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Fri May 31, 2019, 10:56 PM

I TRUST Speaker Pelosi!!

Look, my instinct is impeach NOW too, but guess what ... I am also aware that the Speaker is so much smarter than I am when it comes to making political decisions, and frankly, I think all of us owe her the same.

When the time has come for impeachment to proceed, she will let us know. If you think you know more about how to play this game than our Speaker, then you are not helping, respectfully.

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malchickiwick May 2019 OP
Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #1
malchickiwick May 2019 #3
Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #49
samnsara Jun 2019 #52
ego_nation Jun 2019 #80
krawhitham Jun 2019 #63
Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #64
Hortensis Jun 2019 #81
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Hortensis Jun 2019 #84
Nuggets Jun 2019 #67
TCJ70 Jun 2019 #73
Nuggets Jun 2019 #74
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #1)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:08 PM

3. So you DON'T trust our Speaker?

Inquiring minds, etc.

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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:31 AM

49. She's savvy, all right. But she's not impartial regarding impeachment.

She is against impeaching any President, as a general rule, since she thinks it's divisive and doesn't promote "unity."

So she's not coming from an impartial viewpoint, or from the viewpoint of holding a President accountable.

She also thinks that the Senate's likely blocking impeachment might deter any indictment of him after he leaves office.

If it were just her decision, she probably would never decide to impeach. She will have to be convinced to go along with it, by a large number of the House reps. She would go along with it, if it were bipartisan (which it would never be when fascists are in control of the opposing party).

I don't know whether we should or not. But in the end, it does come down to: if they have to the duty to uphold the law, do they do so, knowing it may backfire in the longrun? Or do they not do it, knowing that justice may come in the future...hopefully...maybe?

Pelosi repeated her belief that the president hopes to be impeached, explaining that Republicans in the Senate are "completely in the pocket of Donald Trump" and would likely block the effort.

"He knows itís not a good idea to be impeached, but the silver lining for him is then he believes he would be exonerated by the United States Senate, and thereís a school of thought that says if the Senate acquits you, why bring charges against him in the private sector when heís no longer president?" Pelosi told the ABC host.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/05/31/nancy-pelosi-jimmy-kimmel-trump-impeachment/1298145001/



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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #49)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:39 AM

52. shes holding out for indisputable evidence.. a very good plan i think.

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Response to samnsara (Reply #52)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 09:32 AM

80. There is no such thing as indisputable evidence any more.

Whatever comes out (and already has) Trump will deny and his supporters will fall behind.

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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 11:26 AM

63. no I don't trust her 100% on everything, not a lemming

No politician should every be trusted 100% on everything

And on this issue she is just simply wrong, she thinks it will hurt us in 2020 if we impeach, instead it will hurt us in 2020 if we stand by and do nothing

If the bar for impeachment has not been reached with trump it can never be reached


The American people can tell the different between lying about a blowjob and helping a foreign country steal an election

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #63)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 11:19 PM

64. Very well stated !

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #64)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 10:25 AM

81. Mistaken premise, though. She's not working alone

but as the leader of a very redoubtable team who've been working on this issue since before Trump was sworn in.

We're neither lemmings nor ants.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #81)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 11:07 AM

82. Working on what issue?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #82)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 12:59 PM

84. Oh, every one actually. Like this:

New Yorker: On†Monday, the Supreme Court announced that it would hear†three cases†that seek to determine whether existing federal law bans workplace discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity.

Among L.G.B.T. activists and advocates, one could sense something like a deep intake of breath, of the sort one makes when a fragile object is starting to tumble off a shelf across the room. You know itís going to shatter, you are too far away to try to catch it, and you watch, helplessly, its interminable path to catastrophe.


Very poignant writing. They expect nothing but bad from this Supreme Court as appeals for protection from the wave of renewed legalized persecution in many states continue to arrive.

Really, isn't stopping the Republicans and Trump, protecting ourselves from the growing fascism on the right, about everything? And isn't that all about who wins in 2020?

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #63)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:49 AM

67. If

 

the American people could tell the difference between lying about a blowjob and helping a foreign country steal an election, we wouldnít have Trump in the first place.

And you donít know that sheís wrong. AFAIC youíre simply wrong, and you donít have access to the info she does.

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Response to Nuggets (Reply #67)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 10:05 AM

73. I'll play...

1. The American people did not have access to the information we have now regarding Trumps involvement with Russia. So that can't be considered a factor in his election.

2. You don't know that she's right. You also don't know what she knows or what she has access to. So everyone is only putting their opinions forward. This cannot be used as a way to dismiss the thoughts and opinions of others.

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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #73)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 07:19 PM

74. I do know she has more access than

 

DUs commenters.

Iíll take her word over anyone on here any day of the week.
Personally Iím sick of arrogant commenters abandoning our leader who said Trump and Republicans want impeachment right now.

Why would they want that?


Are you calling Pelosi a liar?

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Response to Nuggets (Reply #74)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 06:06 AM

75. No. I'm calling her wrong on this one...because I think she is.

You think sheís right. And theyíre both opinions. We can put them forward with our thoughts on why we think that way but itís not arrogant or honorable to think either way. No one knows how this plays out...we can only guess on what the ultimate outcome of impeach or not impeach leads to.

So relax. None of this has to get nasty with accusations flying. Itís a discussion.

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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #75)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 11:17 AM

83. Exactly. I have been called every name in the

book here just because I don't agree

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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #75)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 07:48 PM

86. Who was getting nasty?

 

Not me.
And Iím relaxed thank you. Iím not one pressing for an impeachment that will help Trump get off scott free.
It is not an opinion that she and the 6 committees have more info than you or anyone else on DU for that matter.

She says itís not time she knows better than you. Period.

Starting impeachment hearings more than a year and a half away is silly and the public will tire of it as the media allows the GOP to frame it as a witch-hunt. That is my opinion.
And I stand by it and Pelosi and Schiffís strategy.

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #63)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:53 AM

69. tHere is no evidence of his helping another country

steal the election.

Obstruction at most. As to what will happen in 2020, who books could be written. You haven't supported that statement with anything.

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #63)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 06:18 AM

76. Being a good follower is a vastly under rated skill

Being a good follower means having discipline, and good judgment. Armchair quarterbacking takes no skill and no judgment.

Being a good follower is not synonymous with being a lemming. Being a lemming is a complete lack of judgment and following a demagogue who triggers your authoritarian tendencies. Being a good follower means choosing a good leader and knowing that your solid support can make your leader great. Being a good follower doesn't mean you agree with everything your leader does because that is an irrational and impossible goal.

Being a good follower means choosing your battles strategically and wisely.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 01:29 AM

40. agreed

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:04 PM

2. Did you know that some authoritarian followers are Democrats?

It's true, though Republicans in that category tend to be more so.

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #2)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:10 PM

4. What, what, are you calling our Speaker an authoritarian??

Because if so, check yourself, please.

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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #4)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:31 PM

22. Not at all.

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #22)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:32 PM

23. Good, thanks for clarifying!

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:56 AM

70. We could at least listen to the experienced and savvy person first

before calling people "authoritarian followers." This is merely suggesting that her experience and acumen be consulted, not in the least saying that we should automatically agree with her due to her "position of authority." (I'm wondering how much authority a Speaker has - they represent their district, not rule it, and lead the House, which, if they agree with her position, does not make them authoritarian followers).

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:11 PM

5. I trust no one... without results

Till I see that MF in chains, I will withhold my judgement.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #5)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:15 PM

6. So you know better than somebody who's been at this game since 1987? C'mon!

Nancy has more political acumen in her little finger than all the rest of us combined. I suggest following her lead.

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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #6)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:18 PM

9. Thank you!

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #9)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:22 PM

13. You are welcome, and big ups to everyone else who trusts our Speaker in these times!

I appreciate your support.

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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #6)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:21 PM

12. People on the other side of the aisle use that same ploy

... because the Mango Molester has been a stable genius for so long. Like I said--I'm waiting for results. Till then, I have no opinion either way.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #12)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:25 PM

15. Whoa. Wait. So you are saying it's a ploy? WTF is a ploy here?

Simply state: You feel like you are smarter than the Speaker or not. It really is not more complicated than that.

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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #15)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:42 PM

28. That's not the question

The Original Question was "do you trust Speaker Pelosi?"

My answer remains the same.

I shook hands with Nixon in '71, and I was not impressed by him. Later, that was proven true. I am still a skeptic today. Without results, words are empty.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #28)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:49 PM

32. So, I'm sorry that your hand was besmirched by a criminal president, but ...

Has Speaker Pelosi done anything for you to equate her to a Nixon? Let me answer for you: No, and quite the contrary.

Skepticism is all well and good, but the current formulation is skepticism of democracy, versus the embrace thereof. I suggest you shit or get off the pot at this juncture; with all due respect, this ain't the Seventies no more, alas.

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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #32)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:43 AM

55. Are you aware she let Bush off the hook by taking impeachment off the table?

I think that's a big reason people are skeptical here - her proven track record of letting criminal puke presidents skate.

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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #6)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:49 PM

31. Indeed she does!

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #31)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:52 PM

34. Plus 1000. Thanks!

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:18 PM

7. +1

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #7)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:28 PM

19. And plus umpteen for you. Thanks!

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:18 PM

8. I trust her

and I especially admire how she handles Trump. But Ö sometimes Ö some of the things she says gives me pause.

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Response to trev (Reply #8)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:27 PM

18. She's smarter than I am when it come to politics. That is not hard for me to admit.

Thanks for your input

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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #18)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:32 PM

24. Well, there's certainly no question of her skills.

And I think I fall into the category of those who want a good, solid case. Get as much evidence of Trump's crimes before the public as possible. I also think we should bring up the issue of his mental instability.

Maybe when the Senate shirks its duty it'll change some people's minds.

Maybe.

back.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:21 PM

10. I'm with Nancy

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #10)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:26 PM

17. Thanks to you. me too! n/t

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:21 PM

11. I trust no politician. I trust one person...my wife.

Trust needs to be earned.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #11)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:26 PM

16. And Speaker Pelosi, IMO, has earned that, and then some, no text.

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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 07:46 AM

46. That is fan- think, cult if personality stuff. Not the way I think.

I can support, agree, disagree ..but trust is a special word to not be used lightly.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:23 PM

14. Most of us trust her. I think we are all just sick to death of waiting

The Mueller report was supposed to be it. We waited two years almost while drumpf ripped the country to shreds. That turned out be rather incomplete and left the Dems off guard I think, feeling they needed to complete the investigation themselves. So we are stuck in this legal purgatory while drumpf contests EVERYTHING.

Weíll get there. But I kind of want the fire department to show up before there is nothing left but ash.

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Response to Takket (Reply #14)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:30 PM

20. Honestly, you completely articulate my feelings...I want to impeach, but...

I know she is smarter than I am when it comes to such matters. Simple as that for me.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:31 PM

21. One can trust Pelosi but disagree with her and be a partisan Democrat.

Did Pelosi make the correct decisions regards impeachment and GWB and Cheney?

Nancy Pelosi is in her own bubble.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #21)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:35 PM

25. And you, I presume, are bubble-free?

C'mon man. She has been at this game for a long time. Do you really think you have a better handle on the political pulse of this nation than she does? I mean ... Please?

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Response to malchickiwick (Reply #25)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:47 PM

30. Excellent question

I had a similar question when I heard Michelle Goldberg say tonight that the Democratic leadership was "out of touch with the American people."

"But you, a NY Times opinion columnist who, when you're not sitting at a computer writing about what you think, you're hanging out in cable news green rooms with other columnists telling each other what you think or sitting in television studios talking into a camera about what you think, have a better handle on what the American people think and feel and want than the people they elect to represent them?"

Really?

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #30)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:50 PM

33. Excellent! Thanks to you!

That really captures quite a bit of what I was trying to impart.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #30)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:40 AM

53. I Call It The Dinner Party Talk

drinks, a good meal, them leaning back in their chairs pontificating.

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Response to Me. (Reply #53)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:52 AM

57. Precisely

And then on Monday morning, they go back to the studio, get made up and mic'ed, look into the camera and say, "Well, Joe, I've been talking with lots of people about this and they say..."

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #57)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 10:04 AM

58. People From Across The Country

After all, very few of them are from DC

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Response to Me. (Reply #58)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 10:05 AM

59. Bingo!

Because they have their fingers on the pulse of "real America."

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #21)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:45 PM

29. I would agree with you, but

Obama made the same mistake.

Our current situation is different than in 2008. Bush et al were--IMO--guilty of war crimes, but they were not actively tearing down our constitutional and legal architecture. Bush did not vilify Muslims, but terrorists. The administration took upon themselves war authority (without Congress declaring a war, but Congress never does anymore, anyway) based on the War Powers Act of 1973, and used terrorism as the bogeyman to scare people into letting them do it. But that authority, in itself, was not illegal. I believe it would have been difficult to prosecute Bush and Cheney, even though I dearly wanted to see them led out of the WH in chains.

I hate to say all that. But it's how I see things.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:37 PM

26. +1000

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Response to RelativelyJones (Reply #26)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:41 PM

27. Thanks for the support!!

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 12:22 AM

35. There is no doubt.

That she has the politics down....

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 12:38 AM

36. Yes, I back Nancy

too...

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 12:56 AM

37. Your thread is provocative, yet you are also exploiting the DU TOS. Let me explain:

While you are asserting Pelosi's "political acumen", and verbally persuading others to think your way, you really can't expect posters to get into any kind of oppositional discussion with you, because doing so will activate the TOS for political discussions: there will be no arguments that can be interpreted as providing criticism of Democratic Party politicians/leaders. I or others may have a difference of opinion about Pelosi, but the TOS prevents anyone from discussing in detail, the reasons to oppose or disagree with your point of view.

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #37)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 01:23 AM

39. And can I add, could you and your ilk please quit mansplainin' impeachment

to our Speaker. She's only infinitely more politically savvy than you will ever be.

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #37)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 04:25 AM

44. Tree shaking

 

To see what falls into traps.

Throw in an appeal to authority or two, et voila!

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #37)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:36 AM

66. I've criticized Democratic leaders before on here. Never personally, but on the issues, you bet.

If I disagree, I will speak up. The thing is, most of the time the absolute worst Dem position is better by a long-shot policy-wise than the best Republican position. Look at the giant tax cut for corporations and billionaires as an example. This is absolutely masterful in terms of policies that make up the Republican long game. But it totally sucks, is the very epitome of fiscal irresponsibility and demonstrably showed, once again, how 'trickle-down' economics does not work. That's just a lie.

See what I mean?

Now, I've seen various Dems tout the position of a middle class tax cut. Now, I disagree with that policy on its face unless it ALSO involves a repeal of the Republican tax cut, and a substantial raise of taxes on corporations and high earners, as well as some tax on capital gains. Tax-wise, lifting the cap on the SS payroll tax would also go a long way toward keeping that program solvent, and a minor tax on each Wall Street trade (they have so-called 'arbitrage 'bots' that will pull the trigger on massive stock trades with just a tenth of a point movement). Tax those transactions and we'll substantially increase government revenue for programs Americans actually need.

You gotta talk policy. Never ad-hominem.

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #37)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:57 AM

71. No, you could argue impeachment should be undertaken right now

without bashing Pelosi, calling her a coward, and so on.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 01:47 AM

41. +1000

I support Speaker Pelosi.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 02:55 AM

42. She's a political sophisticate in ways hard to match. nt

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 03:26 AM

43. It's not our job to just trust our representatives

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #43)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 10:11 AM

60. +1

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #43)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:59 AM

72. It is a mix

At some point, we don't have enough time in our lives to supervise them. We have to leave it to them to some point. That does not mean automatically agree with everything. But when it comes to strategies, we don't have the knowledge to really seriously bash her for her positions. The mainstream media won't go into her reasons, but that information is likely available with some research.

At some point, you have to trust our doctor for instance. (And in this instance, you can't just find another Speaker who you trust). You can question a professional, like doctor or lawyer, and they can explain things, but at some point, you have to have the operation even though you don't have the ability to supervise the doctor during it.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 04:34 AM

45. Independent thinking is a good thing.

No one is right 100% of the time, not even those Democrats we admire and respect the most. I believe not holding Bush and Cheney accountable was a mistake, and I believe not starting impeachment proceedings against Trump is an even bigger mistake. Just my opinion.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:15 AM

47. Congress returns from Memorial Day break next week

Dem members have been back in their home districts and hearing from constituents in townhalls and other venues. I think House members are learning that people are not only getting fed up with Trump's antics, but they can see the obstruction right before their own eyes what with Trump/WH refusing to submit to any oversight at all. It's just lawless, something Americans really do not like.

The ground is shifting pretty quickly regarding impeachment. This isn't Clinton where impeachment revolved around lying about a blow job. Americans knew that was entirely political and why Clinton's approval stayed steady before, during and after. Look at how much Mueller speaking for 10 minutes changed the conversation. Imagine what live televised hearings with witness testimony will do.

Pelosi will take the temperature of her caucus when they return to Washington. I won't be surprised if her stance changes. Dems' continuing refrain should be "no one is above the law, not even the president". That is something Americans believe and easily understand.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:20 AM

48. You do know that she's against impeachment of any President, generally?

So she's not coming from an impartial viewpoint. She thinks impeaching any President is divisive and doesn't promote the "unity" she wants.

So she's coming from that viewpoint. She will naturally not be inclined to impeach any President, no matter what. Although she might vote for an impeachment. That's two different things.

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Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:31 AM

50. i'm hoping she's pulling a Gandalf with caucus impeachment support

letting a few commit early, get more and more to sign on as investigations continue and evidence mounts. then, when something new and huge drops or the Republican primary commits to Trump/Pence for 2020, push forward full steam with the impeachment.

that way, the media has an easily-covered horse race to latch onto where each committee's investigation is seen to have an impact on the overall situation, Democrats don't look like they're stupidly partisan zealots bent solely on impeaching Trump, and the public winds up with a compelling narrative which at least makes things slightly uncomfortable for Darth McConnell's nasty senate majority.

similar to Gandalf's dwarf-introduction methods from The Hobbit (book, not movie)

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:38 AM

51. i do too.. i want tangible evidence...recordings..emails..whatever it takes..

..tjhat we can rub the GOP noses in and then ask if they STILL support this crook.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:43 AM

54. I trust her also.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:48 AM

56. If the plan is to keep impeachment off the table, period,

then I vehemently disagree and hope that someone gets through to her, and quickly.

I'm no Einstein, but I'm smart enough to know that we're all human and that everyone makes mistakes from time to time.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 10:27 AM

61. whatever the case,

one might make their point without continually emphasizing how dumb we all are.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 10:53 AM

62. Whatever

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Sun Jun 2, 2019, 08:58 AM

65. I also trust Speaker Pelosi

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Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:52 AM

68. She is smart and knows it all inside and out

It is too easy to second guess her on the internet.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 06:33 AM

77. I am for impeachment and I stand with Nancy

I think she knows the best way to do this.

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Thu Jun 6, 2019, 06:48 AM

78. Speaker Polosi

Knows a lot of things we don't, and she has a very good record at winning these battles, so I think she knows better what will , and what won't work to win , and be successful. I also think they know a lot of things are close to becoming exposed against trump and many others, and will raise the numbers for impeachment to get the win too, so I do trust her judgement more than others do.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 09:13 AM

79. Thank you - Thank you very much! (Elvis line)

"I Trust Speaker Pelosi" should be etched in stone.

She is my favorite democrat and much smarter than I am.

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Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 01:03 PM

85. I think everybody knows that impeachment is inevitable but not everybody can say it. nt

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