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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShould Speaker Pelosi call the vote this week?
In order to launch an official impeachment inquiry, the House must pass a resolution by a simple majority authorizing a committee (most likely but.not necessarily the Judiciary Committee) to begin an inquiry.
Right now only approximately 54 Members have come out in support of an inquiry. Even if that number is only half of the number of Members who actually support and would vote for opening an inquiry now, it is well short of the 218 votes needed to carry the resolution.
Knowing that, do people think that Speaker Pelosi should call a vote asap (as in this week) to authorize an impeachment inquiry, even though the measure would be voted down overwhelmingly - probably by more than 3 to 1 - by the full House?
Sneederbunk
(14,289 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,368 posts)has come out in favor of impeachment right now. Since when do we call votes under those circumstances?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,368 posts)pnwmom
(108,973 posts)ancianita
(36,017 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 3, 2019, 08:16 AM - Edit history (1)
The rest of the public will poll higher as they continue.
We'll know by reps' votes who is country over job.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
MiniMe
(21,714 posts)Impeachment is not the first step, investigation and hearings are. If you find enough in the hearings and investigations, the next step is formal impeachment hearings.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)As much as I'd like to get this over with as soon as possible -- If it's not going to pass without twisting arms, don't vote on it.
Think poster above is correct that it would make some Democrats uncomfortable, at this point.
Pretty soon, we have to decide to do it or move on. Don't think it's wise to go on like this into 2020.
sheshe2
(83,728 posts)Without the votes it is an exercise in futility and would be shot down in a nanosecond. If she wants to hold a vote in private with Dems to get a feel where they stand after their recess and having spoken to their constituents? That would be fine with me.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)sheshe2
(83,728 posts)I know she is doing everything possible. As she said the other day, the case needs to be ironclad.
Thanks so much for all your informative posts.. Starfish.
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sheshe2
(83,728 posts)That not only gives the author credit for their work, it also gives readers here the chance to read the context of hand picked quotes.
Thank you in advance and welcome to DU.
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George II
(67,782 posts)sheshe2
(83,728 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Otherwise, you would not have posted what you did.
Gothmog
(145,086 posts)There's no point until the subpoena issue and witnesses refusing to show up is settled
malaise
(268,898 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,568 posts)But yes, she should hold a vote to open an inquiry soon. If she's a true leader who puts country before party, she will spend the next month whipping the votes. Regardless of the vote count, they should vote, so the people can separate the courageous from the cowards, and then set plans in motion to primary the cowards with candidates who will defend the Constitution with every ounce of power in the Legislative Branch.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)It's for the stragglers, once the majority is much closer to being onboard. We at least need to have the majority of Democrats , and we're not even close to that yet.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)That's not leadership and it's not effective. It's not a Speaker's job to try to publicly humiliate or destroy the political futures of Members who don't toe the line for her. It's her job to try to persuade them to vote the way she wants. The tactic you're suggesting will only guarantee that you'll never see an impeachment of this president.
Not to mention the fact that, if a Member is against impeachment because his or her constituents aren't for it, good luck trying to primary them as punishment for responding to the will of their district.
Fortunately, Pelosi wouldn't even think of doing that - and neither would anyone else in her position.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,568 posts)The Constitution can't wait- the Executive branch just defied a direct court order from the Judicial branch- if that doesn't create majority support for opening an impeachment inquiry (and an impeachment of Barr), then the stragglers should be exposed for the cowards they are, and their careers should be destroyed.
TwilightZone
(25,456 posts)No, they shouldn't vote if they know the votes aren't there, unless you want to ensure that the process dies a quick death.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,568 posts)mcar
(42,299 posts)So she won't call it. She is too intelligent and canny to let people who don't know what they are talking about control her.
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)that would make the best use of time as well as giving all the practice into how to strategize it