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srobertss

(261 posts)
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 05:08 PM Jun 2019

Im settling down on the impeachment question

after listening to this podcast from Skullduggery: https://www.yahoo.com/news/skullduggery-tv-sex-spies-bank-210648992.html

Their point of view is that Mueller probably wasn’t making an impeachment referral, he was simply wrapping up his work and wanted to clarify what is in the report. He certainly didn’t rebuke Barr. Then they delve into what the Deutsche Bank records are likely to reveal. They interview the NYT reporter, David Enrich, who did the story on suspicious transactions that weren’t reported, and he said that a month ago he would have guessed there was a 15% chance that the bank records would reveal criminal money laundering and that it’s up to about 30% since his story on the unreported suspicious transactions.

That really lowered my expectations for a big reveal. What we have is obstruction and emoluments, which it seems like most people don’t seem to care about anymore. We need to have lots of investigations of his criminality, for sure, and I’m hoping we’ll discover something shameful in his tax returns, but I’m starting to understand Nancy Pelosi’s caution. I would like to first see an underlying crime that he was trying to cover up. When you compare this to Nixon’s impeachment, he was caught covering up a burglary. Everyone knows that burglary is wrong. What do we have so far in Trumps case? Violating the checks and balances of a very delicate democracy. A huge chunk of the public don’t even understand what that means.

When I think of the financial powers and what they want, they love those tax cuts, but must know they’re not sustainable unless Republicans can gain enough sway, perhaps retake the House, to begin whittling away at government spending that helps people. These financial powers have a huge control of the narrative. Until they start to feel that Trump is impinging on their world, it’s going to be really hard to shift the narrative. But in the meantime they’re betting on this rogue, messianic clown who keeps a steady portion of the electorate under his control.

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Im settling down on the impeachment question (Original Post) srobertss Jun 2019 OP
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I think there's actually a lot of collusion and obstruction srobertss Jun 2019 #2
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srobertss

(261 posts)
2. I think there's actually a lot of collusion and obstruction
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 07:05 PM
Jun 2019

I think he was aiming for a Trump Tower Moscow, not the presidency, and there was a huge amount of quid pro quo going on towards that end. Not to mention they probably have a lot of compromising info on him. I just don’t think the majority of people will care unless there’s an easily understandable crime to explain the obstruction.

Look at the farmers. He’s ruining them and they’re still largely on board.

And regarding getting more access to documents, I’ve heard both sides of the argument regarding whether impeachment would bring that about. It’s untried, so it’s a question mark. It makes sense to me that the courts would view it that way, but it is untried.

I would like to see an impeachment for ideological reasons, because I do believe our democracy is in danger. We need to make that as plain as we possibly can. I’m just not sure that it will penetrate the fog engendered by Trump, Republicans, and the financial powers. Not unless the financial powers start to perceive him as a threat.

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