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I guess I have been out of touch a bit, what is Trump trying to do with the NHS? (Original Post) redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 OP
Destroy it C_U_L8R Jun 2019 #1
Privatize it RedParrot Jun 2019 #2
The gall of this pig trying to inject his privatization crap into a foreign... brush Jun 2019 #5
He's overstepping is what he's doing. MineralMan Jun 2019 #3
I think so, too. What he said will backfire, bigly. Yuuuuge mistake. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #4
Brits won't deliver NHS in Orange Maggot hands... HipChick Jun 2019 #8
Why are we even getting involved with this? smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #6
Cuz he thinks he's Putin. LakeArenal Jun 2019 #10
Unlike the UK, our health care system is our... Anon-C Jun 2019 #7
Does anyone have an estimate Timmygoat Jun 2019 #9
Not just Trump, it's been going on for a while... Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #11
It would give US healthcare firms and investors continued access to NHS contracts. Hoyt Jun 2019 #12

brush

(53,764 posts)
5. The gall of this pig trying to inject his privatization crap into a foreign...
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 12:24 PM
Jun 2019

ally's healthcare system in order to benefit from healthcare stocks he or repug supporters own.

As Auntie Maxine said, he should just resign with his ridiculous self.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
3. He's overstepping is what he's doing.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 12:21 PM
Jun 2019

He's trying to make NHS part of a trade deal with the UK. They get rid of it and the deal's on.

Ain't happening, Donwald. Not a chance.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
8. Brits won't deliver NHS in Orange Maggot hands...
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 12:29 PM
Jun 2019

Strikes, protests will be unparalleled...This should be interesting though..

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. Why are we even getting involved with this?
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 12:25 PM
Jun 2019

I can't believe there would be anyone except the very rich in the UK that would be in favor of his meddling with their health care.

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
9. Does anyone have an estimate
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jun 2019

It looks like Trump took the whole family, the White House staff etc to the UK, they will have stayed at the most expensive hotel
that London has to offer, and as far of the family clothes, all those designer gowns etc. Are we - the taxpayers on the hook for this?

Wounded Bear

(58,634 posts)
11. Not just Trump, it's been going on for a while...
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 01:20 PM
Jun 2019

wealthy Americans have been trying to crowbar into the British medical system and privatize it for profit for a few years now.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. It would give US healthcare firms and investors continued access to NHS contracts.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 01:30 PM
Jun 2019

For a number of years US-based hospital companies -- like those that build and manage hospitals, drug rehab, and other facilities -- have been working in the UK. Investors have also invested in UK companies.

It's become a political issue because people fear continued privatization of the NHS will increase costs and lessen quality. On the other side, the NHS -- through government funding -- has not been able to keep up with demand for healthcare resulting in long waits and people going without care.

It appears the UK is committed to keeping care free at the point of service to patients, but there is the fear privatization might change that down the road. So the government is trying to balance the need for investment in facilities, clinics, etc., with keeping care free at point of service.

Seems to me, while it's definitely desirable to keep the NHS pure, if it's not working and US or other companies can provide needed services at NHS set prices, it's probably beneficial. That assumes, the patients still get "free" care, NHS costs don't increase above where they would be otherwise, NHS can control companies (whether US, UK, Germany, . . . . . .) lobbying efforts to change the system, etc. That's a critical assumption.

In any event, this is not new. I think US hospital management firms have been in the UK since at least 2006.

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