Hope Hicks To Turn Over Some Documents

[Me.]

Hope Hicks agrees to give House Democrats some documents after White House tells her not to comply with subpoena

“• Former White House staffers Hope Hicks and Annie Donaldson have been instructed by the White House not to comply with the House Judiciary Committee’s subpoenas to turn over documents related to their time in President Donald Trump’s administration.

• But former White House communications director Hope Hicks says she will still hand over documents related to Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, according to the House Judiciary Committee.”


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/04/white-house-tells-ex-staffers-not-to-comply-with-democrats-subpoenas.html

[Cuthbert Allgood]

1. Well, he can't claim executive privilege when he wasn't the executive.

So she kind of has to on those. Though he hasn't really claimed privilege on the others but just said it's a possible reason.

[redstatebluegirl]

2. That is surprising since she was his "other daughter".

[lunatica]

6. She probably knows him well enough to also know

that if she or anyone else actually get in legal trouble he won’t lift a finger to help them, other than to tell them to get their own lawyer.

He would be fine if everyone of his staff ended up in contempt of Congress and thrown in jail. He expects that kind of loyalty, but he has a double standard. He expects them to go to jail for him too, and will do nothing to help them.

Well if that’s what it takes...

[Me.]

18. Exactly

and he certainly won't cover her legal bills if held in contempt.

[kimbutgar]

3. She'd have a hard time in jail on her first day

I imagine her looks don’t hold up after a month.

[maxsolomon]

13. What does that mean? Her looks won't "hold up"?

Does anyone have an easy time in jail the 1st day?

[kimbutgar]

17. I've seen pictures of people on day 1 and then day 30

Between terrible food, lack of sleep and harassment it wears on a pretty girl like Hope. But you know she wears quite a bit of make up?

[maxsolomon]

23. I noticed that the 1st time I saw her picture.

I thought you meant like she'll turn into a "Faces of Meth" post or something. She'll still be pretty when she gets out, at least nothing some expensive dermo treatments can't fix, courtesy of Trump Tower Spa...

[vlyons]

4. Good for her

Perhaps she has figured out that Trump is essentially not worth the bother to defend, and certainly not worth the consequences of defending. If she is smart, she will consider that the Trump chapter of her life as over.

[nykym]

5. Just curious

So what would happen if someone turns over documents when the white house says not to?

[lunatica]

7. Very good question.

I wonder how far they’ll go to ruin their lives.

[StarfishSaver]

9. The WH probably has no legal recourse

If the documents have been subpoenaed, the custodian is legally obligated to turn them over. If the White House believes they are protected by some kind of privilege, they need to invoke it and give specific reasons. But they have no legal right to just give a blanket "order" not to turn over any documents.

Trump's previous practice in private life was to threaten to sue people into oblivion, which was a real disincentive - but, ironically, now that he's the all-powerful Oz, he no longer has that kind of authority. If he tried to sue someone over this - either officially or in his private capacity - the case would immediately get thrown out of court on a 12(b)(6) motion for failure to state a claim since he has no legal standing to bring such a suit in this instance.

That's my take. I'd be curious to see what other lawyers on the board think.

[Me.]

10. Your Experience/Expertise

is always welcome

[ProudLib72]

8. Is one of these "documents" a blue dress?

Asking for a concerned friend...

[durablend]

20. We need a pee tape

[kentuck]

11. Wow!

That's a gutsy move, compared to rest of them.

[triron]

12. Why 'some'?

[maxsolomon]

14. This one would lead to conviction in the Senate, so no

this one wouldn't, so yes

[StarfishSaver]

15. Perhaps because there is no question that the 2016 campaign materials have no executive

privilege protection, but some of the White House documents might. She can easily turn over the campaign materials without violating a privilege but may have been advised not to turn over the WH documents just yet until any executive privilege issue is sorted out.

[Me.]

16. And Which Ones?

Inquiring minds......

[shockey80]

19. I believe these are the same documents she turned over before.

We need people to testify in open hearings. Everything else is bullshit.

[Me.]

21. Good

Then those would be about the lie they cobbled together, when they were all on AF1, regarding the Russian meeting.

[shockey80]

22. I hope so.

[shockey80]

24. Is this something else that gives us hope and then turns out to be nothing.

I have seen this movie to many times. When she sits down under oath and testifies then we will have something.

[Blue Owl]

25. Steamer operation instructions

For the next lucky staffer...

[Deb]

26. Exactly what did people sign away in that loyalty oath?

Maybe we will get to see a mass contempt arrest leaving one on the island.

[Pachamama]

27. Selective Obstruction of Justice?

When is the Congress going to take hard action? When are they going to impeach?