What to do about Trump's tailoring? We asked a tailor.

[brooklynite]

Washington Post

President Trump is not someone who hides his discomfort well. That comes through in his tweets, obviously, with his disdain or frustrations often only thinly veiled. At times, too, it comes through in his physical presentation, with Trump looking agitated or out of sorts.

That was the case Monday evening, when the president and first lady joined Queen Elizabeth II and her family for a formal dinner at Buckingham Palace. Photos show a sullen-looking Trump standing next to the queen, hands at his side, a frown on his face. He looks uncomfortable, and one would be forgiven for assuming that he was.

Photos of that meeting also made the rounds on social media for another reason: Trump’s tuxedo didn’t quite appear to fit as one might expect. Charles, Prince of Wales, was similarly attired, in a tuxedo that appeared to be proportional. Trump’s, on the other hand, appeared to have some sort of apron, a splash of white fabric that didn’t quite seem to work. Bette Midler recommended the president fire his tailor.

It was one of several recent sartorial questions about the president that have bounced around the Internet. In an effort to understand what Trump’s doing — and what he’s doing wrong — we turned to Ezra Lizio-Katzen, owner of the Washington menswear boutique Ezra Paul. Lizio-Katzen has, in the past, written about Trump’s fashion choices, so he seemed like a natural fit to provide insight into the president’s attire.

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“My advice would be go on a diet, honestly,” he said. “It’s like Chris Christie. I can’t make the suit look good on Chris Christie, either.”

[Aristus]

1. Trump should do what I do.

I have a belly that's hard to get rid of due to my affinity for alcohol.

I just do tons of curls and chest presses. Makes my shoulders and chest bigger than my belly.

But then, that would mean exercising, which Trump won't do. So, there's that...

[brooklynite]

2. I stopped wearing tuxes...

If I go to a gala and my check has cleared, I'll wear what I want.

[Aristus]

6. I own two tuxes, one black and one gray.

And four dinner jackets, including a custom-fitted brocade jacket. I'm a bit of a clothes-horse. If one can't be good-looking, one should be well-dressed.

[appalachiablue]

3. Pres. William Howard Taft did it, diet. A 6', 300lber, he lost 30 lbs.

and regained it but at least he recognized the problem and tried to change. At a certain point, bigger and bigger clothes, a larger wardrobe and expensive tailoring become burdensome like the excess weight, for anyone.

Taft was mocked in the press and more; especially about stair rails he used in the White House to pull himself up, and a special bathtub he had made that could fit four men.

https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/15/health/president-taft-diet-time/index.html

[Recursion]

4. I'm more overweight than Trump. My suits look good

Tailors' job is to make any body shape look good in their clothing. That's what they do.

When I go for a fitting, I let the tailor measure me. And I take the tailor's advice on color, patterns, accessories, etc. And so my suits look good.

What Trump pretty clearly did was submit a few completely fake measurements, freak out when he tried it on, and then order a different waistcoat hoping that would fix the problem. It didn't.

[Hortensis]

13. Looks like. I wouldn't hire that Ezra guy.

Wouldn't need a tailor given to snarky gossip, and what constitutes looking good is very different for statesmen and GQ models.

[Demovictory9]

5. more from the article

2 sizes too big! That's huge!



“Because he’s wearing a suit size probably two sizes, at least, too big for him in order to not make it look like he’s got a big stomach and instead make it look like he’s just a big guy,” he explained, “the pants that come with that suit are likely too big for him, especially if he wears the pants below his stomach.”

“That’s why they’re baggy like that. When you make a suit, everything’s extrapolated. So if they grow it, the pants keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger,” he added. The suit designers naturally assume someone wearing a bigger suit jacket also has much bigger legs. In this case, Trump doesn’t.

[Butterflylady]

7. That's just pitiful.

I think that's why the ties are long. If the eye follows the tie you don't notice the girth, the jacket always open distracts from the girth.

[USALiberal]

8. Why does this matter at all? Michael Moore bother you too? Grade school shit. nt

[hunter]

11. Trump is supposed to be representing all of us, or at the very least, the institution of POTUS.

It's not like he can't afford a tailor, nor is he taking a stand against useless formality.

I can't tell you how many times I've received the "representing" lecture from employers and family.

When I'm representing myself I'll dress however the hell I want.

That's Trump's problem. In his mind he ONLY represents himself, never anyone else.

[ProudLib72]

9. Let me spell it out: H A M B E R D E R

[riversedge]

10. "The vest, Lizio-Katzen said, is supposed to be shorter than the front of the tailcoat."...

Trumps big belly is popping out of his vest.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/06/04/what-do-about-trumps-tailoring-we-asked-tailor/?utm_term=.eb3c7156b5ce

.......................So what was the problem?

The vest, Lizio-Katzen said, is supposed to be shorter than the front of the tailcoat.

“People wear their pants much lower than they used to,” he said. “So even though a vest should be a certain length, if you wear your pants too low then you get an unsightly gap between the pants and the bottom of the vest where your shirt shows.”

With a regular suit, that’s not necessarily a problem because the jacket will cover the bottom of the vest. With a tailcoat, though, the front is cut shorter. The choice, then, is either a too-long vest or a visible shirt. That said, Lizio-Katzen said that this case appeared to be “exceptional” given that several inches of Trump’s vest is showing. (The jacket, he said, was properly tailored.)

[MrScorpio]

12. Decent dressmakers and tailors don't want anything to do with the Trumps...

If they fire those who dare to dress them, who would be left?

[lady lib]

14. It wasn't just 45.

The whole family looked like they raided the wardrobe department from "The Beverly Hillbillies."