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Demovictory9

(32,445 posts)
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:28 PM Jun 2019

Trump suggested he wants British health system included in trade talks

Instead, Trump may have inadvertently played into some of Britons’ worst fears about their post-Brexit future when he suggested that Britain’s National Health Service (NHS) could be a part of a U.S.-Britain trade deal.

“When you’re dealing on trade, everything is on the table — so NHS or anything else, and a lot more than that,” the president said when asked about the position of Britain’s health system in a trade deal. “Everything will be on the table, absolutely.”

Trump’s vague answer to the question may suggest he hadn’t given the idea much thought. However, British news outlets have been keeping an eye on the issue in recent weeks.

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Now there are fears that a trade deal with the United States could open up the NHS to profit-driven U.S. business interests — and, with it, the creeping possibility of privatization.

“I think the entire economy, in a trade deal, all things that are traded would be on the table,” Woody Johnson, U.S. ambassador to Britain, said during an interview with the BBC on Sunday.

Would that mean health care? “I would think so,” Johnson responded.

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Founded in 1948, it is the largest single-payer health system in the world and primarily funded by the British government.

The behemoth system is simultaneously one of the most lauded and derided parts of British life. Polls have shown that the NHS is more cherished than the monarchy or the British army but also that many Britons are dissatisfied with the service and worried about its future.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/06/04/brits-are-fiercely-protective-their-health-care-system-trump-suggested-he-wants-it-included-trade-talks/?utm_term=.0592ddbc33f1

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Trump suggested he wants British health system included in trade talks (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jun 2019 OP
Comfy old age is for losers BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #1
Another GOP move to privatize the world. trev Jun 2019 #2
Germany and the UK have two different systems. Aristus Jun 2019 #4
That makes sense. trev Jun 2019 #5
Sure. Aristus Jun 2019 #7
I'll look into them. trev Jun 2019 #10
Once Brexit hits, Trump will try to put Britain under his thumb. Scotland will leave the UK. Enjoy. TheBlackAdder Jun 2019 #3
To answer the question, *NO* Blue_Tires Jun 2019 #6
American companies have been building and managing healthcare facilities in U.K. for years. Hoyt Jun 2019 #8
Fucking ghoul. Seriously a ghoul. He had to be the "Eric Trump" of his syblings. marble falls Jun 2019 #9
I'm sure thousands of Brits are clamoring to go bankrupt for healthcare Skittles Jun 2019 #11

trev

(1,480 posts)
2. Another GOP move to privatize the world.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:37 PM
Jun 2019

Hopefully the Brits will fight this vehemently.

I don't know about their particular system, but the national German system works very, very well. My neighbors in Stuttgart loved it (they were in their 70s), and I used it myself on several occasions. Excellent care, cost me nothing. The US military used to refer soldiers to it for some health conditions.

Aristus

(66,310 posts)
4. Germany and the UK have two different systems.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:42 PM
Jun 2019

Germany uses the Bismark system, instituted by the Iron Chancellor himself. It is a system of public and private clinics, hospitals, and specialty care providers all accessible by German citizens for health care. And the government pays the bills. It's the system I think would work best here in the US.

The UK uses the Beveridge system, which is closer to what we think of as socialized medicine. The clinics, hospitals, doctors, nurses, and allied health personnel are all government-owned or employed. It's a true system of 'government health care'. The UK does have private insurance companies and private medical facilities for rich people who want to feel special. But everyone gets the same basic level of health care.

trev

(1,480 posts)
5. That makes sense.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:48 PM
Jun 2019

I did visit a private practitioner once (a dermatologist), but most of my experience was with the hospitals.

Thanks for the info.

Aristus

(66,310 posts)
7. Sure.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:51 PM
Jun 2019

There are several excellent books out there that detail the concept of national health care/insurance. The pros and cons, as well as the various systems out there, which all tend to be one form or another of the two basic systems I mentioned above.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
6. To answer the question, *NO*
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:50 PM
Jun 2019

Trump *doesn't* know how Brexit works...

Trump *doesn't* know how the NHS works...

Trump *doesn't* know how NATO works...

Trump *doesn't* know how trade deals work...

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. American companies have been building and managing healthcare facilities in U.K. for years.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:54 PM
Jun 2019

Other countries do it too. Heck, the Cleveland Clinic, among others, operate clinics in U.K.

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