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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPelosi Wants Trump to Go to Prison. Here's How It Could Happen.
10:43 A.M.
By Jonathan Chait
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has steadfastly refused to open impeachment proceedings against President Trump, but opined in a closed meeting of her party that she wouldnt mind seeing him incarcerated. I dont want to see him impeached, she said. I want to see him in prison. Pelosis comments, reported by Politico, managed to simultaneously offend both Trumps most fervent critics and his supporters. But the scenario she describes is very possible.
The idea that Trump might face criminal charges has felt impossible since Robert Mueller declined to bring additional charges in his final report. But Trump faces several other investigations for crimes that are easier to prove than criminal conspiracy with Russia. It was not long ago that news reports routinely invoked the possibility that Trump could face prosecution after he leaves office, and Muellers belief that he could not charge a sitting president with a crime does not change that. Should he lose reelection, Trump is facing at least five reasonably serious criminal cases:
1. Obstruction of justice. Robert Muellers decision not to formally charge Trump with obstruction of justice leaned heavily on the Department of Justices rule that it cannot charge the president with a crime. But Mueller clearly presented Trumps behavior as criminal, and more than a thousand former federal prosecutors agreed that the acts cited in the report would be prosecuted as obstruction were Trump not president.
Muellers report also noted a President does not have immunity after he leaves office and that part of his task was to preserve the evidence. This opens a very clear avenue for the Department of Justice to charge Trump with obstruction once his term has ended.
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Pelosi Wants Trump to Go to Prison. Here's How It Could Happen. (Original Post)
DonViejo
Jun 2019
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Makes me wonder if Pelosi knows something more than we do, that she can't reveal??? nt
SWBTATTReg
Jun 2019
#1
If you think somebody should be in jail, then surely they should be impeached no?
Blues Heron
Jun 2019
#2
SWBTATTReg
(22,093 posts)1. Makes me wonder if Pelosi knows something more than we do, that she can't reveal??? nt
awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)3. I want to believe that
but I'm afraid of being badly disappointed again.
Blues Heron
(5,931 posts)2. If you think somebody should be in jail, then surely they should be impeached no?
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)5. They should be, yes.
But the how of doing it has a problem...you need the House to file charges and then the Senate holds a trial.
Mcconnell has already said such a trial would be over in 5 minutes, they won't find him guilty.
Justice cannot afford to have him publicly declared not guilty by the Senate.
Pelosi has several options, none of which she is talking about, trump and Barr don't need to know ahead of time, right?
right now Trump et al making headlines for contempt of Congress is getting much more support for his removal from office.
It really needs to have a large Majority of citizens to support getting rid of him. and the higher the polls, the less confidence the Republicans have of ever getting elected again.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)7. ...
sprinkleeninow
(20,235 posts)4. The
*DoJ* charge him following the end of his term? 🤔
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)6. K&R
Gothmog
(145,046 posts)8. Second term or prison term