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Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:28 PM

John Dean/Judiciary hearing starting NOW!!!! tune in


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Reply John Dean/Judiciary hearing starting NOW!!!! tune in (Original post)
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 OP
hlthe2b Jun 2019 #1
Siwsan Jun 2019 #2
hlthe2b Jun 2019 #3
Siwsan Jun 2019 #4
BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #6
EffieBlack Jun 2019 #10
BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #12
olegramps Jun 2019 #43
pnwmom Jun 2019 #5
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Habibi Jun 2019 #8
stuffmatters Jun 2019 #69
elleng Jun 2019 #9
nolabear Jun 2019 #11
elleng Jun 2019 #13
nolabear Jun 2019 #15
elleng Jun 2019 #19
elleng Jun 2019 #33
targetpractice Jun 2019 #14
demmiblue Jun 2019 #16
George II Jun 2019 #36
Baitball Blogger Jun 2019 #17
Skidmore Jun 2019 #18
BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #21
murielm99 Jun 2019 #39
BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #40
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #63
BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #76
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #75
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shanti Jun 2019 #20
mucifer Jun 2019 #25
True Blue American Jun 2019 #52
a kennedy Jun 2019 #22
EleanorR Jun 2019 #23
malaise Jun 2019 #24
Baitball Blogger Jun 2019 #26
phatkatt Jun 2019 #27
EleanorR Jun 2019 #28
shanti Jun 2019 #29
a kennedy Jun 2019 #31
spanone Jun 2019 #32
MontanaMama Jun 2019 #30
BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #34
olegramps Jun 2019 #41
George II Jun 2019 #35
blue neen Jun 2019 #37
George II Jun 2019 #38
malaise Jun 2019 #42
watoos Jun 2019 #44
George II Jun 2019 #46
BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #48
George II Jun 2019 #45
lillypaddle Jun 2019 #47
triron Jun 2019 #65
lillypaddle Jun 2019 #68
blogslut Jun 2019 #49
George II Jun 2019 #50
BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #53
George II Jun 2019 #54
BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #56
SunSeeker Jun 2019 #51
Kaleva Jun 2019 #57
SunSeeker Jun 2019 #61
BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #62
SunSeeker Jun 2019 #64
EffieBlack Jun 2019 #66
SunSeeker Jun 2019 #71
BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #67
SunSeeker Jun 2019 #72
StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #73
SunSeeker Jun 2019 #78
BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #74
watoos Jun 2019 #58
SunSeeker Jun 2019 #60
NJCher Jun 2019 #55
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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:37 PM

1. I just tuned in... Joyce Vance is testifying. Have I missed anyone else?

MSNBC would not leave the helicopter crash (yes, of course, I'm sorry about that but once the initial facts are reported can updates not come through chyron?

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:39 PM

2. John Dean was first

Giving historic perspective.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:39 PM

3. Damn... How was it?

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:40 PM

4. Interesting

He talked about the potential dangling of pardons that happened during Watergate.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:43 PM

6. He was good for his opening statement

He was comfortable in telling his brief story given he was there in the WH and Counsel for a President. And interestingly enough, when Collins, who was 8 years old during Watergate, was excoriating the hearing, the camera switched to Dean and Dean was looking at him with a smirk on his face like someone would look at any 8 year old mouthing off.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:48 PM

10. Dean's expression was priceless, wasn't it?

“You might want to just sit down and be quiet, son.”

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:53 PM

12. Basically!



(ETA, my 44,000th post )

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:22 PM

43. The Republicans are only revealing their contempt for the Constitution and justice.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:43 PM

5. Why was this Heritage guy Malcolm getting a platform?

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:45 PM

7. That was my question but probably something ranking member Collins and the GOP members requested.



He's a smarmy idiot.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:45 PM

8. Called by the Repubs?

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:19 PM

69. Repping the obnoxious, haughty pedantism of Federalist Soc/Heritage Foundation judge factory

Their legal brand of condescension, loopholerism, and faux outrage predictable and delivered.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:47 PM

9. Barbara McQuade on NOW.

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Response to elleng (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:52 PM

11. Did you see that cut to Jim Jordan sneering while she talked?

Really unusual for C-SPAN to do that. He looked just like the creep he is.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:56 PM

13. No, I'm not watching, just listening (thank goodness!)

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Response to elleng (Reply #13)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:58 PM

15. She never fails to impress. Let's see what they try via "questioning."

I don’t mind any actual questions but those speeches make me want to scream.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #15)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:12 PM

19. She's great, as is Joyce Vance.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:40 PM

33. Darn, DirecTV out so watching on DU/UTUBE and he's

now!

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:57 PM

14. Joyce Vance ROCKS...

She has a super-precise and measured manner of speaking, yet she is deadly powerful with her words.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:59 PM

16. Thanks.

YouTube keeps cutting out... I may have to catch up later.

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #16)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:54 PM

36. C-Span will be repeating this at 8:30 tonight.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:00 PM

17. What channel is c-span on Roku?

Looking for the hearing. Might have to move to another room.

Nevermind, catching it on streaming.

https://judiciary.house.gov/legislation/hearings/lessons-mueller-report-presidential-obstruction-and-other-crimes

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:05 PM

18. As long as public media outlets do not

carry this, the majority of Americans still won't hear about the report. CSPAN just cut to a House debate. Most people don't get CSPAN3.

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:20 PM

21. IIRC, back during Watergate, the networks weren't interupting the soaps all day to show hearings

PBS was the primary one showing them (which was channel 12 here in Philly plus they ran the audio on the public radio channels) and this was all before CSPAN or any of the cable news shows existed (CSPAN came along in 1980). The networks may have shown some of it and rotated who would cover even that (and would show blips during the evening news broadcast) but they weren't blanketed across television.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #21)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:09 PM

39. Correct.

And the PBS stations reran the hearings in their entirety in the evening. I stayed up as late as I could stand. We couldn't tape things back then.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #39)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:16 PM

40. Me too

and mainly because my political science major Mom was closely following it. I was in 7th grade at the time and going to a "magnet" school downtown so on occasion I would have my little transistor radio with me and would listen to it (boring yes.... ) on the way home on the train (it ran on 90.9 WHYY radio here in Philly).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #21)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 06:04 PM

63. C-Span is not what it it used to be, dammit.


Now it is hard to navigate to find old videos, and way more Republican point of view.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #63)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 08:28 PM

76. I just use the search on their archive site

I think they pretty much have everything going back to 1980 including many many panel discussions from think tanks, etc.

My Mom was a CSPAN junkie and would complain about "Brian" (Lamb, who founded it and used to host many of the call-in programs but is now retired) "having his foot on the call cutoff button" (on the floor) whenever a Democrat called.

Looks like they updated it but you can put a subject in the search box and all the hits come up for whatever they have on the subject - https://www.c-span.org/about/videoLibrary/

It's such an incredible resource!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #21)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 08:15 PM

75. We had am and pm newspapers back then.


the Seattle Times and the Seattle Post Intelligencer ( HEARST)
Plus Cronkite at 6:30 on the tv.
I was a stay at home Mom then. so could read the papers and see the news on tv, it was covered pretty well for the times.For some reason, I did not tune into PBS for the hearings, not sure then that I knew they were on.

I just knew that I found everything about Nixon repulsive, even as a young kid back in 1952 when I saw his Checkers speech esp.that the adults were watching.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #75)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 08:41 PM

77. Here in Philly, we had the morning and evening Bulletin

And really, I think most people were NOT "tuning in" unless they were political junkies. I know the current media like to play it up as if it was "must watch television" akin to the Super Bowl, but it was like most hearings - pretty mundane and droning.... but covering some extraordinary circumstances.

My Mom would have been 89 this year and she had been a stay-at-home mother but also had degrees in political science and history so she was very much interested. The one sad thing though - during that July was when my Dad died, so for a time, the hearings and other investigations became a backdrop for a more immediate familial drama. But I do remember sitting with her watching Nixon's resignation speech that August and wishing my Dad had been there to see that.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:14 PM

20. It's on Youtube! n/t

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Response to shanti (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:28 PM

25. lots of places online just is not being televised except cspan 3 I wonder if they would block out

impeachment hearings too?

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Response to mucifer (Reply #25)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:16 PM

52. 1 now has it on.

Barr, McGhan subpeona on 3.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:25 PM

22. Gohmert is a piece a shit.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:26 PM

23. Gohmert is such an ass

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Response to EleanorR (Reply #23)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:27 PM

24. He's spewing some serious shit here

Unfuckingbelievable

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:30 PM

26. I'm having to refresh this video every 10 seconds or less!

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #26)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:34 PM

27. I gave up

Just as Gohmert was coming on...

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #26)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:34 PM

28. no issues here

Sorry you're having technical difficulties.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:36 PM

29. Gym Jordan, here we go!

They're doing everything we thought they would do.

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Response to shanti (Reply #29)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:37 PM

31. all these repubs make me sick......

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Response to shanti (Reply #29)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:39 PM

32. Assholes on parade.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:37 PM

30. Gym Jordan is making an ass of himself

John Dean isn't having it.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:41 PM

34. The American public should know that John Dean is a REPUBLICAN

who was appointed by and served under a REPUBLICAN President!

Gym Jordan belongs in jail.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #34)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:19 PM

41. He get off smelling guys sweaty jock straps.

I have always been suspect of the macho guys. They protest too loudly by their overt attempt to appear manly. The phony investigation of the whole affair was a coverup by the university administration to protect it from more lawsuits. I know that I will be criticized but I would love to see someone knock him on his ass.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:52 PM

35. John Dean is making a total FOOL out of Matt Gaetz!

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Response to George II (Reply #35)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:54 PM

37. John Dean owned Gaetz.

Gaetz is a fool.

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Response to blue neen (Reply #37)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:00 PM

38. And Dean summed it up, when Nadler asked Dean if he wanted to answer Gaetz' last question.....

...."That was a speech, not a question, and I don't have enough time to address it!!"

(paraphrasing it, but pretty close)

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:20 PM

42. Compared with John Dean these teabaggers

are total and complete light weights - this is so much fun watching him destroy them

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:40 PM

44. I'm going to be a Debbie Downer here,

 

Democratic members are repeating facts that came from the redacted Mueller report, McQuade and Vance are doing a fine job explaining the redacted Mueller report but...

Republicans are using this hearing to do what I said they were going to do. They are formulating their conspiracy theory, most of which is lies, about how the crooked FBI, the partisan FBI went on a witch hunt against Trump, Republicans are pushing the lies that Hillary conspired with Christopher Steele to concoct his dossier paid for by Hillary to smear Donald Trump.

Republicans were given a stage to concoct what Barr is going to report from his investigation that the crooked FBI and Hillary carried on a witch hunt against Trump.

Democrats are repeating a truthful cut and dried case of Trump's obstruction of justice regarding the firing of Mueller while Republicans are carrying on a separate, full of lies story, about how they are going to defend Trump.

I think this hearing was a mistake, sorry, Republicans got to put out bald face lies with no challenges or rebuttals. To the contrary, they told lies then went to their stooge from the Heritage Foundation to back up their lies.

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Response to watoos (Reply #44)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:46 PM

46. But the republicans are making fools of themselves doing so. Goehmert and Gaetz...

....were the most idiotic. And John Dean humiliated both of them.

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Response to watoos (Reply #44)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:57 PM

48. The Republicans look silly doing their clown show

It's obvious that they are afraid and so are trying to make a joke out of it and Dean's 1-liners are shutting them down effectively. They all keep yielding their time to an alleged perp because they know they are fucked and can't or won't put on the performance that they have been told to engage in.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:45 PM

45. Ted Lieu just DIRECTLY quoted trump at the hearing! "I'm fucked!"

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:56 PM

47. Fucking MSNBC & CNN

covered the helicopter crash for 2 hours!

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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #47)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 06:09 PM

65. I am going to see about contacting it's producers..

Anyone know how?

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Response to triron (Reply #65)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 06:59 PM

68. Send a tweet to @msnbc @cnn

I'm not sure about general programming. I know each show has its own producers.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:58 PM

49. Watching the GOP and their exchanges with their Heritage Foundation witness I got a flashback

of Selectric typewriters and letter size and "that other board" and god, I'm so tired.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:09 PM

50. What a day! C-Span is now covering this hearing AND C-Span3 is covering the Rules Committee.....

....voting on filing suit regarding the Barr and McGahn subpoenas.

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Response to George II (Reply #50)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:23 PM

53. Yeah

I had to take a bathroom break and when I came back, I continued to watch what was running on CSPAN3 a bit and was like.... wait, what just happened when they were talking about marking up a resolution? Then I switched to CSPAN and there it was.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #53)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:24 PM

54. You? How about Jamie Raskin? He's been running back and forth between the two.

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Response to George II (Reply #54)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:26 PM

56. LOL

Hope the hearing rooms are in the same building.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:11 PM

51. As was readily predictable, none of the major networks are carrying this, not even MSNBC.

The general public, the folks we need to reach, are not watching this Judiciary public access feed, just us political wonks.

We would get a lot more network attention if the hearings were actual impeachment investigation hearings.

Neither Mueller nor actual investigation facts witnesses like Don McGahn are here. MSNBC legal analysts are not adequate replacements.

This just emphasizes that the real fact witnesses have ignored our demands to appear. We need to do better. This is not cutting it. It is certainly not an adequate replacement for impeachment investigation hearings.


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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #51)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:28 PM

57. A large percentage of adults don't watch cable news.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #57)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:48 PM

61. If they were impeachment hearings, they'd be on regular broadcast networks. nt

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #61)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 06:01 PM

62. No they wouldn't.

People were bitching when a tornado warning was in effect in the Dayton area tearing up a couple suburban towns and a local Dayton station broke in to interrupt the "Batchelorette" program airing to explain where the danger was.



TEXT
Jon Levine

@LevineJonathan

WATCH: Weatherman @JamieFOX45Now in Dayton, Ohio snapped at viewers complaining on social media about the network's decision to cut into The Bachelorette Monday evening with emergency tornado warning coverage

"I'm done with you people, I really am. This is pathetic"
72.2K
10:21 AM - May 28, 2019



So you can imagine what the hell people (who are even "home" or at some place to even watch such) would do if their network programming was interrupted by "hearings".

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #62)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 06:04 PM

64. I disagree.

The hearings would not take place in the evenings during the Bachelorette.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #64)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 06:13 PM

66. They would be on during The Price Is Right, Dr. Oz and General Hospital

Same thing.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #66)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:42 PM

71. No, not the same thing as breaking into prime time programming. nt

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #64)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 06:15 PM

67. During Watergate, only PBS ran the hearings during the day

with networks occasionally rotating some coverage between themselves. They did NOT break away from the soaps to run hearings that the majority of people were not interested in. The viewing public is not "DU". They are not obsessing over the sausage-making of American government.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #67)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:45 PM

72. Everyone has PBS. That would get a lot more eyeballs than the Judiciary web feed. nt

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #72)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:52 PM

73. Then you must be really pleased that PBS covered it live today.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #73)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 09:40 PM

78. The PBS station here in LA certainly didn't carry it all day. Maybe snippets during their News.

We still have a big problem. No Mueller grand jury info. No witnesses. No Mueller. Don't know what your jumpy emoji is for, other than sarcasm.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #72)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:54 PM

74. That's if you can keep the GOP from trying to defund it.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #51)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:30 PM

58. I agree,

 

our witnesses did a good job of explaining what we already knew from the redacted Mueller report.

This was like 2 separate hearings; Democrats repeatedly made the case that Trump obstructed justice while Republicans were given a stage to preview what Barr is going to release from his "investigation." Republicans told so many lies about the Mueller investigation that were never refuted, rather they were confirmed by the Heritage Foundation stooge.

This hearing was a mistake IMO.

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Response to watoos (Reply #58)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:44 PM

60. Yup. That Heritage Foundation stooge would not be at an impeachment investigation hearing.

The format of these oversight hearings is just not conducive to educating the American public, and certainly does not grab media attention.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:25 PM

55. looks like CSpan will have it tonight starting at 8:30

eom


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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:35 PM

59. Are all the Dems freezing out Ratcliffe?

lol

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:22 PM

70. So grateful, dixiegrrrl, for your post. I wasn't finding it uninterrupted & complete elsewhere.

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