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(102,188 posts)MSNBC would not leave the helicopter crash (yes, of course, I'm sorry about that but once the initial facts are reported can updates not come through chyron?
Siwsan
(26,255 posts)Giving historic perspective.
hlthe2b
(102,188 posts)Siwsan
(26,255 posts)He talked about the potential dangling of pardons that happened during Watergate.
BumRushDaShow
(128,699 posts)He was comfortable in telling his brief story given he was there in the WH and Counsel for a President. And interestingly enough, when Collins, who was 8 years old during Watergate, was excoriating the hearing, the camera switched to Dean and Dean was looking at him with a smirk on his face like someone would look at any 8 year old mouthing off.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)You might want to just sit down and be quiet, son.
BumRushDaShow
(128,699 posts)(ETA, my 44,000th post )
olegramps
(8,200 posts)pnwmom
(108,972 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,699 posts)He's a smarmy idiot.
Habibi
(3,598 posts)stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)Their legal brand of condescension, loopholerism, and faux outrage predictable and delivered.
elleng
(130,820 posts)nolabear
(41,956 posts)Really unusual for C-SPAN to do that. He looked just like the creep he is.
elleng
(130,820 posts)nolabear
(41,956 posts)I dont mind any actual questions but those speeches make me want to scream.
elleng
(130,820 posts)elleng
(130,820 posts)targetpractice
(4,919 posts)She has a super-precise and measured manner of speaking, yet she is deadly powerful with her words.
demmiblue
(36,833 posts)YouTube keeps cutting out... I may have to catch up later.
George II
(67,782 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,697 posts)Looking for the hearing. Might have to move to another room.
Nevermind, catching it on streaming.
https://judiciary.house.gov/legislation/hearings/lessons-mueller-report-presidential-obstruction-and-other-crimes
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)carry this, the majority of Americans still won't hear about the report. CSPAN just cut to a House debate. Most people don't get CSPAN3.
BumRushDaShow
(128,699 posts)PBS was the primary one showing them (which was channel 12 here in Philly plus they ran the audio on the public radio channels) and this was all before CSPAN or any of the cable news shows existed (CSPAN came along in 1980). The networks may have shown some of it and rotated who would cover even that (and would show blips during the evening news broadcast) but they weren't blanketed across television.
murielm99
(30,724 posts)And the PBS stations reran the hearings in their entirety in the evening. I stayed up as late as I could stand. We couldn't tape things back then.
BumRushDaShow
(128,699 posts)and mainly because my political science major Mom was closely following it. I was in 7th grade at the time and going to a "magnet" school downtown so on occasion I would have my little transistor radio with me and would listen to it (boring yes.... ) on the way home on the train (it ran on 90.9 WHYY radio here in Philly).
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Now it is hard to navigate to find old videos, and way more Republican point of view.
BumRushDaShow
(128,699 posts)I think they pretty much have everything going back to 1980 including many many panel discussions from think tanks, etc.
My Mom was a CSPAN junkie and would complain about "Brian" (Lamb, who founded it and used to host many of the call-in programs but is now retired) "having his foot on the call cutoff button" (on the floor) whenever a Democrat called.
Looks like they updated it but you can put a subject in the search box and all the hits come up for whatever they have on the subject - https://www.c-span.org/about/videoLibrary/
It's such an incredible resource!
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)the Seattle Times and the Seattle Post Intelligencer ( HEARST)
Plus Cronkite at 6:30 on the tv.
I was a stay at home Mom then. so could read the papers and see the news on tv, it was covered pretty well for the times.For some reason, I did not tune into PBS for the hearings, not sure then that I knew they were on.
I just knew that I found everything about Nixon repulsive, even as a young kid back in 1952 when I saw his Checkers speech esp.that the adults were watching.
BumRushDaShow
(128,699 posts)And really, I think most people were NOT "tuning in" unless they were political junkies. I know the current media like to play it up as if it was "must watch television" akin to the Super Bowl, but it was like most hearings - pretty mundane and droning.... but covering some extraordinary circumstances.
My Mom would have been 89 this year and she had been a stay-at-home mother but also had degrees in political science and history so she was very much interested. The one sad thing though - during that July was when my Dad died, so for a time, the hearings and other investigations became a backdrop for a more immediate familial drama. But I do remember sitting with her watching Nixon's resignation speech that August and wishing my Dad had been there to see that.
shanti
(21,675 posts)mucifer
(23,521 posts)impeachment hearings too?
True Blue American
(17,982 posts)Barr, McGhan subpeona on 3.
a kennedy
(29,642 posts)EleanorR
(2,389 posts)malaise
(268,844 posts)Unfuckingbelievable
Baitball Blogger
(46,697 posts)phatkatt
(1,376 posts)Just as Gohmert was coming on...
EleanorR
(2,389 posts)Sorry you're having technical difficulties.
shanti
(21,675 posts)They're doing everything we thought they would do.
a kennedy
(29,642 posts)spanone
(135,802 posts)MontanaMama
(23,297 posts)John Dean isn't having it.
BumRushDaShow
(128,699 posts)who was appointed by and served under a REPUBLICAN President!
Gym Jordan belongs in jail.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)I have always been suspect of the macho guys. They protest too loudly by their overt attempt to appear manly. The phony investigation of the whole affair was a coverup by the university administration to protect it from more lawsuits. I know that I will be criticized but I would love to see someone knock him on his ass.
George II
(67,782 posts)blue neen
(12,319 posts)Gaetz is a fool.
George II
(67,782 posts)...."That was a speech, not a question, and I don't have enough time to address it!!"
(paraphrasing it, but pretty close)
malaise
(268,844 posts)are total and complete light weights - this is so much fun watching him destroy them
watoos
(7,142 posts)Democratic members are repeating facts that came from the redacted Mueller report, McQuade and Vance are doing a fine job explaining the redacted Mueller report but...
Republicans are using this hearing to do what I said they were going to do. They are formulating their conspiracy theory, most of which is lies, about how the crooked FBI, the partisan FBI went on a witch hunt against Trump, Republicans are pushing the lies that Hillary conspired with Christopher Steele to concoct his dossier paid for by Hillary to smear Donald Trump.
Republicans were given a stage to concoct what Barr is going to report from his investigation that the crooked FBI and Hillary carried on a witch hunt against Trump.
Democrats are repeating a truthful cut and dried case of Trump's obstruction of justice regarding the firing of Mueller while Republicans are carrying on a separate, full of lies story, about how they are going to defend Trump.
I think this hearing was a mistake, sorry, Republicans got to put out bald face lies with no challenges or rebuttals. To the contrary, they told lies then went to their stooge from the Heritage Foundation to back up their lies.
George II
(67,782 posts)....were the most idiotic. And John Dean humiliated both of them.
BumRushDaShow
(128,699 posts)It's obvious that they are afraid and so are trying to make a joke out of it and Dean's 1-liners are shutting them down effectively. They all keep yielding their time to an alleged perp because they know they are fucked and can't or won't put on the performance that they have been told to engage in.
George II
(67,782 posts)lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)covered the helicopter crash for 2 hours!
triron
(21,988 posts)Anyone know how?
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)I'm not sure about general programming. I know each show has its own producers.
blogslut
(37,990 posts)of Selectric typewriters and letter size and "that other board" and god, I'm so tired.
George II
(67,782 posts)....voting on filing suit regarding the Barr and McGahn subpoenas.
BumRushDaShow
(128,699 posts)I had to take a bathroom break and when I came back, I continued to watch what was running on CSPAN3 a bit and was like.... wait, what just happened when they were talking about marking up a resolution? Then I switched to CSPAN and there it was.
George II
(67,782 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,699 posts)Hope the hearing rooms are in the same building.
SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)The general public, the folks we need to reach, are not watching this Judiciary public access feed, just us political wonks.
We would get a lot more network attention if the hearings were actual impeachment investigation hearings.
Neither Mueller nor actual investigation facts witnesses like Don McGahn are here. MSNBC legal analysts are not adequate replacements.
This just emphasizes that the real fact witnesses have ignored our demands to appear. We need to do better. This is not cutting it. It is certainly not an adequate replacement for impeachment investigation hearings.
Kaleva
(36,290 posts)SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,699 posts)People were bitching when a tornado warning was in effect in the Dayton area tearing up a couple suburban towns and a local Dayton station broke in to interrupt the "Batchelorette" program airing to explain where the danger was.
Link to tweet
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Jon Levine
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@LevineJonathan
WATCH: Weatherman @JamieFOX45Now in Dayton, Ohio snapped at viewers complaining on social media about the network's decision to cut into The Bachelorette Monday evening with emergency tornado warning coverage
"I'm done with you people, I really am. This is pathetic"
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10:21 AM - May 28, 2019
So you can imagine what the hell people (who are even "home" or at some place to even watch such) would do if their network programming was interrupted by "hearings".
SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)The hearings would not take place in the evenings during the Bachelorette.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Same thing.
SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,699 posts)with networks occasionally rotating some coverage between themselves. They did NOT break away from the soaps to run hearings that the majority of people were not interested in. The viewing public is not "DU". They are not obsessing over the sausage-making of American government.
SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)We still have a big problem. No Mueller grand jury info. No witnesses. No Mueller. Don't know what your jumpy emoji is for, other than sarcasm.
BumRushDaShow
(128,699 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)our witnesses did a good job of explaining what we already knew from the redacted Mueller report.
This was like 2 separate hearings; Democrats repeatedly made the case that Trump obstructed justice while Republicans were given a stage to preview what Barr is going to release from his "investigation." Republicans told so many lies about the Mueller investigation that were never refuted, rather they were confirmed by the Heritage Foundation stooge.
This hearing was a mistake IMO.
SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)The format of these oversight hearings is just not conducive to educating the American public, and certainly does not grab media attention.
NJCher
(35,643 posts)eom
blogslut
(37,990 posts)lol