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Mon Jun 10, 2019, 06:24 PM

Joyce Vance, Barb McQuade and Dean have done a nice job showing Heritage Found. lacky, Malcolm

(John Malcolm) for the bullshitter (like Barr) that he is. He comes out looking really bad, IMO.

BTW, he is responsible for Kavanagh being nominated.


For those who didn't see the hearings this afternoon, please see the FULL video below. John Dean was great, but my biggest congrats and praise has to go to Barbara McQuade and Joyce White Vance--two former Federal prosecutors (now law professors) whose experience, concise answers, preparedness and surgical dissection of the Republican's attempts at "gotcha questions" were both just phenomenal.

I thought they were a great choice (though I have great love and respect for the likes of Laurence Tribe, Norm Eisen, Neal Katyal and others), but I honestly don't think anyone could have done better than these incredibly competent women!

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Reply Joyce Vance, Barb McQuade and Dean have done a nice job showing Heritage Found. lacky, Malcolm (Original post)
hlthe2b Jun 2019 OP
N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2019 #1
hlthe2b Jun 2019 #2
Evolve Dammit Jun 2019 #8
blue neen Jun 2019 #3
Volaris Jun 2019 #15
stuffmatters Jun 2019 #4
MontanaMama Jun 2019 #5
hlthe2b Jun 2019 #6
MontanaMama Jun 2019 #7
Evolve Dammit Jun 2019 #9
Volaris Jun 2019 #16
StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #11
StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #10
BigmanPigman Jun 2019 #12
samnsara Jun 2019 #13
MySideOfTown Jun 2019 #14
Volaris Jun 2019 #18
Ztolkins Jun 2019 #17
samnsara Jun 2019 #19
HAB911 Jun 2019 #20

Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 06:30 PM

1. Malcom...

Iíve seen cleaner garbage dumps.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 06:51 PM

2. Special kick of appreciation for Barb McQuade and Joyce White Vance!

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:52 PM

8. Yes! Two of my favorite former prosecuters.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 06:59 PM

3. Dean, Vance, and McQuade were all great.

They did an amazing job of getting important info about Trump's obstruction out there.

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Response to blue neen (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 08:58 PM

15. And they didn't let his enablers grandstand.

And not for nothing, but this is one of the reasons why the SC won't allow cameras in; audio only ...

Because they knew if they did, most of the respect, decourm, and FEAR that lawyers have for the court as in institution would be out the window, and lawyers would get up there and grandstand for the cameras. Congress should start taking seriously it's own rules of decourm and professionalism , and start slapping it's own members with censure and contempt citations for doing shit like Lindsey did during the Kavanaugh sessions...
And there SHOULD be real penalties for that nonsense ...if I get three write-ups at work, I get fired and won't be ALLOWED to com back heh...

Just my two cents, and yes, I understand that Republicans would weaponize the everliving fuck out of it for their own benefit , so please don't yell at me lol...

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:02 PM

4. Haughty Macolm was the perfect rep for arrogant loopholerism of The Federalist Judge Factory too.

Pedantic, obnoxious, condescending, smug throughout just like the rest of the Heritage/Federalist/Koch legal product (from Thomas to Kavanaugh)

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:16 PM

5. Malcolm at one point whined

that he was lonely because nobody was asking him any questions.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:17 PM

6. Which was nice because it further diminshed him as an "expert"

Granted that was only possible because we hold the majority, but boy was it nice to see us use our power wisely.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:20 PM

7. Agree 100%

I thought Nadler did a great job chairing and Gym Jordan, Matt Gaetz and crew looked like overwrought emotional basket cases. They didnít even try not being assholes.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:54 PM

9. I don't think they ever could imagine, let alone stop being complete assholes. DNA?

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 09:09 PM

16. That's cause they're terrified that the house will actually impeach.

If they KNOW he should go, and don't vote for it, the base won't be big enough to save them .
If they vote to remove , I guarantee Trump will mail all the dirt he has on them to the fake news as revenge.

Welp,...not my circius, not my monkey. Sorry guys, not fuckin sorry...you did this TO YOURSELVES SO WELCOME TO THE PARTY OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AHAHAHAHHAA!

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:58 PM

11. So true

He was exposed as just what he was - a potted plant with nothing useful to contribute.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:56 PM

10. They were outstanding

One of the things I loved about their testimony is that they weren't there to push for or against impeachment. They just brought their expertise to analyze the very specific and narrow issue of obstruction of justice. They were substantive, poised, sharp, quick on the uptake and didn't put up with any crap.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 08:21 PM

12. "I'm fucked" at 2:18 in the video. Love it!

The Donald said "This is the end of my presidency" when Mueller was hired. Was this on TV?

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 08:37 PM

13. they were great! Loved how Dean said the phone rang in his ear...

...i need to look up his wife Maureen. I was in my very early 20s and my memory of the trial was watching Dean testify and his wife, Mo, behind him...her beautiful platinum blond bun.. so classy!

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 08:43 PM

14. Malcolm said Dirty Don could have fired them all directly,

so why didn't he? Instead he tried to corruptly enlist his minions to do his dirty work and it came off as appearing to be obstruction to the minions. Why was that? I wish someone had asked him, as I think he presented himself pretty well, though I disagree with the ideology, it would have been a question I would have liked to hear him answer.

The ladies did well. I wonder if Dean was the correct actor for the pilot of Season One of the impeachment show. We shall see.

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Response to MySideOfTown (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 09:12 PM

18. 'he could have fired them directly... why didn't he?'

Because even Donald Goddamn Trump isn't stupid enough to recreate the Saturday Night Massacre.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 09:11 PM

17. I really like Vance and McQuade

But couldn't they have gotten former attorneys not associated with MSNBC?

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 07:20 AM

19. Loved those two together. What a formidable force!

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 07:53 AM

20. Joyce Vance, Barb McQuade

ON POINT. Concise. Unbiased. Love them both

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