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Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:49 PM Jun 2019

WHAT TRUMP IS DOING AT THE BORDER

IF YOU CARE ABOUT WHAT TRUMP IS DOING AT THE BORDER, you need to read and share this thread.


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1139192167501484033.html?utm_source=ext

I have just gotten off the phone with a friend who is a legal volunteer in Border Patrol facilities.

Don't look away.

1/
My friend has done two tours now volunteering as a legal advocate inside CBP facilities.

She passed along information about what is happening there that indicates that the Trump Administration is violating every basic human right, and is moving toward military "solutions."

2/
So that folks understand the process: CBP has outposts on the border. Refugees seeking asylum travel hundreds of miles on foot, including with infants and small children, and turn themselves in at these outposts *on foot.*

Here's what happens next. Don't look away.

3/
CBP then transfers these human beings to a facility called "the Dog Pound." (Here, my friend started crying.)

The "Dog Pound" is comprised of cages, outside and on dirt, with no protection from the elements.

Don't look away.

4/
There are dozens of teen moms there.

There is no baby food.

While there, my friend saw a CBP agent take a baby from her teenage mother, strip the baby of its clothes, hand the baby back to the mother, and send them outside to the "Dog Pound" to sleep in the dirt.

5/
The "Dog Pound" has no running water, no covers, no tarp, no care, no safety from the elements. It is freezing at night, and deathly hot during the day.

Everyone is sick. My friend said she saw a baby on this trip that was so sick "I thought it would be dead by morning."

6/
Toddlers in the "Dog Pound" who had been eating solid food are given only infant formula. Moms are trying to start breast feeding again so their children don't starve.

These moms are dehydrated, sick, & have walked miles through desert with no water. CBP gives them nothing.

7/
It gets worse. Don't look away.

From the "Dog Pound," these human beings are moved to an area called "The Freezer."

The Freezer is kept at 55 degrees.

Some of the refugees who are moved there are still wet from their journey, and are put in The Freezer wet.

8/
CBP is keeping human beings in "The Freezer" for weeks at a time. WEEKS.

Including critically ill people, disabled people, sick children, teenage mothers with babies.

The floor of The Freezer is made of dirt or very rough concrete. There are no beds.

Keep reading.

9/
From "The Freezer," refugees are supposed to be moved to ICE facilities that are designed for residential care. They have beds, food, bathrooms.

However, (keep reading) THOSE FACILITIES ARE EMPTY.

ICE IS SHUTTING THEM DOWN.

Don't look away.

10/
What our government is doing instead is moving refugees to MILITARY INSTALLATIONS.

The announcement about Fort Sill, which was used as a Japanese internment camp, is only the start.

So why would our government be doing this?

11/
Here's why

These concentration camps (let's call them what they are) will be under the control of the Department of Homeland Security, but within the Department of Defense.

12/.
Unlike ICE facilities, which allow site inspectors inside, there will be no inspection of military-run camps.

The military will be able to deny access to anyone it chooses. No media. No oversight.

13/
Lawyers will not be allowed in. Human rights monitors will not be allowed in.

The camps will also be protected airspace, meaning that no drones can fly over them to take pictures of what's going on inside.

14/
The Trump administration will be able to conduct itself in whatever way it wants to without anyone knowing what's going on inside.

Think about what that means. Think about why they would want that.

This is happening RIGHT NOW.

15/
ICE facilities with beds and food are EMPTY, because the Trump administration is moving refugees into military-run concentration camps where they can do ANYTHING THEY CHOOSE without oversight, media scrutiny or advocate access.

16/
This administration is already committing atrocities at CBP facilities.

Border Patrol agents at the facility where my friend was working refer to these human beings as "bodies." Not people. "Bodies."

They are denying medicine, toilets, beds, food, shelter and clothes.

17/
My friend said that "Flores is on very tenuous ground."

We're days away from being met with "we're not going to let you in, no matter what."

18/
What is coming is crimes against humanity.

America is already perpetrating mass human rights violations, and this administration is setting it up so they can do far worse, in secret, under military supervision.

19/
Military forces are already been shifted to CBP. My friend saw *coast guard agents* (read that again) working for CBP at this facility.

If we do nothing, there will be blood on our hands.

20/
If Pelosi does nothing, there will be blood on her hands and the hands of every Democrat who refuses to act to end this administration's reign.

Fascism is here.

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If this enrages you, devastates you, frightens you, share this thread.

Then call your member of Congress and read it to them.

Then call @SpeakerPelosi and ask her why she sits silently by as our government does this.

22/
We're on a fast train to hell.

There's only one way to stop it.

Trump must be removed from power immediately, by any legal means, using every weapon in our arsenal.

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WHAT TRUMP IS DOING AT THE BORDER (Original Post) Stonepounder Jun 2019 OP
just one of the many injustices this inhumane administration is getting away with. spanone Jun 2019 #1
Looks like he'll get away with it SHRED Jun 2019 #2
what does Nancy have to do with elections? stillcool Jun 2019 #9
You bring impeachment SHRED Jun 2019 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author stillcool Jun 2019 #20
That person should be documenting all of this in photos. MineralMan Jun 2019 #3
Mass murder in slow motion The Blue Flower Jun 2019 #4
We need someone/anyone bdamomma Jun 2019 #5
I hope your friend is dispensing this marybourg Jun 2019 #6
It's an unrolled twitter thread. Scoopster Jun 2019 #7
Just saw this posted from June 11th... BigmanPigman Jun 2019 #17
Shocking, but not surprising awesomerwb1 Jun 2019 #8
It's not a matter of if, but when Mr.Bill Jun 2019 #11
Does the UN have a right to send inspectors? Lonestarblue Jun 2019 #12
Good God! gopiscrap Jun 2019 #13
Thank you for posting this, Stonepounder cp Jun 2019 #14
K&R for visibility. There are no words.... alwaysinasnit Jun 2019 #15
And this MF orange blob isn't worth Pelosi's effort to impeach?!!!!! nt in2herbs Jun 2019 #16
With the military going along with it, they are just as culpable gtar100 Jun 2019 #18
any way of getting this to national news organizations... dhill926 Jun 2019 #19
Where is America? dchill Jun 2019 #21
K&R BlueJac Jun 2019 #22
Everything about this is inhuman Kaiserguy Jun 2019 #23
OMFG!! 😢 Duppers Jun 2019 #24
Trump considers them 'animals' anyway. keithbvadu2 Jun 2019 #25
It isn't just the Cretin who needs removed and incarcerated. His entire... Guilded Lilly Jun 2019 #26
Please use this article when discussing this with moderates/people on the fence. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #27
I suspected this was happening long time ago. Doreen Jun 2019 #28

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
9. what does Nancy have to do with elections?
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:04 PM
Jun 2019

Is she a one stop to shit on when you fear a future event? You could get your impeachment dreams come true tomorrow, and it won't change elections one bit.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
10. You bring impeachment
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:19 PM
Jun 2019

An extended process to bring to light his crimes.
Not that he'd be removed (Repub Senate) but that he'd be damaged badly for 2020.

Response to SHRED (Reply #10)

The Blue Flower

(5,434 posts)
4. Mass murder in slow motion
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:58 PM
Jun 2019

It makes me think of the medieval punishment of locking a person in a cage open to the elements with no food or water. It's a death sentence.

bdamomma

(63,801 posts)
5. We need someone/anyone
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:58 PM
Jun 2019

to come out and whistle blow on this whole inhuman situation.

They are committing atrocities (we know that) probably drugging them up too. They took a page from the Holocaust.

those who are committing these unspeakable acts should be in the "dog pound" tRump and Stephen Miller should be considered.

BigmanPigman

(51,568 posts)
17. Just saw this posted from June 11th...
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:56 PM
Jun 2019

"@NealSoftPower
stumbled across a “human dog pound” near an El Paso international bridge, CBP acknowledged it has been detaining migrants outdoors for extended periods as temperatures hit 100. My story for Texas Monthly."

"In El Paso, Border Patrol Is Detaining Migrants in ‘a Human Dog Pound’,
Immigration officials have resumed the much-criticized practice of keeping people outdoors for weeks to relieve dangerous overcrowding."

I got it when I checked out Jacob Soboroff's twitter. He is the MSNBC reporter mentioned in the original OP and he had this info already. I wonder why he hasn't reported on it. I have seen him go to immigrant shelter for over a year.

awesomerwb1

(4,265 posts)
8. Shocking, but not surprising
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:38 PM
Jun 2019

Crimes against humanity. When they transfer the refugees to military facilities eventually, there will be no oversight.

This made me so incredibly sad.

Mr.Bill

(24,251 posts)
11. It's not a matter of if, but when
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:23 PM
Jun 2019

we will find mass graves.

We should be studying in detail what Germany did after WWII to reform their nation and hold those responsible accountable because that's the exact position we will be in if we ever rid ourselves of this disgrace.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
12. Does the UN have a right to send inspectors?
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:26 PM
Jun 2019

These actions are clearly a violation of the human rights of asylum seekers. The US is a signatory to the UN Declaration of the Rights of the Child, which of course means nothing to this administration, which thinks nothing of breaking federal law much less a mere declaration. Why does NBC/CBS/ABC cover Trump’s every illiterate, inane remark but neglect to cover something as atrocious as this?

gopiscrap

(23,726 posts)
13. Good God!
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:31 PM
Jun 2019

and I thought the site in Tijuana was bad...Trump and everyone involved need to be tried for crimes against humanity

cp

(6,617 posts)
14. Thank you for posting this, Stonepounder
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:35 PM
Jun 2019

We must face what we are doing. And your last sentence is accurate. Thank you.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
18. With the military going along with it, they are just as culpable
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:08 PM
Jun 2019

as is every fucking republican who uses the word "illegals" to describe people. Fuck them all. May the wheel keep turning.

dhill926

(16,317 posts)
19. any way of getting this to national news organizations...
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:18 PM
Jun 2019

and yes, need photos and video...this government is now full on fascist...

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
24. OMFG!! 😢
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:56 PM
Jun 2019

"Trump must be removed from power immediately, by any legal means, using every weapon in our arsenal."

That's what some of us have been saying! Every Day he's damaging this country. Every day in office.

Let the impeachment proceedings begin. Now.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
26. It isn't just the Cretin who needs removed and incarcerated. His entire...
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 09:43 PM
Jun 2019

administration must go.
Now.
Without one moment of doubt.
The worst of America is obliterating the rest of us.
Without much of a fight.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
27. Please use this article when discussing this with moderates/people on the fence.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 01:46 PM
Jun 2019

One of the objections the right is using tactically to dismiss this issue is 'Obama did it'. While technically but superficially true, this article acknowledges that yes we did this too, but that conditions are vastly different (read: now inhumane).

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/migrant-children-internment-camp-fort-sill-847183/

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
28. I suspected this was happening long time ago.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 02:13 PM
Jun 2019

I do not think it is new. I think they pretty much started this in the beginning right after trumps inauguration. I/we damn well know they have been made into slaves. A lot of the children especially the girls are more than likely being used for sex slavery and probably adults also.
I suspect torture is happening just for the simple reason of sick people enjoying see other people in pain.

I sometimes feel ashamed to be American and yes, even white.

I know I will get yelled at for my last comment but I can't help what I sometimes feel.

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