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(67,103 posts)malaise
(268,912 posts)A Japanese shipment is attacked at the same time the Japanese PM is visiting Iran - absolute bullshit.
RKP5637
(67,103 posts)SOS IMO
Thyla
(791 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,642 posts)spanone
(135,816 posts)Bloomberg: Iran Has Little to Gain From Oman Tanker Attacks
Two oil tankers have been damaged in a suspected attack in the waters between the United Arab Emirates and Iran as they were leaving the Persian Gulf. This is the second incident in four weeks, and raises the question of who gains what from them.
Fingers will certainly be pointed at Iran as the mastermind behind these events. But the potential benefits to the Persian Gulf nation are outweighed by the risks. And even if Tehran isnt responsible, it will still suffer the consequences.
The first tanker to report a problem was the Front Altair. It was reported to be carrying 75,000 tons of naphtha, loaded in Abu Dhabi, to Japan, although it was signaling a destination of Kaosiung in Taiwan when it was damaged. The second vessel was the Japanese-owned Kokuka Courageous, which was sailing from Saudi Arabia to Singapore with a cargo of methanol.
A person whos heard local radio transmissions between ships in the region told Bloomberg that a torpedo attack is suspected to have caused an explosion and fire on the Front Altair. The managers of the Kokuka Courageous said in a statement that the 21 crew of the vessel abandoned ship after the incident on board which resulted in damage to the ships hull starboard side.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-06-13/iran-has-little-to-gain-from-oman-tanker-attacks
NYTIMES:
Despite Mr. Pompeos assertion, it was not immediately clear how the most recent incidents unfolded or who was involved, just as the circumstances of last months attacks remain murky. The two ships that were struck on Thursday appeared to have been more seriously damaged than those hit in May.
Iranian officials have denied any involvement in attacks on tankers. But in late May, John R. Bolton, President Trumps national security adviser, said that Iran was almost certainly responsible for the earlier attacks, and Mr. Pompeo agreed, saying that they were efforts by the Iranians to raise the price of crude oil.
Officials of other countries have been more cautious about publicly assigning blame. The United Arab Emirates described the attacks as state-sponsored, but did not specify a state.
Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E., both American allies, have long been at odds with Iran, and are backing opposing sides in the civil war in Yemen. But the sharpest recent changes have been in the United States-Iran relationship.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/13/world/middleeast/oil-tanker-attack-gulf-oman.html
H2O Man
(73,528 posts)We desperately need Dick and his Scooter to verify that Iran was behind 9/11, the attack on Pearl Harbor, and is currently stock-piling yellow cake and frosting. We need to know for sure if Iranians were playing golf at Tonkin, rather than at one of Trump's courses. And we need to get to the bottom of their theft of our oil, which they have hid under the sand.
Or maybe we need to wake the fuck up.
malaise
(268,912 posts)wake the fuck up for $2,000 Alex
H2O Man
(73,528 posts)that you will recall discussing the possibility that the Trumpsters were start a military conflict when their corruption was being exposed, about a year ago.
malaise
(268,912 posts)These are monsters
panader0
(25,816 posts)Vinca
(50,261 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,642 posts)They're the ones that want to take the Iranis out, and they want to do it on our dime, and letting our people do the dying.
mopinko
(70,076 posts)you country needs to talk to you sir.
pick up the white courtesy phone please.
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)Last month, the same terrorist group held an event in Paris, busing in thousands of young people from Eastern Europe to hear Donald Trumps personal attorney Rudy Giuliani call for regime change in Tehran. A similar event in Paris last year was addressed by John Bolton, who recently became President Trumps national security adviser.
How an organization that was only delisted by the US Department of State as a terrorist group in 2012 could so soon after win influential friends at the heart of Americas current administration is the strange and sinister story of the Mujahedin-e Khalq, better known by its initials, MEK. Commonly called a cult by most observers, the MEK systematically abuses its members, most of whom are effectively captives of the organization, according to Human Rights Watch (HRW). Regardless of its delisting by then Secretary of State Hillary Clintona political calculation on her part since many senior Democrats, as well as Republicans, had been persuaded by the MEKs lavish lobbying effortsthe group has never ceased terrorizing its members and has continued to conduct assassinations inside Iran.
In the 1980s, the MEK served as a private militia fighting for Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq War. Today, it has a different paymaster: the group is believed to be funded, in the millions of dollars, by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. In Washington, D.C., as in Paris, France, the MEK pays tens of thousands of dollars in speaking fees to US officials. Bolton, in particular, is a long-time paid supporter of the MEK, reportedly receiving as much as $180,000 for his appearances at the groups events...
(Much more...) https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/07/20/why-trumps-hawks-back-the-mek-terrorist-cult/
So, "Intelligence" might point to the use of these people in a false flag op., conserving US-UK special forces direct action for, soon?
(See also MEK website: https://mek-iran.com/ )
soryang
(3,299 posts)I guess Abe should have stayed home instead of trying to smooth things over for the US. That seems to be the message.
One ship operated by a Japanese company, both ships carrying Japanese cargo.
Japans Trade Ministry said both ships were carrying Japan-related cargo.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/13/world/middleeast/oil-tanker-attack-gulf-oman.html
malaise
(268,912 posts)This looks more like a threat to Japan - stay out or else