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Amaryllis

(9,578 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 10:09 PM Jun 2019

Lawrence just reported on Kevin McCarthy saying Putin paid Trump! And Chris Hayes said it earlier.

Finally they are giving it air time. I have been waiting a long time for this. I could never understand why even people like Rachel didn't give it more attention. Now if they would just report the part of the tape where Paul Ryan said let's keep that in the family after McCarthy said he thought Putin was paying Trump.

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Lawrence just reported on Kevin McCarthy saying Putin paid Trump! And Chris Hayes said it earlier. (Original Post) Amaryllis Jun 2019 OP
That's how Putin owns him. dalton99a Jun 2019 #1
One would think that the Democrats would play this over and over again in their ads. sarabelle Jun 2019 #17
Paid him. How? The Wielding Truth Jun 2019 #2
Dont know. There was a tape of a bunch of R's talking about how they thought Putin paid Amaryllis Jun 2019 #3
This: The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #5
Thank you. That's it exactly. Finally it is getting coverage. It should have been huge at the time. Amaryllis Jun 2019 #6
Wow This is something that needs more inspection! The Wielding Truth Jun 2019 #14
hmm. I hope we hear more. The Wielding Truth Jun 2019 #4
It was a sarcastic statement of opinion by McCarthy jberryhill Jun 2019 #7
Oh. It was just an opinion. Thought maybe we had a hook to catch this slime-ball. thanks The Wielding Truth Jun 2019 #8
Oh come on. That's their excuse for just about KPN Jun 2019 #9
nothingburger stopdiggin Jun 2019 #12
I've noticed for a time now Control-Z Jun 2019 #10
And I've noticed for a time now jberryhill Jun 2019 #13
An opinion based off the reality that the Russians pay them both uponit7771 Jun 2019 #11
I read it. Didn't sound that way at all. triron Jun 2019 #16
Lawrence was the one person who covered this from day one malaise Jun 2019 #15

Amaryllis

(9,578 posts)
3. Dont know. There was a tape of a bunch of R's talking about how they thought Putin paid
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 10:26 PM
Jun 2019

Trump and Rohrabacher and Paul Ryan said let's keep that in the family. But it never got teh press coverage it should have.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(117,416 posts)
5. This:
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 10:34 PM
Jun 2019
“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy....


Some of the lawmakers laughed at McCarthy’s comment. Then McCarthy quickly added: “Swear to God.”

Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: “No leaks. .?.?. This is how we know we’re a real family here.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html?utm_term=.e3015426bce7

The transcript: https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/national/read-the-transcript-of-the-conversation-among-gop-leaders-obtained-by-the-post/2209/?tid=a_inl_manual

Amaryllis

(9,578 posts)
6. Thank you. That's it exactly. Finally it is getting coverage. It should have been huge at the time.
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 10:37 PM
Jun 2019

But then that seems to be the norm now that huge things barely get attention because there are so many.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. It was a sarcastic statement of opinion by McCarthy
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 10:38 PM
Jun 2019

McCarthy said “I think” there are two people paid by Putin.

KPN

(15,810 posts)
9. Oh come on. That's their excuse for just about
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 12:47 AM
Jun 2019

everything. If it wasn’t that it was a joke or “we didn’t know it was illegal”. Who TF would fall for any of that shit?

stopdiggin

(11,838 posts)
12. nothingburger
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 02:34 AM
Jun 2019

I would for one. Couple reasons a) it was a sarcastic, back biting comment and was understood as such by the people present to hear it, and b) this is old, old news covered extensively in major media. There was never anything substantive about it. Just one R saying nasty things about another. There ARE big (and substantive) issues currently in play. Let's talk those up. But this is a waste of time.

Oh, and before the harpies are unleashed .. does this mean that I DON'T think that Trump is, and has been, awash in dirty money for ages? OF COURSE NOT! But there is no evidence whatsoever here in this off the cuff statement by McCarthy. That is all.

Control-Z

(15,683 posts)
10. I've noticed for a time now
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 01:33 AM
Jun 2019

that you seem to play devil's advocate a lot regarding trump-Russia and surrounding
questionable behavior.

Am I just imagining this? I apologize if that's the case. I am curious, though.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. And I've noticed for a time now
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 07:20 AM
Jun 2019

Last edited Fri Jun 14, 2019, 09:16 AM - Edit history (6)

That in the face of demonstrable criminality by Trump and his crew, there always seem to be those who seem intent on misleading people with tangential crap, like McCarthy’s comment.

We have a president who, just yesterday, openly invited foreign interference in the election. But, no, let’s focus on a speculative comment McCarthy made years ago.

If you think “trolls are people I disagree with” then you don’t understand how misinformation and misdirection works.

I’ve also noticed that people who hide behind pseudonyms make a lot of accusations against people who don’t.

Perhaps you also noticed, for example, that I was highly critical of Michael Avenatti, and took a lot of shit from people like you about it, questioning my motives. Where did all his promoters go?

I'll tell you what, Control-Z, how about you show me YOUR posts from 2014 warning about Russian-backed and funded influencers and trolls. Here's one of mine:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10024964016

Go ahead, I'll wait for yours. Don't have any? Why not? Were you fawning over Assange with the rest of them, simply because he made noises you were inclined to agree with?

But, go ahead, show me your earliest post warning about Russian backed trolls.

Another thing you'll notice if you pay attention long enough is the same people promoting bags of smoke:

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100211176410

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211171074

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