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Frum tweet; Assange the hypocrite
Link to tweet
David Frum ✔ @davidfrum
When Assange was warned that publishing the names of Afghans who had cooperated with US forces might put *THEIR* lives at risk, he replied: "Well, they're informants. So, if they get killed, they've got it coming to them. They deserve it." https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/sep/18/julian-assange-wikileaks-nick-cohen …
The treachery of Julian Assange | Nick Cohen
Nick Cohen: The WikiLeaks founder, far from being a champion of freedom, is an active danger to the real seekers of truth
theguardian.com
Bloomberg ✔ @business
Julian Assange tells a London court that his life is “effectively at stake” as he battles being sent to the U.S. where he faces charges that he endangered national security https://bloom.bg/2IecjpL
7:23 AM - Jun 14, 2019
Karma bites, Jules...
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He, again, will only lose only his freedom; while the poor informants lose their lives.
At the time, transparency seemed like a positive concept, so I was on board with it. It's crystal clear now that Assange and Wikileaks was likely a Russian front all along. 
another Iraq (and multiple other wars) war supporter rabid hawk (Nick Cohen) is hardly the way I would proceed to build a case versus Assange.
*https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/sep/18/julian-assange-wikileaks-nick-cohen 
Nick Cohen is a POS, major pusher for the Iraq war, and other disastrous military interventions.
Examples:
The Left betrays the Iraqi people by opposing war
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3586318/The-Left-betrays-the-Iraqi-people-by-opposing-war.html
As Tony Blair yesterday reaffirmed his determination to confront Saddam, the Stop The War coalition was able to present an impressive list of celebrities to add glamour to the fight to save Iraq from Anglo-American terror.
Gemma Redgrave, Anita Roddick, Rosie Boycott and Bianca Jagger are standing shoulder-to-shoulder with rough train drivers from Aslef and Marxist-Leninists from the Socialist Workers Party. Everyone who is anyone from the soft-headed centre to the anti-democratic Left is there. All are welcome - except the people in whose name the party is being thrown: the Iraqis.
Tens of thousands might have been invited. London remains a great exile city, and for more than 20 years Kurds and Arabs have fled from Saddam's persecution to sanctuary in Britain. Yet not one of the 50 Iraqi dissident groups that met in the capital last month to organise the struggle for national liberation has been asked to join the coalition. Nor would they be thanked if they tried to gatecrash.
Gemma Redgrave, Anita Roddick, Rosie Boycott and Bianca Jagger are standing shoulder-to-shoulder with rough train drivers from Aslef and Marxist-Leninists from the Socialist Workers Party. Everyone who is anyone from the soft-headed centre to the anti-democratic Left is there. All are welcome - except the people in whose name the party is being thrown: the Iraqis.
Tens of thousands might have been invited. London remains a great exile city, and for more than 20 years Kurds and Arabs have fled from Saddam's persecution to sanctuary in Britain. Yet not one of the 50 Iraqi dissident groups that met in the capital last month to organise the struggle for national liberation has been asked to join the coalition. Nor would they be thanked if they tried to gatecrash.
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The Left isn't listening
Nick Cohen
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/feb/16/foreignpolicy.iraq
The Stop the War coalition is the greatest threat to any hope for a democratic Iraq
When Saddam is sent to rendezvous with a judge in The Hague, or a rope on a lamppost, the democratic opposition in Iraq will need help. It has many enemies: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the CIA and the Foreign Office want to replace the old tyrant with a new, compliant dictator - a Saddam without a moustache. As the moment of decision arrives, Iraqi democrats and socialists have discovered that their natural allies in the European Left don't want to know them. They must add the shameless Stop the War coalition to the enemies list.
Iraq is the only country in the Arab world with a strong, democratic movement. Yet I wonder how many who marched yesterday know of the dissenters' existence. The demonstration's organisers have gone to great lengths to censor and silence. How else could the self-righteous feel good about themselves? The usual accusation when whites ignore brown-skinned peoples is that of racism. It doesn't quite work in the Stop the War coalition's case. The Socialist Workers Party, which dominates the alliance, was happy to cohost the march with the reactionary British Association of Muslims. The association had blotted its copybook by circulating a newspaper which explained that apostasy from Islam is 'an offence punishable by death'. But what the hell. In the interests of multi-culturalism, the SWP ignored the protests of squeamish lefties and let that pass. The Trots aren't Islamophobes, after all. The only Muslims they have a phobia about are secular Iraqi Muslims who, shockingly, believe in human rights.
Iraq is the only country in the Arab world with a strong, democratic movement. Yet I wonder how many who marched yesterday know of the dissenters' existence. The demonstration's organisers have gone to great lengths to censor and silence. How else could the self-righteous feel good about themselves? The usual accusation when whites ignore brown-skinned peoples is that of racism. It doesn't quite work in the Stop the War coalition's case. The Socialist Workers Party, which dominates the alliance, was happy to cohost the march with the reactionary British Association of Muslims. The association had blotted its copybook by circulating a newspaper which explained that apostasy from Islam is 'an offence punishable by death'. But what the hell. In the interests of multi-culturalism, the SWP ignored the protests of squeamish lefties and let that pass. The Trots aren't Islamophobes, after all. The only Muslims they have a phobia about are secular Iraqi Muslims who, shockingly, believe in human rights.
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In 2006, Cohen was a major supporter and signatory to the Euston Manifesto, which proposed what it termed "a new political alignment" in which the left would take a stronger stance in favour of military intervention and against what the signatories deemed to be anti-American attitudes.
He called for Western military intervention almost from the beginning in Syria.
He supported the disastrous 2011 NATO war in Libya that left the country (at the time the highest standard of living in all of Africa) in shambles.
Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
