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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 05:40 PM Jun 2019

Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but---

---the "official" line from Trumpville is that the Iranians or their agents fired surface to air missiles at two US drones. Supposedly, one missile destroyed a drone, the other missed and fell into the sea.

I assume these drones were sent up, at least in part, to observe; to send video back to US monitors which showed what was happening and who was in the area.

Where is the video? Where is the video showing one drone go "poof" and one dodging the "bullet" that whizzed past?

Wouldn't that be pretty dramatic corroboration for the Pompeo version of events? IF that's what really happened.

Or---here's a thought---maybe those videos just don't exist YET.

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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. I almost said the same thing yesterday ... but didn't want a vid to show up
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 05:45 PM
Jun 2019

Basically I didn't want to jump the gun ... but yeah ... safe bet that the way they'd know that the drones were shot at was cause they had video, right?!?

And to me this story makes the idea that the Iranians just went ahead and attacked the ships ... even though they KNEW they were being watched ... even harder to believe.

Not to mention they'd likely have assumed it was a US or Israeli drone ... which makes shooting the aircraft out of the sky a potential Act of War unless it's on their home soil.

Trump's shit don't add up to me ...

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Also stories about how the Iranian
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 05:46 PM
Jun 2019

Coast Guard sent boats to retrieve the Seaman who abandoned ship and were in Liferaft's within minutes of the first explosion. Remember,zero loss of life.

trev

(1,480 posts)
4. The owners of the ships
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 05:47 PM
Jun 2019

have said the crew saw a flying object before the explosion. That may have been a drone. Or a missile. The video is not clear enough to determine anything.

I don't doubt we were surveilling them. But whose missile might it have been? A drone is the perfect vehicle for guiding such an attack.

Not that I'd accuse the US of attempting to start a war. Again.

Speaking of videos, who made that? And why? And why is it reminiscent of the old 50s UFO photos--instead of being the razor sharp technology the drones themselves carry?

Lots of questions around this incident.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
6. I agree. "They" have made us question almost everything they do.
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 05:56 PM
Jun 2019

It seems to me that they have an itch that needs to be scratched. With the possibility that Trump might not win the 2020 election, I can see him pushing for a war with his name on it...legacy, and all that good stuff. Since it's been so important for him to destroy Obama's legacy, his must rank very high on the scale.



trev

(1,480 posts)
8. While I agree with that sentiment,
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:03 PM
Jun 2019

I'd rather our government did that than spy on us as much as they do.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
10. Well news reported the drone was a Predator
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 08:51 PM
Jun 2019

Wiki says:The RQ-1 Predator was the primary remotely piloted aircraft used for offensive operations by the USAF and the CIA in Afghanistan and the Pakistani tribal areas from 2001 until the introduction of the MQ-9 Reaper; it has also been deployed elsewhere. Because offensive uses of the Predator are classified by the U.S., U.S. military officials have reported an appreciation for the intelligence and reconnaissance-gathering abilities of RPAs but declined to publicly discuss their offensive use.[5] The United States Air Force retired the Predator in 2018.[6]

So why was one spending it's retirement playing spook near Iran and if they were correct that is was a predator, well it gives us one possibility of where a missile could have come from...

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