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Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:11 PM

Pelosi: "I don't think there is anything more divisive we can do than to impeach a President..."




I have to agree, however, I also think that enough information is known to start an impeachment inquiry.

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Reply Pelosi: "I don't think there is anything more divisive we can do than to impeach a President..." (Original post)
Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 OP
trev Jun 2019 #1
triron Jun 2019 #2
Crunchy Frog Jun 2019 #22
triron Jun 2019 #34
InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #55
ehrnst Jun 2019 #63
grumpyduck Jun 2019 #3
InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #56
Kurt V. Jun 2019 #4
Snackshack Jun 2019 #5
InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #57
NRaleighLiberal Jun 2019 #6
cwydro Jun 2019 #17
uponit7771 Jun 2019 #20
CrispyQ Jun 2019 #59
tymorial Jun 2019 #7
PufPuf23 Jun 2019 #8
walkingman Jun 2019 #9
AncientGeezer Jun 2019 #10
uponit7771 Jun 2019 #19
Poiuyt Jun 2019 #11
BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #12
LenaBaby61 Jun 2019 #13
triron Jun 2019 #61
Bayard Jun 2019 #14
mnhtnbb Jun 2019 #15
MasterofBiscuits Jun 2019 #41
ehrnst Jun 2019 #62
cwydro Jun 2019 #16
uponit7771 Jun 2019 #18
Luciferous Jun 2019 #21
Timewas Jun 2019 #23
AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #24
StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #25
AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #28
empedocles Jun 2019 #29
Chin music Jun 2019 #26
Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #27
InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #58
Miles Archer Jun 2019 #30
Volaris Jun 2019 #39
Miles Archer Jun 2019 #44
Firestorm49 Jun 2019 #52
SHRED Jun 2019 #31
Miles Archer Jun 2019 #45
Gothmog Jun 2019 #32
Zambero Jun 2019 #33
ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #35
StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #37
NYC Liberal Jun 2019 #40
Miles Archer Jun 2019 #46
GusBob Jun 2019 #36
Volaris Jun 2019 #38
Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2019 #42
KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #43
fescuerescue Jun 2019 #47
KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #60
jalan48 Jun 2019 #48
BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2019 #49
edhopper Jun 2019 #50
Faux pas Jun 2019 #51
Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #53
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:16 PM

1. I think the evidence is quite clear and substantial.

More will come out during the inquiry.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:17 PM

2. WTF!??

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Response to triron (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 07:25 PM

22. My feelings exactly.

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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #22)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 12:26 AM

34. Where on earth is she coming from? I am beyond exasperated.

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Response to triron (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 11:26 AM

55. WTF is RIGHT!! Letting the Traitor-in-Chief off the hook is NOT the way to go!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #55)

Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:41 AM

63. When did she let him off the hook?

Did you even read the article or the full quote?

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:18 PM

3. Dear Madam Speaker,

I can give you something more divisive: letting the country continue going to hell.

Or are you saying that not doing something divisive is more important that upholding your oath of office?

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Response to grumpyduck (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 11:28 AM

56. Good question!! The rule of law should take precedence...

thought impeachment would go forward after the Mueller Report came out and outlined all the crimes the Traitor-in-Chief committed!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:18 PM

4. meh.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:24 PM

5. Yes- Impeachment.

Can be divisive but the country is already pretty divided. Certainly a concern but definitely not a gater from upholding the oath of office to defend the Constitution and enforce the rule of law.

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Response to Snackshack (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 11:29 AM

57. Exactly!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:28 PM

6. Letting the criminals get way with their crimes is more divisive

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 07:08 PM

17. This.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 07:10 PM

20. THIS !!!!

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 12:50 PM

59. Perfectly stated!





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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:31 PM

7. Impeachment is not about whether or not it is divisive

It's singular purpose is to hold the president to account for high crimes and misdemeanors. It is the stopgap to prevent corruption and despotism from occurring within the highest office of our country.

I still have faith that Pelosi and the Democrat leadership understand what they are doing and have a plan in place to hold the president accountable. At some point however action must be taken. That will be the moment of truth because even if the Senate will not support impeachment, the house has an obligation to impeach even if it is politically inconvenient and detrimental. Our constitution means nothing if it is not enforced. If the president can truly do whatever he wants without repercussion then we have installed a monarch.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:32 PM

8. And sometimes being divisive is the correct path and cannot be avoided.

Time to officially commence an impeachment inquiry. Listen to the base Pelosi and lead us.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:44 PM

9. I say go ahead with the investigations and then lock his ass up after the next election. It might be

a first but I cannot think of anyone more deserving. It is for sure the GOP Senate will never remove him.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:51 PM

10. She's 100% correct....if it's not a bullet proof deal...

Full removal.....it will embolden the Trumpanzees...

She remembers the hit we took in the '10 election because of the ACA passage.
An ass kicking of epic proportions.

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Response to AncientGeezer (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 07:10 PM

19. Removing Red Don isn't needed to hurt him politically and follow constitution.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:51 PM

11. I can't imagine the country being more divided than it is now

And I lived through the Viet Nam era. I wasn't alive during the Civil War though.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:52 PM

12. Oh well

Think Iíll take a walk.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:59 PM

13. IF she continues fooling around like she seems to be doing ...

And fatso wags the dog we're FUCKED into hell, because there will be NO changing presidents DURING a war no matter how incmopetent, evil, dumb, corrupt, racist, sexist, rotten and ignorant that president IS.

And this fucking treasonous Senate isn't going to to SHIT to stop him from wagging the dog. You see they're trying to cast blame on HILLARY/Camp for the Steele Dossier's existence

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Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 05:08 PM

61. Treasonous all of them including Trump, Pence, and Barr.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 07:02 PM

14. Emergency Phone Call for Madame Speaker!!

We can't wait any longer to impeach. Certainly not long enough to vote him out. He's doing too much damage on a daily basis.

The job here is oversight. Whether it is divisive is beside the point.

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Response to Bayard (Reply #14)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 07:04 PM

15. Yes.

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Response to Bayard (Reply #14)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 02:46 AM

41. The job is doing one's constitutional DUTY

 

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Response to MasterofBiscuits (Reply #41)

Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:01 AM

62. She is doing her job. You just don't the decisions she has

been chosen by her peers over and over again to make.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 07:07 PM

16. Yes, we're overdue for an inquiry at least.

Shitgibbon is thumbing his nose at Pelosi.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 07:09 PM

18. Kidnapping kids is pretty divisive, Red Don being a racist is pretty divisive ... etc etc

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 07:24 PM

21. Trump's behavior is pretty damn divisive!

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 07:47 PM

23. Divide??

Who will be divided from who, we are already divided from the rethugs and that is a good thing... Impeach the asshole already

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 08:02 PM

24. fear of division be taking into consideration

when trying to impeach. It is a fact based process. You are literally required to impeach him per constitution. Itís hard to predict the effects of it but not impeaching will have serious long term consequences once precedent is set.

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #24)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 08:09 PM

25. The Constitution does not require impeachment in any instance, literally or otherwise

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #25)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 08:43 PM

28. oversight

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #25)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 08:56 PM

29. I don't think the Speaker's 'subtlety' is being well understood here.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 08:40 PM

27. Really? I wonder if Madame Speaker has become out of touch with the fact that these platitudes

she puts out there only further frustrate and annoy many of the 79% of Democrats who are pro-impeachment, including myself.

I can just imagine the republicans laughing their asses off at these soundbites.



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Response to Nevermypresident (Reply #27)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 11:36 AM

58. We need impeachment NOW, not only to throw the Traitor-in-Chief out of office...

but, to give the Democratic base confidence that the Party will fight the Rethugs on every level. Who gives a shit whether impeachment will divide the country... NEWS ALERT: WE'RE ALREADY DIVIDED!!! Nothing would fire up the base like impeaching that POS illegally occupying the White House... I'm more afraid of what NOT impeaching that fuck will do to our chances in 2020!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 08:57 PM

30. I don't think there is anything more divisive we can do than to live through a second Trump term

So I tend to factor that into my thought process on impeachment.

If the plan is to vote him out in 2020, let's make damned sure we do.

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Response to Miles Archer (Reply #30)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 01:31 AM

39. If he loses he will claim the whole damned thing was Fake News...

His time in Office is the ONLY thing preventing his time in a cell..

He will not go willingly.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #39)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 10:06 AM

44. See, that's the thing...you know that, I know that...

...the 20 candidates who are going to take the debate stage know that, Speaker Pelosi knows that...

...and as much as I hate cliches, it really has come down to that moment in "The Untouchables" where, in addressing Al Capone, Sean Connery asks Kevin Costner "What are you prepared to do about it?"

I don't think for a second that we should allow Trump to have us chasing our tails in 2020, spending our entire time "defending" ourselves against him, deflecting his attacks,

Every elected official in the Democratic party got where they are right now by waging some form of a campaign. Some were more contentious than others. Some faced unconscionable attacks on every level.

NO ONE has waged a campaign that comes within a country mile of what we're about to face in 2020. It really is unprecedented. Comparisons can be drawn, but not of this magnitude, not on this level, We're going up against someone who lacks a conscience, who is totally self-serving, who has no respect for decorum or the law.

We need to prepare for it and act accordingly.

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Response to Miles Archer (Reply #44)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 11:12 AM

52. Right you are.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 09:09 PM

31. God forbid our country becomes divided!!

 

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Response to SHRED (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 10:13 AM

45. I worry about that daily!

Yes, it has become painful to hear cautionary words about us "becoming" divided.

I became "divided" the morning after election day in 2016. I have my laptop next to the bed. I followed the results until I fell asleep. When I woke up the next morning, it was to a screen declaring Trump as the winner.

I didn't have to "become" divided after that. It was my moment of "division."

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 09:58 PM

32. Impeachment is a waste of time unless we can get 20 GOP senators to vote to remove

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2019, 10:24 PM

33. Or to rephrase a bit..

There is nothing more divisive than a blatantly criminal president who sees himself as being above the law and therefore warrants impeachment.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 12:37 AM

35. You guys do see the qualifying second sentence, right?

She didn't say she wasn't contemplating it. She said we have to handle it with care. And I agree with that.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #35)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 12:47 AM

37. ...

I'm starting to think it doesn't matter what she says. It will be twisted or ignored. She could call for impeachment tomorrow and I'm sure some of the people blasting her now for supposedly blocking impeachment (which, of course, she isn't doing), won't give her a second's worth of credit for doing what they say they want her to do, but will turn on a dime and start attacking her for something else.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #35)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 01:41 AM

40. Of course not. Otherwise there would be no need for hair-tearing outrage.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #35)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 10:22 AM

46. The way she's handled it to date has made him increasingly erratic and bombastic...

...which further builds a case for his not being fit for office. There's wisdom to her strategy.

So yes, I get it...I am impatient like everyone else and I am sick of his bullshit, but yes...I saw the qualifying sentence.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 12:40 AM

36. She dont think

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 01:28 AM

38. Ummm well yes that's true...and it's time to draw a big red line ...

I know which side I stand on.

To paraphrase the great Jean-Luc:

'they invade our space, and we fall back. They advance, and we retreat. They assimilate entire worlds, AND WE DO NOTHING.'.

Nancy, the line must be drawn somewhere, and right now only you can draw it .

'This far. NO FARTHER.'.

I know which side of the line I'm on.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 03:14 AM

42. Trumputin's actions and the propaganda supporting him are more divisive

A nation destroyed is no longer divided.

We're almost there. Willing to bet there will be any future Speakers of the House?

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 04:08 AM

43. I would submit that the divisiveness can't get any worse, however....

like racism, it will rear its ugly head big-time with right-wing heads exploding. The lines of division have been hard-set for quite some time, IMO.

I feel a lot of independents and a few Republicans would drift our way and support an impeachment inquiry.

Many decent people of all political stripes are sick of this criminal enterprise. They will be even more sick when inflation gets worse and their taxes go up or if we go into a full-blown recession, or get entangled in another endless Middle East war.

KY.....

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #43)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 10:47 AM

47. Can't is a big word

I would say it was worse in 1861 - 1865

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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #47)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 04:04 PM

60. Very true.

When environmental conditions get bad enough or should another economic great depression occur, it could happen again. Can't even imagine where we'll be say, 200 years from now.

.............

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 10:52 AM

48. Well heavens! We can't be divisive. Where are our manners?

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 10:58 AM

49. The division is never going to mend without draining the infection.

We need a desperately necessary Truth Cleansing.

The brainwashed followers will tweak, thatís to be expected, but the larger population will be overjoyed, and that will have an overall stabilizing effect over time.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 11:05 AM

50. It would also have been very divisive if Obama

had prosecuted the Bush Administration criminals.

He didn't, and how did that work out for us?

Nancy, here is a clue, anything to do with Trump is divisive, so fuck it and do what is right!

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 11:09 AM

51. Yeah Nancy

just let him fuck everything up even more as he skips on down the road of no consequences.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 11:13 AM

53. It's divisive but very necessary.

Everyone keep pressuring your Reps to open an impeachment inquiry.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 11:16 AM

54. The only thing more divisive is not impeaching him

And if the senate GOP wants to stand up with that treasonous con man let 'em.

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