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kentuck

(111,053 posts)
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 11:30 AM Jun 2019

"Strong and wrong defeats weak and right".

This was a message propounded durimg the Clinton Administration.

The Speaker says that Trump does not know right from wrong?

In other words, we should not attempt to remove the matches from a known arsonist. We should wait for the next election and let the voters decide. There is no preventative strategy in the interim.

The known arsonist is permitted to continue to play with matches. It is a constant threat that is not being addressed.

In the end, most historians will interpret it as a sign of weakness and political expediency, in my opinion.

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"Strong and wrong defeats weak and right". (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #1
The problem is the only agency with authority to bring down a criminal President ... marble falls Jun 2019 #2
That quote doesn't really apply to this case Renew Deal Jun 2019 #3
We don't know and I don't care how most historians view us marylandblue Jun 2019 #4
This. CrispyQ Jun 2019 #5
+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #6

Response to kentuck (Original post)

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
2. The problem is the only agency with authority to bring down a criminal President ...
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 11:40 AM
Jun 2019

Trump in light of a fixed GOP Senate is voting Americans.

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
3. That quote doesn't really apply to this case
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 11:44 AM
Jun 2019

"When people are insecure, they'd rather have somebody who is strong and wrong than someone who's weak and right,"

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. We don't know and I don't care how most historians view us
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 11:45 AM
Jun 2019

They aren't us, we aren't them. My entire view of history and politics has changed, and I can pinpoint almost to the day it changed. It was around October 2015, when it started to become clear Trump wasn't sinking in the polls as so many expected.

I do know quite a bit of history. And I knew what his rise meant, even if he lost in 2016. And now I know what it's like to be them, why they made the choices they made, why they couldn't change course even if they saw what was coming. God have mercy on us.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
5. This.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 12:16 PM
Jun 2019

Trump is the symptom.

Too many think it can't happen here even as it's happening before our eyes.

The GOP has been courting bigots ever since I became politically active & our for-profit "news" agencies are loyal to their bottom line, not our Constitution & certainly not to any set of morals, or they would have shamed Sarah Palin & her racist rhetoric off the GOP ticket, but they did not. They put the teaparty on the nightly news & the front pages of their papers & amplified their voice. The bigots are not just emboldened, they are in positions of power & influence in our federal government.

We are on a precipice and could topple either way. I personally think that by not starting impeachment proceedings we risk losing the House in 2020 & the WH along with it. OTOH, I can understand the argument that impeachment could have the opposite affect. We just don't fucking know & damn, is that hard to live with.

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