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Sun Jun 16, 2019, 05:42 PM

Convicts are returning to farming - anti-immigrant policies are the reason

Convict leasing for agriculture a system that allows states to sell prison labor to private farms became infamous in the late 1800s for the brutal conditions it imposed on captive, mostly black workers.

Federal and state laws prohibited convict leasing for most of the 20th century, but the once-notorious practice is making a comeback.

Under lucrative arrangements, states are increasingly leasing prisoners to private corporations to harvest food for American consumers.

https://theconversation.com/convicts-are-returning-to-farming-anti-immigrant-policies-are-the-reason-117152



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Reply Convicts are returning to farming - anti-immigrant policies are the reason (Original post)
yortsed snacilbuper Jun 16 OP
underpants Jun 16 #1
yortsed snacilbuper Jun 16 #3
underpants Jun 16 #2
Merlot Jun 16 #6
Flaleftist Jun 17 #15
malaise Jun 16 #4
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 16 #5
Merlot Jun 16 #7
customerserviceguy Jun 16 #8
Peacetrain Jun 17 #12
customerserviceguy Jun 17 #14
Jose Garcia Jun 16 #9
Beringia Jun 16 #10
Jose Garcia Jun 17 #11
Beringia Jun 17 #13

Response to yortsed snacilbuper (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 05:44 PM

1. Linky bad

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Response to yortsed snacilbuper (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 05:46 PM

2. So states are renting out convicts?

Is that what I'm to understand?

I know they do for firefighting.

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Response to underpants (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 06:53 PM

6. I think it's different for fire fighting

The prisoners have to meet really high standards to become firefighters, plus they will need to be trained. Picking produce is something anyone can do.

Prisoners are already being rented out to answer phones, etc. It's disgusting what corporations will think of to cut labor costs.

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Response to Merlot (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 17, 2019, 05:57 PM

15. They also get time off their sentence and can later get jobs in fire service.

This leasing of farm labor by private corporations reminds me of warden Norton in Shawshank.

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Response to yortsed snacilbuper (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 06:09 PM

4. Slavery is still slavery

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Response to yortsed snacilbuper (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 06:14 PM

5. Prison labor is slave labor.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 06:53 PM

7. Agreed.

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Response to yortsed snacilbuper (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 07:56 PM

8. One hundred years from now

do you really think we will have humans working in fields to grow our food? Remember, a hundred years ago, most farms were worked with horses rather than tractors. Tractors were available in the 1920's, but only well-off farmers could afford them. We finally had more tractors than horses in the field in the early 1940's, when WWII absorbed a lot of farm laborers.

If it were not for the exploitation of cheap undocumented workers, we would be well on our way to developing the robots that will plant, tend, and harvest our food in the 22nd Century.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:32 AM

12. Not even 100 years ago.. My Grandpa plowed with a horse

and the bathroom was the path out back.. just saying.. it has not been that long ago, 60 years back.. and no my Grandpa and Grandma were not back to the earth types.. it is just that things have moved a lot quicker than most realize.. plastics the bane of our existence.. since the 60's.. I bet you a dollar to a doughnut.. at least 1/2 the people on DU remember when paper straws were the norm not the up and coming new thing ..

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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 17, 2019, 05:46 PM

14. And the Amish still do it that way

But, they are the exception. At some point, perhaps difficult to predict when, we will have solar powered machines that do the backbreaking work of agriculture. It won't be convicts, and it won't be undocumented workers.

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Response to yortsed snacilbuper (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:34 PM

9. Thank you Jimmy Carter!

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Response to Jose Garcia (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 16, 2019, 10:07 PM

10. Why are you thanking Jimmy Carter?

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Response to Beringia (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:25 AM

11. He signed the Justice System Improvement Act of 1979,

which, according to the article, relaxed restrictions on convict leasing.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:57 AM

13. Thanks

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