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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:01 AM Jun 2019

Shouldn't Trump have asked about possible death toll earlier than 10 minutes before the strike?

Shouldn't the president have asked about the possible death toll earlier than 10 minutes before the strike?






Trump Confirms He Stopped Attack on Iran
June 21, 2019 at 9:21 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 35 Comments

President Trump confirmed that his administration had readied a series of strikes against Iran in response for shooting down an unmanned drone, but that he stopped it at the last moment.

Tweeted Trump: “We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights [sic] when I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it, not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone.”

https://politicalwire.com/2019/06/21/trump-confirms-he-stopped-attack-on-iran/

"It was unclear why Mr. Trump would have been getting information about possible casualties so late in the process of launching military action. Such information is typically discussed early in the deliberations..."



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Shouldn't Trump have asked about possible death toll earlier than 10 minutes before the strike? (Original Post) kpete Jun 2019 OP
THousands would have been a better answer...... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2019 #1
Pooty advised him to back down. CrispyQ Jun 2019 #11
Desperately trying to seem human. Polly Hennessey Jun 2019 #2
Yes, this story was probably phony customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #28
he wanted more deaths..would play longer on the news! samnsara Jun 2019 #3
A. Who wouldn't know there would be casualties? B. Sounds like BS underpants Jun 2019 #4
Putin had to call and remind him dumbcat Jun 2019 #5
He is lying as usual, or he wasnt paying attention to the briefing GusBob Jun 2019 #6
Cocked, loaded and completely clueless C_U_L8R Jun 2019 #7
Even Kim Jong-un is smarter than this FakeNoose Jun 2019 #25
Casualty estimate must have been on page 2 of the plan. bigbrother05 Jun 2019 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #9
Who would believe anything Trump says? procon Jun 2019 #12
K&R for, just an ass covering attempt. SHITLER is crapping his pants. UTUSN Jun 2019 #13
One would think that the military would give him collateral damage figures...? spanone Jun 2019 #14
It's a lie - he used that excuse for changing his mind. Claritie Pixie Jun 2019 #15
I think this is the most rational answer. He lies about everything. spanone Jun 2019 #16
With Trump, it's best to assume everything he tweets or says is a lie subterranean Jun 2019 #18
Humpty Trumpty says :: Cocked and Loaded? I got a translation for him. MFGsunny Jun 2019 #17
Republicans must be total dumbf*cks if they can't see through him by now elias7 Jun 2019 #19
"sights" (sic)? What a moran jpak Jun 2019 #20
Who believes this sociopath cares about 150 dead Iranians? Arazi Jun 2019 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #23
oh please - that's just the excuse they're using for the media NewJeffCT Jun 2019 #22
Yes. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jun 2019 #27
CNN interviewed a person familiar with the kind of briefing a POTUS would get Vinca Jun 2019 #24
Remember: Trumpy lies about everything. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2019 #26
"I really just make this stuff up as we go along" struggle4progress Jun 2019 #29
I'm sure the military people would have told him when they briefed him The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #30

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
1. THousands would have been a better answer......
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:03 AM
Jun 2019

The death of any civilian would have been too much. A war with Iran is folly. For Russia is a major ally with Iran in so many ways. Putie would not like that.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
28. Yes, this story was probably phony
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jun 2019

Or, some high-ranking Pentagon muckety-muck refused to carry out the orders, and Trump is trying to save face by making it look like it was his decision to avoid the embarrassment of having to fire a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, or all of them, for that matter.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
4. A. Who wouldn't know there would be casualties? B. Sounds like BS
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:12 AM
Jun 2019

They had to come up with a cover and that’s the best they could do. He’s all loving and caring now.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
6. He is lying as usual, or he wasnt paying attention to the briefing
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:19 AM
Jun 2019

its all backwards. The military would have told him right up front in the briefing the anticipated death toll

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
8. Casualty estimate must have been on page 2 of the plan.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:24 AM
Jun 2019

Every strike plan includes a projected death toll, he or his briefer just didn't pay attention.

Response to bigbrother05 (Reply #8)

Response to kpete (Original post)

procon

(15,805 posts)
12. Who would believe anything Trump says?
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:51 AM
Jun 2019

The odds are that he's lying. Look at his past history regarding Muslims and people from the ME; he hates the lot of 'em.

Whatever the real reason for Trump's last minute cancellation of his first war, it must be something so terrible he's trying to keep it hidden. The best excuse he could come up with on the spur of the moment was this totally out of character, sudden bout of humanitarian benevolence.

No one is buying it.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
17. Humpty Trumpty says :: Cocked and Loaded? I got a translation for him.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:35 AM
Jun 2019


Cocked = More like cock-handled by Putin.

Loaded = uptick on adderall dosage

Amiright or amiright?

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
21. Who believes this sociopath cares about 150 dead Iranians?
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 12:50 PM
Jun 2019

Nobody.

He was told the casualty rate first thing. This is just a lie like the thousands of others

Response to Arazi (Reply #21)

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
22. oh please - that's just the excuse they're using for the media
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jun 2019

the real story is that Putin told him not to do it

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
24. CNN interviewed a person familiar with the kind of briefing a POTUS would get
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 01:20 PM
Jun 2019

and he said the very first slide in the presentation would include the estimated number of fatalities. Don probably wasn't paying attention since it wasn't in Little Golden Book-style pictures.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
26. Remember: Trumpy lies about everything.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 01:36 PM
Jun 2019

There's a strong likelihood that he made the 150 number up, and that Putin told him to stop the shit.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
30. I'm sure the military people would have told him when they briefed him
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 01:44 PM
Jun 2019

about the strike - they'd have told him what the likely outcome would have been, including human casualties. No way Trump gives a damn about killing 150 Iranians. He does give a damn about Putin's warning.

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