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babylonsister

(171,032 posts)
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:33 AM Jun 2019

"Cocked and loaded" to strike Iran, Trump says he called off operation when told 150 would likely di

Wait! He has a conscience?


"Cocked and loaded" to strike Iran, Trump says he called off operation when told 150 would likely die
By Kathryn Watson
Updated on: June 21, 2019 / 9:35 AM / CBS News


President Trump said the U.S. military was "cocked and loaded" to retaliate against Iran on three different sites Thursday night, but called off the operation after learning 150 people would likely die from the strike. Mr. Trump, explaining his decision on Twitter, said the response would have been "not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone."

As CBS News has reported, the president ordered the drone strike Thursday night, but backed down, avoiding — for now — a significant escalation of tensions between Iran and the U.S.

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"Cocked and loaded" to strike Iran, Trump says he called off operation when told 150 would likely di (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2019 OP
Gee, we always used to say "Locked and loaded"... Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #1
"Half cocked" pretty well describes Trump. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2019 #2
Please Don't Use The Words Trump and Cock in The Same Sentence...... COL Mustard Jun 2019 #12
I hear you! WhiteTara Jun 2019 #21
Mario Kart-cocked Celerity Jun 2019 #19
Uncle Putin said, "Nyet" n/t Yavin4 Jun 2019 #3
Isn't cocked and loaded redundant? C_U_L8R Jun 2019 #4
No. they are two separate actions related to preparing a self-loading semi-automatic rifle to fire. Aristus Jun 2019 #8
That's locked and loaded. C_U_L8R Jun 2019 #10
Yea, I caught that. Aristus Jun 2019 #11
I suppose one could load rounds into the cylinder of a single (or double) action revolver sop Jun 2019 #16
Another lie no_hypocrisy Jun 2019 #5
Yup--it's laughable to think he actually cared about people on the ground. shanny Jun 2019 #6
Putin told him NO WhiteTara Jun 2019 #22
So, 150 deaths were too many or too few? Srkdqltr Jun 2019 #7
I say this again!!! Next he will want the Nobel Peace prize for preventing war. katmondoo Jun 2019 #9
Oh please Butterflylady Jun 2019 #13
Bullshit. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #14
Think of it terms of a self-centered narcissist ChicagoRonin Jun 2019 #15
Cooler heads prevailed sop Jun 2019 #17
I think this is the most likely scenario Mosby Jun 2019 #20
I don't believe him. subterranean Jun 2019 #18
Putin told him to call it off NewJeffCT Jun 2019 #23
How many will die from his pro-pollution stance? angstlessk Jun 2019 #24

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
8. No. they are two separate actions related to preparing a self-loading semi-automatic rifle to fire.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:54 AM
Jun 2019

'Lock' means to lock an ammunition magazine into the magazine well.

'Load' means to load a round into the firing chamber by pulling the charging handle, causing the bolt to pick up a round from the magazine, and load it into the chamber. Every single cop show in history, at least since the shift from revolvers to semi-automatic pistols in law enforcement, shows a cop plugging a magazine into his weapon, then *click-clack*, charging the pistol in a dramatic fashion.

I served in the military for seven years, but I once had a DU-er, a number of years ago, continue to argue with me about the meaning of the phrase, as if I didn't know what I was talking about.

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
11. Yea, I caught that.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:01 AM
Jun 2019

I just thought there was some misunderstanding regarding the phrase at non-stupid people say it.

Shit, Trump can't even get his pseudo-tough-guy talk right...

sop

(10,100 posts)
16. I suppose one could load rounds into the cylinder of a single (or double) action revolver
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:18 AM
Jun 2019

then cock the hammer before firing.

no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
5. Another lie
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:43 AM
Jun 2019

Trump didn't want to held accountable for starting a war. He choked. And in any case, I'm glad he stopped the mission.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
6. Yup--it's laughable to think he actually cared about people on the ground.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:46 AM
Jun 2019

He's just a coward...and lazy and doesn't want to disrupt his weekend golf game.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
14. Bullshit.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:09 AM
Jun 2019

Any time you start blowing stuff up people are going to die; even dumbass Trump would know that, and he would know (or be told) that a strike on structures instead of populations is still going to kill people because those targets will be manned day and night. Trump doesn't give a rat's ass about the lives of 150 Iranians; he doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone's ass but his own. His boss Putin told him not to do it, is my guess.

ChicagoRonin

(630 posts)
15. Think of it terms of a self-centered narcissist
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:16 AM
Jun 2019

He may be dumb as a box of rocks (which is what an old banker I met who dealt with Trump actually said), but on some level his molecule mind knows that if you actually kill someone, you just opened the door for them to try and kill you. Maybe someone let him know the degree that his personal security would be stepped up if the US started dropping bombs, and how much less golf he'd have access to.

sop

(10,100 posts)
17. Cooler heads prevailed
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:22 AM
Jun 2019

The generals who actually run the country probably found out Trump had ordered a strike, rushed over to the WH and told him he couldn't play with bombs, missles and such.

Mosby

(16,259 posts)
20. I think this is the most likely scenario
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:44 AM
Jun 2019

International waters or not, drones are expendable, just ask Israel. It's just part of the business of intelligence gathering.

I think it's pretty obvious that putin has dirt on trump, because even little Israel doesn't kowtow to Russia re the ME, they overfly Lebanon, Syria and Iran all the time and attack weapon convoys heading towards Hezbo. Many of these weapon systems come from Russia.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
18. I don't believe him.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:35 AM
Jun 2019

I think this is a story he made up to make himself look good, because the real reason he backed down would have made him look bad, or weak.

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