So exactly where is "international airspace" in the Strait of Hormuz?

[jpak]

Oman and Iran split the Strait down the middle to establish their marititime boundaries...



At its narrowest, the Strait is only 21 nautical miles (nm) wide.

Iran claims its airspace extends out to 12 nm from its coastline, which leaves Oman only 9 nm at the narrows to claim as theirs.

There is no airspace at the narrows that is not claimed by either country - hence no "international airspace" there.

Here is the only airspace map of the Persian gulf I can find...



and this is the map of where the US UAV was shot down...



So, again I ask - where is "international airspace" in the Strait of Hormuz?

[Igel]

1. In that area all the water and air are subject to territorial "ownership".

However, you can think of there being necessary and adequate easements in which the seaways and air are to be freely accessible to the public, and which are in many treated as though they were international. The lingo gets really stilted really quickly when trying to make all the fine-grained distinctions, so international shipping lanes are usually just referred to as "international waters".

https://www.asil.org/insights/volume/16/issue/16/transit-passage-rights-strait-hormuz-and-iran%E2%80%99s-threats-block-passage

If Oman and Iran both decided to disallow, say, Indian planes or ships, they'd be in violation of treaty and international law.

Note that while Iran makes certain claims, barring a separate treaty delineating maritime boundaries typically the boundary is halfway in between. So an asymmetric claim usually collapses as imperialist or jingoist.

[jpak]

2. US Central Command apparently has its own territorial waters map...

[MineralMan]

3. Excellent question.

I wondered that, too. Thanks for your maps.

[CaptainJerry]

4. I am an International Airline Jet Transport Pilot. The USA is lying, AGAIN!

I am an International Jet Transport Pilot. I have 30 years plus experience certified to fly jets all over the world.

A strange thing happened to me when I was researching this post. All of the usual sites for aviation charts have Iran and Oman blocked. I spent an hour looking. Finally I had to dust off my old WAC’s (World Aviation Chart).

No International Airspace exist in the Strait!

The U.S. drone was operating illegally according to I.C.A.O. (International Aviation Civil Organization) regulations.
The military is legally required to obey this law of the sky. It did not.
That’s one violation.
The radar transponder was turned off, illegally.
That’s two violations.
The navigational and collision avoidance lighting was turned off.
That’s three violations.
The aircraft was flying at an altitude where International Flight Plans are required. There was none on file in any nation.
That’s four violations.
The aircraft was flying in controlled airspace.
That’s five violations.
The U.S. is DEAD WRONG and LYING!!

[SouthernProgressive]

5. What year are your WAC's? NT

[jpak]

8. Thank you and...

[superpatriotman]

9. Welcome to DU!

Did you decide to join just to comment on this thread?

If so, bravo and enjoy your stay!

[hack89]

10. Article 3 (a) of the Convention of Internation Civil Aviation says otherwise

Article 3 (a) of the Convention on International Civil Aviation states that “this Convention shall be applicable only to civil aircraft, and shall not be applicable to state aircraft”.

Article 3 (b) states that “aircraft used in military, customs and police services shall be deemed to be state aircraft.”

[jpak]

11. So there is no such thing as International Airspace if you are a military air vehicle?

Really?

If so - can Russian Tu-95 can fly anywhere it wants in our airspace?

[hack89]

12. No. Please read the post I was responding to

I.C.A.O. regulations do not apply to military aircraft.

Sovereign airspace is not dictated by I.C.A.O. regulations - it is simply a set of rules that facilitates international air travel across international boundaries.

Russian Tu-95s have have no internationally recognized right to violate US airspace.

[smirkymonkey]

16. Thanks Captain Jerry! Very helpful.

Welcome to DU!

[hack89]

6. Anywhere the straits exceed 24 miles in width

a narrow point starting where the US claims the drone was shot down and constantly widening as one heads south into the Gulf of Oman.

[Takket]

7. Wherever drumpf says it is

The drone could fly over Iran, the Straight or through your bedroom but as long as drumpf and his cabal are wagging the dog, the drone is wherever they say it is.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

13. *Straight of Hormuz

So sez the Donald.

Link to tweet

Donald J. Trump?Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 9h9 hours ago

China gets 91% of its Oil from the Straight, Japan 62%, & many other countries likewise. So why are we protecting the shipping lanes for other countries (many years) for zero compensation. All of these countries should be protecting their own ships on what has always been....

5:08 AM - 24 Jun 2019

[superpatriotman]

14. Don't make me agree with this douche

Because I do (regarding this tweet)

[Wounded Bear]

15. To do that, they would need to build navies competitive to ours...

Do you see the problem there?