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Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:48 PM

I'm getting depressed.... I feel like evil is winning...

This can't really be how it all ends up right?
I can't imagine that this many crimes - humanitarian crimes, financial crimes, election crimes, sexual crimes....I mean my God he's committed almost every type of crime there is!

Is this it? How in the hell do we hold our heads high anymore? How do we act like America is a great country anymore?

Jesus Christ this is fucking horrific!!

The corruption runs so deep..... It seems like at least half the Republican party if not more is part of it..... How the fuck do we get out of this situation??

I cannot believe that another country can install their choice as president and there is literally nothing we can do about it but vote him out which they'll make sure that doesn't happen anyway .... can this fucker really do whatever he want and all the rest of them too?


I can't handle this shit......

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Reply I'm getting depressed.... I feel like evil is winning... (Original post)
TalenaGor Jun 2019 OP
applegrove Jun 2019 #1
Boomerproud Jun 2019 #2
SharonAnn Jun 2019 #39
Hoyt Jun 2019 #3
angrychair Jun 2019 #13
Hoyt Jun 2019 #31
Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #4
Kath2 Jun 2019 #5
BigmanPigman Jun 2019 #6
Kath2 Jun 2019 #7
CountAllVotes Jun 2019 #8
Kath2 Jun 2019 #9
AllyCat Jun 2019 #16
Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #10
rusty quoin Jun 2019 #11
Skittles Jun 2019 #15
rusty quoin Jun 2019 #22
Skittles Jun 2019 #24
lunatica Jun 2019 #12
mfcorey1 Jun 2019 #29
SharonAnn Jun 2019 #40
Skittles Jun 2019 #14
GReedDiamond Jun 2019 #17
SHRED Jun 2019 #18
rwsanders Jun 2019 #19
Duppers Jun 2019 #32
freindship 7 Jun 2019 #20
Duppers Jun 2019 #33
gopiscrap Jun 2019 #35
TalenaGor Jun 2019 #21
Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #23
jmbar2 Jun 2019 #25
Chicago1980 Jun 2019 #26
Cicada Jun 2019 #27
Duppers Jun 2019 #34
obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #28
procon Jun 2019 #30
smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #36
Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #37
Calculating Jun 2019 #38

Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:54 PM

1. Read 21 Lessons for the 21st Century:

21 Lessons for the 21st Century is a book written by bestseller Israeli author Yuval Noah Harari and published in August 2018

It goes into what we are all going through with these changes and what we have to do. We are not blind. We have the outlines of a plan.

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:56 PM

2. You are not alone.

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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 12:18 PM

39. I have been holding on since the 2016 election. Now, I'm finding it hard to hold on.

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:59 PM

3. We did something in 2018. We'll accomplish more in 2020 if we GOTV.

It would be nice to see trump locked up. But beating him, and other GOPers, at polls might be even better.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:47 PM

13. Its nice to think so

But reality has been a harsh mistress.

It not unreasonable to believe that he will use Iran to declare marshal law and suspend elections. He has been given cover by Republicans to do anything he wants with complete impunity.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #13)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 09:20 AM

31. Not the least bit concerned that will happen.

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:07 PM

4. It always seems darkest just before the dawn...

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:09 PM

5. I'm with you.

We all need to do all we can to support impeachment or VOTE this racist, sexist asshole out in 2020.

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Response to Kath2 (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:26 PM

6. Tom Steyer was on MSNBC today and

his commercials are airing tonight too. He is putting more money and planning into getting him impeached ASAP! I want him gone and buried and I don't care how it happens or in what order.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:27 PM

7. Right on!

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Response to Kath2 (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:28 PM

8. Absolutely!

Everyone that wants America OUT of this HELL must vote the ticket plain and simple!

We need to get this racist freak OUT of the White House ASAP!!!



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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:31 PM

9. Thank you.

Resist, persist and Vote!

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 12:01 AM

16. It has to come sooner than 2020.

What is happening in concentration camps is horrible!

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:37 PM

10. Get the book by Yale holocaust historian Timothy Snyder

"On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons From The Twentieth Century"

$7.95.

It will give you essential information for this moment.

But I can't understand why you are willing to accept personal or Democratic blame for this. We were attacked by a foreign adversary, and we have been under attack by RW for more than forty years, using every propaganda tool possible to conquer enlightenment.

It is what it is. What we do about it is (from the words of Paul Wellstone): "Stand up! Keep fighting!"

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:38 PM

11. Calm down there. If you give into despair you cannot win.

 

I almost did back in the Bush 43 years.

Itís true that this here is the absolutely worst president in history, but we gotta fight back. Itís all we have.

But we hope and fight. We still have the House. And if we vote in enough numbers, we get back the Senate and a Democrat as President.

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Response to rusty quoin (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:49 PM

15. in the meantime

they are free to get help from foreign adversaries, suppress the vote, stack the courts, knowing NOTHING will be done

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Response to Skittles (Reply #15)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 01:08 AM

22. So you give in too?

 

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Response to rusty quoin (Reply #22)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 01:29 AM

24. we are at quite a standstill

Dems have pretty much signaled they're afraid to do anything, banking on the voters even though we know Trump accepted help from a foreign adversary and flat out SAYS he will do so again

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:44 PM

12. Whenever I start getting depressed

I stop listening to the news or spending as much time in DU. I take a break and do things I like to do. Take a walk and listen to the sounds of everything. Reconnect with your hobbies and talents. Watch movies. Enjoy mundane things. Do some gardening. Plant flowers.

It will help a lot. Thereís no need to be steeped in this shit all the time. Itíll still be here when you get your mood stabilized.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 07:36 AM

29. I do the same.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 12:19 PM

40. Me too. Didn't watch any news over the weekend. Helped my sanity.

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:48 PM

14. people get disillusioned when they see evil winning

no one is holding them accountable so they know they can just continue business as usual

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 12:08 AM

17. The quantity of scandals which unfold from day-to-day is mind boggling...

...it's impossible for the average human/potential voter, to keep track of, and try to comprehend all of the corruption and criminality of the Trump MisAdministration. Not to mention the corruption and trump-enabling of Moscow Mitch McConnell (Mr. Chao).

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 12:37 AM

18. Bush and Cheney got away with their crimes

 

So there's that.

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 12:46 AM

19. Heck that's just politics...

Don't look at global warming or status of endangered species, conditions of our air, food and water.

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Response to rwsanders (Reply #19)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 03:05 PM

32. +100

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 12:50 AM

20. 11th commandment

 

We will win back our country because evil never really wins, I know how you feel because you have chosen the better politics.
I have a cousin who is a pod person he and I both used to think alike because we grew up together and we still are very close but his politics have turned him into something I don't recognize.
He listens to Rush and Sean everyday even when we are out via his ear phone.
He repeats the lies to me as if they were gospel and when you point out how implausible his regurgitation of false facts are he throws a hissy.
anyway we try to avoid politics he knows what I believe and he is bothered when I tell him why he believes what he believes.
anyway take heart and remember the eleventh commandment Thou shalt not get away with it.

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Response to freindship 7 (Reply #20)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 03:17 PM

33. The Bush-Cheney cabal got away with it.

I'm just livid here. Too frickin angry for that anger to turn into depression. Angry with people too stupid to know their....
Hell, people are DYING because of dumbass Republican voters!

Democrats need to hold Republican Administrations accountable. Period.

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Response to freindship 7 (Reply #20)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:52 AM

35. welcome to DU

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 12:53 AM

21. right now I have some in-laws at my house and I blocked Fox news so they've been watching CNN

But I still hear one of them making derogatory comments about Iranian people....

And the other one told my husband that 'hey all politicians lie at least this one's blatant about it not trying to hide it' and 'put a fence around your yard why not put a fence around the country what's the difference'

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 01:15 AM

23. Don't be depressed

 

Go out and do something about it.

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 01:42 AM

25. "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible takes a little longer"

There are many possible attributions for this quote, but the message is timeless.

The rule of law is under attack from many fronts, foreign and domestic. The fastest way to fix it would be unlawful - summary arrests, trials and removal from office.

The minute you do that, you are further damaging the rule of law. The only way to enforce the rule of law is to be lawful. The wheels of justice may turn more slowly than what we'd like. But to lay the proper framework for repairs, we must resolve the problems within the letter of the law.

Multiple legal actions are already underway, many of which we cannot see. Just because we cannot see it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

While we wait for the specialists to complete their work, we need to make sure that we keep new crooks out of office. Use your despair productively. Find a good candidate and volunteer in some way. While they work from the top down, we have to work from the bottom up.

No time to despair. Courage.

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 01:43 AM

26. To be in the mind of Sarandon types...

Not to say this is you... was just thinking.

Try to stay strong, it's stressful for the sane currently.

People better get their heads out off their asses and vote.

Fall in love and then fall in FUCKING LINE!!!

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 06:46 AM

27. Patience. 57% millennials are Dem only 32% Repub

In 20 years people named Trump will be going to court to have their name changed.

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Response to Cicada (Reply #27)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 03:24 PM

34. They are my hope.

My only child and all his friends are raving Liberals! I hope to live long enough to see some justice and just hope statutes of limitations don't run out first. It's probably already too late to prosecute Dick Cheney, et al.

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 06:52 AM

28. here we go......

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 07:47 AM

30. What's even worse is, how do we undo it all

and just get back to normal? When I think about the waste of time, money and effort that will be necessary to put everything to rights again, it makes me I'll.

How do we get the special interest groups, the lobbyists, the religious activists, the foreign influence and the corporate profiteers out of our government?

How do we make sure the court system is staffed by competent, fairminded and nonpartisan judges? Can we stop rightwing groups from writing designer legislation to curry favor with their elite donor lists?

What about our diminished standing among world leaders that were formerly our valued and trusted allies for decades? How to we ever recover our reputation after Trump has revealed the US as a quasi dictatorship in league with the worst despots and tyrants of the world?

I don't know the answers, but it's well past depression when my brain is on overdrive just racking up long lists of all things things we will have to fix before we can even plan to anything new. I won't live long enough to see this wondrous concept of America ever restored.


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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:09 AM

36. You are not alone.

Sometimes I think the best thing to do is to step away from politics for a while. I will watch movies or go on funny or amusing websites or just go outside and hang out w/ friends (and not talk about politics). It helps when I start to feel overwhelmed with despair.

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:12 AM

37. That's how they want you to feel...

The battle unfortunately never ends.

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Response to TalenaGor (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:26 AM

38. This country was never really all that great

I mean ffs, we had slavery for ages, then we had widespread racism for another 100+ years, then we had all kinds of government corruption from Nixon/Reagan, unjust wars like Vietnam/Iraq/etc, huge military industrial complex draining all of our funding, etc. In addition, terrible SCOTUS rulings on the commerce clause and Citizens United utterly screwed us. I mean we're great compared to the total hellholes of the world, but I would never say this country was actually 'great' in a legitimate sense.

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