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NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 11:26 PM Jun 2019

It Couldn't Happen Here - But It Already Has

The United States of America (formerly known as the Land of the Free) is running concentration camps. These camps are not housing terrorists or criminals who pose a threat to our nation’s security or the safety of its citizens; they are being used to imprison innocent children.

As though being separated from their parents isn’t traumatizing enough, these children are living in filth and squalor. They are being denied every possible human comfort or necessity – from bedding, to clean clothing, to diapers. They are being subjected to constant fear, and treatment that no animal lover would allow to befall a stray dog.

Now there is an outbreak of lice. How long before these children have their heads shaved to deal with the situation – (sound familiar?) How long before they are tattooed with numbers to keep track of their whereabouts – (sound familiar?) How long before they’re used for labour, because work sets you free – ( sound familiar?) How long before they are subjected to medical experiments in order to “pay for their keep” – (sound familiar?)

No, no, no – surely it will never come to that. That’s what Hitler’s supporters said as they watched their neighbours loaded into cattle cars. And that’s what Trump supporters are saying now – despite what’s happening right before their eyes.

The justification for these concentration camps among the Trump faithful is that the parents of these children have broken the law – which begs the question: What laws have these children broken to warrant imprisonment under inhumane conditions? By this reasoning, the children of criminals deserve to be punished.

If that be the case, why aren’t the children of Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen in jail? They’re both convicted criminals, so why are their kids not languishing in a cell somewhere – filthy, lice-infested, cut off from any contact with their law-breaking parents?

Why aren’t the children of all convicted felons being suitably punished for the sins of their fathers? Why aren’t the offspring of rapists, drug dealers, and murderers not living in concentration camps alongside the children of migrants?

I think the answer is clear. The children of black and brown “law breakers” are different from their white counterparts, and thereby less worthy of even a modicum of humane treatment.

Again, that mindset should sound hauntingly familiar, and remind all of us how the children of Jews were also deemed less worthy than their blond, blue-eyed, Germanic-looking schoolmates.

If you are turning a blind eye to how innocent children are being treated, you are no different than the “good Germans” who denied the stench of crematoriums filling the air. If you are pretending that what’s happening right now is somehow NOT happening, you are no different than the German citizens who insisted that concentration camps never existed, and were merely a myth conjured up by lying, thieving, less-than-human Jews.

If you condone the imprisonment and inhumane treatment of children – babies, toddlers, kids too young to even understand what laws they’ve allegedly broken and what threat they pose to our nation – you are as despicable as the Nazi sympathizers who also condoned such behaviour.

So embrace it, wear it, own it. We know who the collaborators among us are – and after Nazism was defeated, they didn’t fare any better than you will. This might be the opportune time for those cheering the imprisonment of migrant children to check out the living conditions in Argentina.

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It Couldn't Happen Here - But It Already Has (Original Post) NanceGreggs Jun 2019 OP
K&R 2naSalit Jun 2019 #1
You are singing my mantra on this topic. Nance real Cannabis calm Jun 2019 #52
For all of my ranting and raving about this topic, even here on DU Haggis for Breakfast Jun 2019 #59
I think you 2naSalit Jun 2019 #64
.. Demovictory9 Jun 2019 #2
You've nailed it again, my dear Nance............thank you. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2019 #3
Picture this: DENVERPOPS Jun 2019 #55
Great idea Kaiserguy Jun 2019 #60
All the while, the so-called Pro-Lifers remain silent.... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2019 #4
No. When we are talking about concentration camps we are talking about camps for Jews question everything Jun 2019 #5
With all due respect, you are wrong. jaysunb Jun 2019 #7
The people in the camps in the border can leave question everything Jun 2019 #10
Do you *seriously* believe that imprisoned TODDLERS can leave? majdrfrtim Jun 2019 #18
Problem with understanding what you read? I wrote CLAIM question everything Jun 2019 #53
Darlyn Cristabel Cordova-Valle hadn't seen her mom in 9 years. majdrfrtim Jun 2019 #68
YOU ARE WRONG -- STOP IT obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #30
In the past 75 years "Concentration Camps" refered to Nazi camps question everything Jun 2019 #54
Disgusting Traffic Interruptus Jun 2019 #48
I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. Crunchy Frog Jun 2019 #9
True. However in the past 75 years, the term "concentration camps" referred to Nazi camps question everything Jun 2019 #56
Bullshit. NanceGreggs Jun 2019 #15
The "border camps" on our soil are also obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #31
As I stated above: adults from the countries south of the border can collect the children question everything Jun 2019 #57
Other than The Bopper Jun 2019 #62
When some of my family members get so triggered they want to leave the country... Hekate Jun 2019 #21
No, you are 100% wrong -- educate yourself obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #29
Much like you claim the word holocaust malaise Jun 2019 #42
I don't think that was the intent treestar Jun 2019 #46
Many agree that these ARE concentration camps 2naSalit Jun 2019 #65
Here is a video of LOD explaining it clearly. This is well worth your time to watch and learn. Niagara Jun 2019 #66
This is the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to the USA RainCaster Jun 2019 #6
This would give a Trumpinista The Wizard Jun 2019 #8
+1 Niagara Jun 2019 #11
They have been severely traumatized. lpbk2713 Jun 2019 #12
K&R... spanone Jun 2019 #13
Exactly orangecrush Jun 2019 #14
It fits right in SHRED Jun 2019 #16
Thank you for this posting people Jun 2019 #17
And yet another poster weighs-in ... NanceGreggs Jun 2019 #19
THANK YOU. nt raccoon Jun 2019 #28
The power to protest loudly is not meaningless people Jun 2019 #40
If you are a Democrat, you can do something treestar Jun 2019 #47
YES! Those are worse crimes than anything else he has done, and who can argue for this? Liberty Belle Jun 2019 #26
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #20
You're not being clever, MadDAsHell Hekate Jun 2019 #22
I totally agree with you but do not understand why Israeli leadership arthritisR_US Jun 2019 #23
This issue isn't about Israelis ... NanceGreggs Jun 2019 #24
However, they support trump and all he does which is the same arthritisR_US Jun 2019 #25
it's a valid point stopdiggin Jun 2019 #43
Next level Nance JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #27
As the oceans rise and coastal land disappears, the powerful will protect themselves erronis Jun 2019 #49
It Is After All, The Next Step; Is It Not? emanymton69 Jun 2019 #32
Although I am very old Timmygoat Jun 2019 #33
Bravo Nancy... WiffenPoof Jun 2019 #34
The day may come Bob Loblaw Jun 2019 #35
enemies, and broken people stopdiggin Jun 2019 #45
Heartbreaking and infuriating. Glorfindel Jun 2019 #36
This is without a doubt one of your best essays. llmart Jun 2019 #37
On the list of our most shameful moments. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2019 #38
How Quickly Things Can Turn colsohlibgal Jun 2019 #39
K&R smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #41
A correction: Donnie Short Fingers supporters are NOT saying maxrandb Jun 2019 #44
trumper neighbors say "those kids got what they deserve" Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #69
This condemnation is outstanding! lunatica Jun 2019 #50
Another truly great OP Nance Gothmog Jun 2019 #51
.. Politicub Jun 2019 #58
Great post, Nance! ColesCountyDem Jun 2019 #61
k&r n/t lordsummerisle Jun 2019 #63
Another great reason to Impeach Now! JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #67

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
59. For all of my ranting and raving about this topic, even here on DU
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:15 PM
Jun 2019

NanceGreggs, your eloquence is something I am going to post everywhere. I hope you don't mind. I'm also going to print it out and distribute it at the VA hospital in Seattle this week when I see one of my MDs. I hope you don't mind that either.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
55. Picture this:
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:29 PM
Jun 2019

MASSES of peaceful crowds of people in front of EVERY Republican Senator's home and EVERY Republican House Member's home, with huge banners of pictures showing the children in their caged pens with mylar as their only warmth when sleeping on cold concrete......

It's past time.......flush them out where they live and hide out from their horrific legislation and complicity.........

AND there is no way the Main Stream Republican Owned media can NOT report on and feature that, with out showing how complicit THEY ARE in this whole mess......!!!!!!!!!!!!

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
4. All the while, the so-called Pro-Lifers remain silent....
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 11:43 PM
Jun 2019

HYPOCRITES, the lot of them!

They sooner let an innocent immigrant child die due to inhumane treatment and conditions, while they protest against doing the right thing. They are NOT Christian, nor followers of Christ.

question everything

(47,470 posts)
5. No. When we are talking about concentration camps we are talking about camps for Jews
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 11:44 PM
Jun 2019

and gays, and Jehovah witness and Romas. These are camps that were used, at best, as slave labor, but the purpose was the "Final solution " to eradicate Jews from the face of the earth.

Yes, the camps in the border are horrible but, please, do not cheapen the history of the real concentration camps, or the Holocaust, or even Hitler, by applying them to other venues.

There are still Holocaust survivors among us, there are still camps liberators among us. Talk to them, go to a Holocaust Museum - there are several in the country to learn the real story.

Until then, with all due respect, the people who use this term belittle the memory of all the victims.



jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
7. With all due respect, you are wrong.
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:00 AM
Jun 2019

What's happening is exactly what happened in pre war Germany. Those survivors and their families WISH someone would have spoken up.
These people are recreating the exact scenario the Nazis and their enablers and those who denied what was really going on stood by and let happen.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212211917

question everything

(47,470 posts)
10. The people in the camps in the border can leave
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:08 AM
Jun 2019

If someone from Mexico, or other country south of the border will claim them they can be released. Jews had only one way to leave the camp - through the gas chambers.

You, and others, may want to visit a holocaust museum to see what a real concentration camp looked.

majdrfrtim

(317 posts)
18. Do you *seriously* believe that imprisoned TODDLERS can leave?
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 01:20 AM
Jun 2019

If so, my heart aches that you -- like too many other Americans -- have no functioning moral compass.

question everything

(47,470 posts)
53. Problem with understanding what you read? I wrote CLAIM
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:24 PM
Jun 2019

Adults from the Mexico, and Honduras and Guatemala can come and claim them and take them to homes where they can be nurtured.

majdrfrtim

(317 posts)
68. Darlyn Cristabel Cordova-Valle hadn't seen her mom in 9 years.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 03:03 AM
Jun 2019

She came here to see her mom. She was hospitalized soon after she got here.

Her mom asked for Darlyn to be released to her.

The government refused.

She died on September 29, 2018 in our government’s custody. She was 10.

I STAND BY MY STATEMENT. Do you REALLY believe these innocent children can leave — even when someone ‘claims’ them?

If so, please explain that to this girl’s grieving parents!!!!

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
30. YOU ARE WRONG -- STOP IT
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:42 AM
Jun 2019

You are belitting everyone who has been imprisoned in all the concentration camps throughout history since the Boer War, including the folks held in concentration camps in the US NOW.

And, you are factually and ethically wrong and legally wrong.

What a horrible and misbegotten hill to die on.

You also are conflating the different camps the Nazis had. You are factually wrong there, too.

question everything

(47,470 posts)
54. In the past 75 years "Concentration Camps" refered to Nazi camps
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:27 PM
Jun 2019

Read the first paragraphs of the OP - she clearly draws parallels to the Nazi camps.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
9. I'm sorry, but I disagree with you.
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:06 AM
Jun 2019

The definition of "concentration camp" is NOT limited only to the camps run by Nazi Germany.

Concentration camps date back to the 1800's, and have been used by many countries (including the United States) for the internment of many, many different groups of people. They have NEVER been the exclusive provenance of Nazis.

You might want to check out this article. I’m a Jewish historian. Yes, we should call border detention centers “concentration camps.”

question everything

(47,470 posts)
56. True. However in the past 75 years, the term "concentration camps" referred to Nazi camps
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:29 PM
Jun 2019

And if you go back and read the first few paragraphs of the OP they clearly draw from the Nazi camps.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
15. Bullshit.
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:31 AM
Jun 2019

If you choose not to recognize the obvious similarities of Jewish children being imprisoned in Hitler's concentration camps and migrant children being imprisoned in Trump's concentration camps, that's your prerogative.

Recognizing the similarities is exactly what needs to be done. Pretending that what happened then is not the same as what's happening now is not belittling the victims of the Holocaust - it is instead a refusal to heed their warning that what happened once could happen again.

I cannot imagine anything more "belittling" of the victims of the Holocaust than to ignore their pleas to watch for the resurgence of people being victimized on the basis of their of their race, their ethnicity, their religion.

With all due respect, saying that imprisoning migrant children is somehow "different" than imprisoning Jewish children is a RW talking point.

There is no "difference" - and Trump-humpers suggesting that there IS a difference is to deny the warning that Holocaust survivors have cautioned us against for decades: Don't make the mistake of believing that what happened to us can't happen again.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
31. The "border camps" on our soil are also
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:44 AM
Jun 2019

Legally, ethically, and factually concentration camps. That poster is gobsmacking in their refusal to accept this. It is REALLY insulting to all the folks held in our concentration camps.

Saying they can leave whenever they want?! That is really, really disturbing for them to say that.

question everything

(47,470 posts)
57. As I stated above: adults from the countries south of the border can collect the children
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:32 PM
Jun 2019

Children, and adults in the Nazi camps had no such recourse.


The Bopper

(184 posts)
62. Other than
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 08:37 PM
Jun 2019

Trumpolini and his followers have literally let’s say “lost” the paperwork on which kid belongs to whom. It’s ridiculous to pretend that under any circumstances, these kids are being treated like criminals by Trumpolini and friends to do no more than terrorize the kids is just ignoring reality. You are enabling and condoning their acts.

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
21. When some of my family members get so triggered they want to leave the country...
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:08 AM
Jun 2019

You know the US is running goddamned concentration camps. Nearly all those who survived the Holocaust themselves are now dead of old age, but the sons they raised in the US can see exactly what is happening here, and it is monstrous.

Open the eyes God gave you. With all due respect.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
29. No, you are 100% wrong -- educate yourself
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:39 AM
Jun 2019

The first concentration camps were during the Boer War, for the Boers. They have been used many times since, including by Nazi Germany. But they are NOT the only ones who used these camps or who still do use these camps. The US government is now running concentration camps - they are the literal definition of them.

And, trying to limit who is "allowed" to be put into concentration camps is insulting everything, and is a very, very dangerous game to play. It is belittling what our govt is doing.

STOP IT!

malaise

(268,930 posts)
42. Much like you claim the word holocaust
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:40 AM
Jun 2019

Atlantic slavery was also a holocaust and these are concentration camps.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
46. I don't think that was the intent
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jun 2019

And the point was made that it has not gotten there yet. What happened to "never again?" We know it can happen again, but might not be exactly the same. What about calling out the run-up to it - the time where it could get worse, but just hasn't yet?

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
65. Many agree that these ARE concentration camps
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:28 PM
Jun 2019

and I have a horrible feeling that when these children "disappear, it will be because they were sold into slavery of some kind, like sex slavery. According to this administration, these people are disposable.

RainCaster

(10,866 posts)
6. This is the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to the USA
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 11:52 PM
Jun 2019

Our SCROTUS has decided to behave like any other despot from a third world country. He has no spine, works for that Putin despot, and has the tiniest weiner in all of the world.

He sees himself as a great Dad to his kids, but he has no idea how to be a father. He has shown himself to be more interested in kissing butt to third world despots than protecting his kids from the world he has created.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
12. They have been severely traumatized.
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:16 AM
Jun 2019


The effects of this brutality will remain with them for the rest of their lives.

And they did nothing wrong to deserve being treated like this.

Trump and those who do his bidding should rot in hell.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
16. It fits right in
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:34 AM
Jun 2019

Genocide of Native Americans
Slavery
Invading countries for profit
Exporting massive amounts of arms

And on and on.

What a country.

people

(624 posts)
17. Thank you for this posting
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:40 AM
Jun 2019

Our congress, and particularly Nancy Pelosi, should begin impeachment proceedings against Trump immediately solely because he imprisons young children, keeps them in deplorable conditions without soap, heat or access to bathing or clean clothing, and with no access to parents or to any caring adult. How can this be going on now in this country? How can the congress who has the power to protest loudly do NOTHING about this. Impeachment needs to begin NOW. Yes, I asked myself today whether all of us are NOW the good Germans. It sickens me.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
19. And yet another poster weighs-in ...
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 01:48 AM
Jun 2019

Last edited Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:51 AM - Edit history (1)

... about what the Democrats should be doing.

It wasn't the Democrats who put children in concentration camps - it was the Republicans.

Why aren't you demanding that THEY undo the damage their pResident has caused?

THEY have the power to withhold their support of Trump's policies - and instead THEY have rallied behind him.

The "power to protest loudly" is meaningless when the party in power is being praised for imprisoning children.

people

(624 posts)
40. The power to protest loudly is not meaningless
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:18 AM
Jun 2019

I know democrats detest what Trump is doing with these children. About a year or so ago when all of this was in the news everyday a large number of U.S. citizens were very upset about it -- even some Republicans were calling their congressional reps. Now it's not in the news much at all. Democrats have the power in Congress now to protest this very loudly and bring national attention to it. Will it do anything if democrats do that? Maybe. It's the same reason people protest in the streets - to bring attention to something, whether or not it will stop anything in the end. Republicans in congress will never do anything about this unless pushed very very hard and even then they probably won't but publicizing this might turn some T supporters or non-voters into voters. We have to do something because they won't. I am not criticizing democrats - I am saying given the situation we should be doing more and doing it very loudly.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
47. If you are a Democrat, you can do something
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:44 PM
Jun 2019

You don't have to rely on the Democrats in Congress. You sound like you are not including yourself as a Democrat.

Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

arthritisR_US

(7,287 posts)
23. I totally agree with you but do not understand why Israeli leadership
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:20 AM
Jun 2019

isn’t decrying the same thing you so aptly stated given what their decedents went through.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
24. This issue isn't about Israelis ...
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:39 AM
Jun 2019

... it's about Republicans.

Israelis didn't put children in US-operated concentration camps. Republicans did.

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
43. it's a valid point
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:06 PM
Jun 2019

Kind of have to agree. It might be slightly tangential, but it is a valid point. Could it be (gasp) that the Israelis are being just a tag hypocritical? One would think (expect?) if anyone were sensitive to the sight of an historical repeat ....?

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
27. Next level Nance
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:55 AM
Jun 2019

If they do it to one - they will do it to many.

It feels like a trial balloon for something much bigger.

How many times do I have to say we are seeing the face of evil in America. And it's not just 45 - It's all of its conscientious hateful that support it.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
49. As the oceans rise and coastal land disappears, the powerful will protect themselves
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jun 2019

by any means possible.

If we think that this influx of refugees is only because of violence, economic desperation, and hoping for a better life, the wave of people looking for higher ground, food, shelter will overwhelm any border security.

We should be prepared to welcome refugees from the coastal areas of the US also. I'll draw the line at those arriving in Mercedes from NYC however.

emanymton69

(124 posts)
32. It Is After All, The Next Step; Is It Not?
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:46 AM
Jun 2019

*
When USA was able to get away with torturing prisoners (enhanced interrogations), then the next steps naturally will follow. Holding people in concentration camps (using over-crowded cages and depriving them of humane treatment are 'just another brick in the wall') will only be a beginning.

...
"IF YOU CONDONE THE IMPRISONMENT AND INHUMANE TREATMENT OF CHILDREN – BABIES, TODDLERS, KIDS TOO YOUNG TO EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT LAWS THEY’VE ALLEGEDLY BROKEN AND WHAT THREAT THEY POSE TO OUR NATION – YOU ARE AS DESPICABLE AS THE NAZI SYMPATHIZERS WHO ALSO CONDONED SUCH BEHAVIOUR.

SO EMBRACE IT, WEAR IT, OWN IT. WE KNOW WHO THE COLLABORATORS AMONG US ARE – AND AFTER NAZISM WAS DEFEATED, THEY DIDN’T FARE ANY BETTER THAN YOU WILL. THIS MIGHT BE THE OPPORTUNE TIME FOR THOSE CHEERING THE IMPRISONMENT OF MIGRANT CHILDREN TO CHECK OUT THE LIVING CONDITIONS IN ARGENTINA. "


Your essay is outstanding. Thank you.
*

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
33. Although I am very old
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:32 AM
Jun 2019

And was just a child in the UK during WW2, I seem to remember when they marched the Jews into the gas chambers they told them they were going to a communal shower.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
34. Bravo Nancy...
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 08:29 AM
Jun 2019

You have put a clarifying punt on this outrageous act against humanity... And children no less.

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
35. The day may come
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 08:33 AM
Jun 2019

after release (if that ever happens) when a victim or a collection of victims of this treatment, will commit an act of terror against the U.S. as a result of their treatment in these concentration camps. To which Trump and his supporters will point and say, "See, we told you."

Not only is this incredibly inhumane, it is creating our future enemies.

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
45. enemies, and broken people
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jun 2019

Absolutely right. We will be dealing with these wounds, and wounded people, for a long long time. We know the struggles and heartbreak of families trying to deal with mental traumas, PTSD, attachment disorder, depression ... All the shortened and stunted lives and dreams. And we're currently whipping up a big fat pile of misery for other families to deal with down the road. Terrorists? Maybe. Prisons and broken lives and families? A dead certainty.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
37. This is without a doubt one of your best essays.
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 08:58 AM
Jun 2019

I am curious though. Have you posted this anywhere else or sent this to your local newspapers? Have you sent this to your Senators and Representatives? If your audience is only on DU, then you are preaching to the choir. Since social media seems to be the influencer of our times, is it on Twitter, Facebook, other sites?

Send it to Mitch McConnell and Kirsten Kielsen. Circulate it widely. It's truly that good of an essay.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
39. How Quickly Things Can Turn
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:01 AM
Jun 2019

I look and hear this despicable man child in the White House and still cannot believe people beyond his White Nationalist core can look and hear that and think yes, I trust him. It’s mind boggling.

It is happening here and how far it goes depends on the 2020 Elections. Those of us for truth and Democracy need to show up and vote, if you are able volunteer to help get others there.

We have to nip this in the bud. Watching him do his stupid act to his mindless mob who roar approval is sickening.

maxrandb

(15,320 posts)
44. A correction: Donnie Short Fingers supporters are NOT saying
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:19 PM
Jun 2019

"no, no, no it will never come to that here".

They are screaming and crying because it's taking too long "come to that here".

Cruelty is not an accident. It's a Donnie Shit for Brains staple... and like meth addicts, the moronic Retrumplican voters can't get enough of it.

They're like Johnny Ringo in Tombstone. They've all got a giant hole right through the middle of them, and no amount of killing or robbing or cruelty will ever fill it up.

They hate simply because they were born.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
50. This condemnation is outstanding!
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 01:14 PM
Jun 2019

This issue is what defines all of us on where we fall on the spectrum, and you make that crystal clear. Thank you!

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
67. Another great reason to Impeach Now!
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:41 PM
Jun 2019

Tar them as child abusers. And never, ever try to "work with them".

Until they give in to us on everything America needs to survive for at least 100 years. Which we can expect to take decades. We need commitment, never compromise. Please!

Yes, I'm shamelessly begging for a fight.

And it feels great!

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