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Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:45 PM

Since not ONE ICE-BP-staff worker has come forward to blow the whistle on the camps, how about this:

I just don’t think this is the worst of it.
Get whistleblowers from inside facilities.
Offer money and attorneys to protect them.
Get video from them.”





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Reply Since not ONE ICE-BP-staff worker has come forward to blow the whistle on the camps, how about this: (Original post)
Leghorn21 Jun 2019 OP
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #1
malaise Jun 2019 #2
TreasonousBastard Jun 2019 #5
atreides1 Jun 2019 #6
TreasonousBastard Jun 2019 #7
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #8
trof Jun 2019 #10
MsLeopard Jun 2019 #15
Kurt V. Jun 2019 #3
we can do it Jun 2019 #4
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2019 #9
Leghorn21 Jun 2019 #11
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2019 #12
Leghorn21 Jun 2019 #13
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2019 #14
Glimmer of Hope Jun 2019 #16
Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #17
sarabelle Jun 2019 #18

Response to Leghorn21 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:03 PM

1. Judge Tashima, it is reported, was in the WW2


internment caps as a boy.
That so called Admin. lawyer is a moron.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:07 PM

2. A moron

That's a fucking monster

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:29 PM

5. The caption says Justice Dept, so I don't think she had a choice. And since the position is...

indefensible, I can't blame her much for doing a lousy job defending it.

Unless, of course, she really believes what she's saying.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:16 PM

6. She had a choice

She could have taken a stand and resigned...but that would have required courage...something the current DOJ doesn't seem to hav much of!!!

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:40 PM

7. False choice. Why should she fall on her sword? What would be gained?

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:50 PM

8. A swift flash of integrity. n/t

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:07 PM

10. Thare ya go! Thank you.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:26 PM

15. I heartily agree

But what about her family situation. I don’t know, but maybe she’s the sole breadwinner for her family, and she needs the job. And, like someone above said, maybe she fell on the sword by lamely defending the argument. Did she know she was blowing it? 😐 IDK I just tend to hope she was trying to her job, as it is under this horrible administration.

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Response to Leghorn21 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:21 PM

3. Historically, govt isn't particularly kind to whistle blowers

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Response to Leghorn21 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:22 PM

4. Freaky dead eyes on that woman.

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Response to Leghorn21 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:57 PM

9. What kind of information are you hoping to get? There's already plenty to act on.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:12 PM

11. I agree somewhat, Whiskey, and the stories coming out in just the last week are raising public

awareness in a huge way - GOOD

but some videos from inside the shitholes would help even more...also, if someone/some people had brought out videos from throughout the last year, maybe a lot of these horrors could had been
exposed, and maybe we could have avoided some of this misery

Senator Jeff Merkley first tried to enter the Southwest Key camp in June of last year...and since then, the doors to the camps have essentially been closed up tight

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:39 PM

12. "Some videos would help even more"...to do what?

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:57 PM

13. To show, on everyone's tv, the reality of what is happening the camps

There was one child-mother who took her baby in there, because the baby got the flu. And then the mother, because she was in there caring for the child, got the flu as well. And so then she was there for a week, and they took the baby out and gave the baby to an unrelated child to try to take care of the child-mother’s baby. Sorry, I was trying to remember where I was going with that.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/inside-a-texas-building-where-the-government-is-holding-immigrant-children

She said an 8-year-old taking care of a very small 4-year-old with matted hair couldn’t convince the little one to take a shower.

“In my 22 years of doing visits with children in detention, I have never heard of this level of inhumanity,” said Holly Cooper, who co-directs University of California, Davis’ Immigration Law Clinic and represents detained youth.

https://www.apnews.com/46da2dbe04f54adbb875cfbc06bbc615

Basically, what we saw are dirty children who are malnourished, who are being severely neglected. They are being kept in inhumane conditions. They are essentially being warehoused, as many as 300 children in a cell, with almost no adult supervision.

We have children caring for other young children. For example, we saw a little boy in diapers — or he had no diapers on. He should have had a diaper on. He was 2 years old. And when I was asked why he didn't have diapers on, I was told he didn't need it.

He immediately urinated. And he was in the care of another child. Children cannot take care of children, and yet that's how they are trying to run this facility. The children are hardly being fed anything nutritious, and they are being medically neglected.

We're seeing a flu outbreak, and we're also seeing a lice infestation. It is — we have children sleeping on the floor. It's the worst conditions I have ever witnessed in several years of doing these inspections.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-firsthand-report-of-inhumane-conditions-at-a-migrant-childrens-detention-facility

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:06 PM

14. I don't think there's a critical mass of people knowing about what's going on to spark action.

It'll take a critical mass of action. And there are plenty of things you and I can do depending on our time, resources and capacity: Donate money, call/write/email our representatives, organize a fundraiser, organizing a writing party, organize a march, etc.

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:48 PM

16. I agree that videos and photos would help spark

outrage. I am afraid these facilities run really tight ships full of Nazis if no photos or videos have been leaked yet.

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Response to Leghorn21 (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:29 AM

17. Nuremberg trials for them all, down to low paid contract employees.

Nobody gets off just because they were "following orders"

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Response to Leghorn21 (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:42 AM

18. To me, the fact that no whistleblowers have come forward means the insiders approve of what is going

 

on. Many of these people are in ICE to have authority over those "others."

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