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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA social network for knitting just made every other website look like goddamn cowards
Link to tweet
Sunday, June 23rd 2019
We are banning support of Donald Trump and his administration on Ravelry.
This includes support in the form of forum posts, projects, patterns, profiles, and all other content. Note that your project data will never be deleted. We will never delete your Ravelry project data for any reason and if a project needs to be removed from the site, we will make sure that you have access to your data. If you are permanently banned from Ravelry, you will still be able to access any patterns that you purchased. Also, we will make sure that you receive a copy of your data.
We cannot provide a space that is inclusive of all and also allow support for open white supremacy. Support of the Trump administration is undeniably support for white supremacy.
Policy notes:
You can still participate if you do in fact support the administration, you just cant talk about it here.
We are not endorsing the Democrats nor banning Republicans.
We are definitely not banning conservative politics. Hate groups and intolerance are different from other types of political positions.
We are not banning people for past support.
Do not try to weaponize this policy by entrapping people who do support the Trump administration into voicing their support.
Similarly, antagonizing conservative members for their unstated positions is not acceptable.
[link:https://www.ravelry.com/content/no-trump|
Heh. Well done them. A whole of nasty knitters are about to get their knickers in a twist!
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,910 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,158 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(9,910 posts)One of her creations on it. So it's kind of personal to me, LOL.
johnp3907
(3,729 posts)She tells me this is in response to one person posting patterns that can be labeled hate speech.
nolabear
(41,928 posts)I just cant...
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)That sounds like a Trump supporter
johnp3907
(3,729 posts)Like a hat that looks like a brick wall with Build the wall written on it.
My wife is on there right now laughing at all the supposed white Christian knitters who just logged on to Ravelry for the first time today telling everyone they are going to boycott them!
Your missus is right to laugh! I want that build the wall hat. I need it for a meme!
johnp3907
(3,729 posts)Not sure if she can find a picture.
But please thank Mrs John for trying
johnp3907
(3,729 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Soooo have to do something that mocks it....hhhhmmmm
Thank your dear wife please!
RainCaster
(10,806 posts)yellowdogintexas
(22,214 posts)I have found several neat looking items there.
Good for them to keep this junk off their site
Yavin4
(35,408 posts)This need to be superior is really a mental illness.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)that they took the language of the ban almost verbatim from a role-playing game site I frequent. RPG.net banned any posts in support of the administration a few months back, and it clearly theres enough crossover in the hobby that our silly little elfgame forum inspired Ravelry.
Much of this policy was first written by a roleplaying game site, not unlike Ravelry but for RPGs, named RPG.net. We thank them for their thoughtful work.
A win for social justice.
TechnocratJT
(1 post)We like we got credit of course, but mostly hope it spreads.
radical noodle
(7,996 posts)but good for them for doing this.
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)Bookmarked it and will got back and try again.
DemoTex
(25,387 posts)Seriously ..
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Pouring balm upon the waters, etc.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)One giant leap for mankind.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)One small stitch for women and men like Rosie Greer and
One large schematic for humankind?
😊
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)I wouldn't be surprised. That man has broken so many barriers in his life time. What an amazing fellow he is !
Years ago, I was flying between FL and WA and the man next to me pulled out yarn and a crochet hook. I was gobsmacked. I remained silent until I could stand it no longer and asked him about his project. It was a sweater. He explained that he took up crochet to settle his nerves and "enhance his calm." He said that he used to have a horrible temper and wanted to lose it, so he learned to crochet. It must have worked.
yellowdogintexas
(22,214 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:37 PM - Edit history (1)
I could be wrong though.
There is a kid out on the internet that is a genius with a crochet hook.
I find crocheting to be calming. In these horrid times I am enjoying it.
Response to Soph0571 (Original post)
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NewEnglandAutumn
(184 posts)My go to spot for hunting for new projects. Just sent them some $$ to show my support.
airmid
(500 posts)Stryst
(714 posts)This is based on the policies put in place by rpgnet. Amazing example of socially positive collaboration.
Edit: I realize while I was working out my post this info was posted above.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)in membership between DU and rpg.net.
dalton99a
(81,372 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,297 posts)I am a member of Ravelry (for the past 7 or so years and have been on Crochetville much longer). Mostly lurk nowadays and grab patterns but I agree that some subjects like politics just don't belong on non-political websites.
Thekaspervote
(32,687 posts)Initech
(100,026 posts)We have a section for off topic, non tech stuff and the administrators had to institute a no political speech policy after the off topic forum got too toxic to handle. Great for Ravelry for not going down that road.
Irishxs
(622 posts)912gdm
(959 posts)I used to frequent a rock tumbling/lapidary forum until it became toxic when a few of the people went full trump.. Of course I was a 'libtard snowflake' cause I didn't feel like seeing their shit when all I wanted to do was look at pictures of pretty rocks
msdogi
(430 posts)Long time member of this community, very happy with the administrators for this.
Knitting is a peaceful craft, doubt the haters on the right have much interest.
Ilsa
(61,688 posts)Been a member of Ravelry for six or seven years. Great site. Glad they aren't allowing political speech and bots on their site.
SCantiGOP
(13,862 posts)and take up knitting
Aristus
(66,270 posts)She's a devoted knitter and a die-hard fan of Ravelry founder Stephanie Pearl-McPhee.
She told me the news this morning, and was so proud that McPhee and the knitting community at-large were opposing Trumpism.
Grey
(1,581 posts)Husband and wife Casey and Jessica Forbes founded Ravelry in May 2007. Their idea was to create a web presence for all fiber artists. Ravelry is a place for knitters, crocheters, designers, spinners, and dyers to keep track of their yarn, tools and pattern information, and look to others for ideas and inspiration.
Ravelry - Wikipedia
While I love and follow Stephanie Pearl-McPhee she is not a founder. She is one of the first to join and has been a great supporter. Say Hi, to Mrs. Aristus from another raveler.....
Cheers
I was under the impression that she had founded Ravelry.
get the red out
(13,460 posts)I loved Ravelry already, this makes me love on a whole new level!
Greybnk48
(10,162 posts)and we are a group of strong, wise women. I'm so proud of this announcement I could pop!
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)I was rather shocked to see the announcement - but in a good way!
Ravelry is HUGE - used by knitters/crocheters all over the world. That message is going to be seen by a LOT of people.
yellowdogintexas
(22,214 posts)I just returned to yarn work after many years. I find it soothing in these dire times. It all started when I wanted to make something for my new granddaughter who is arriving in August.
I managed to crochet a cribsized coverlet.
There is talk on DKos of forming a DK group within the site.
Mme. Defarge
(8,006 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)There are so many lovely new patterns for shrouds.
Staph
(6,251 posts)I couldn't be prouder of them for this stance.
And isn't it interesting how creative people don't tolerate repressiveness and bigotry!
dweller
(23,605 posts)straight jacket and prison togs ..
✌🏼️
notinkansas
(1,096 posts)It seems that anti-Trump things aren't banned. Such a pattern is posted there tonight.
Grey
(1,581 posts)Casey asked us, well before trump was elected, not to go political. He wanted to remain apolitical. In my experience, They have been more than fair. Ravelry has more than 8,500,000 members world wide. My membership number is about 32,600. I have no idea what year that was. This is the best and kindest group I have ever 'met' on the internet. If there are a few nasty knitters that get their "knickers in a twist" we are fine with that. What I like is that this will mean more people will hear about us and sign up to play with sticks and string or join us as happy hookers... Cheers
IrishEyes
(3,275 posts)It is the place to go for knitting ides and patterns. I have made several things from patterns that I found on there.
Irishxs
(622 posts)Mme. Defarge
(8,006 posts)Just sayin...
raccoon
(31,105 posts)madaboutharry
(40,181 posts)They are a great resource and have a global following. I like them even more now!
Uncle Joe
(58,260 posts)Thanks for the thread Soph.
TrogL
(32,818 posts)kcr
(15,313 posts)I knit and crochet, and have been a member for a long time. They're a great community as well as being a terrific resource. I'm not surprised they did this.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)I actually have been thinking about it for a while because if you knit wool caps I can felt them and make cool Scottish Balmorals and other types of caps to go with my kilt and whatnot. My wife wants to do crochet too so it looks like Ravelry is the place to be.
edit: Registration is temporarily closed for a few days. It's OK. Probably having to deal with assholes. I can wait.
Grey
(1,581 posts)Knittinghelp.com The people there have videos of every sort to show you in a step-by-step way every thing you need. Or we sometimes use you tube, for special stitches. Cheers
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)Thanks!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and never worry I'd have to somehow come through. Scary thought.
For anyone who wants to know what liberalism is, this example has liberalism written all over it, including their determination to be inclusive of and fair and protective to all, but standing against wrong by not allowing promotion of white supremacy on their site. We can be quite sure they vote too.
Thanks for this inspiring and encouraging post, Soph.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)The two office Church Ladies have not only forsworn the site itself (the argument in essence is, "How does Ravelry consider itself inclusive if it is excluding white supremacists?" , and are now, for reasons known only to their dull-witted little minds, avoiding knitting entirely.
Their boycott of Big Knitting has the office giggling at them.
Well, more than normal.