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Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:42 PM

A social network for knitting just made every other website look like goddamn cowards




New Policy: Do Not Post In Support of Trump or his Administration
Sunday, June 23rd 2019

We are banning support of Donald Trump and his administration on Ravelry.

This includes support in the form of forum posts, projects, patterns, profiles, and all other content. Note that your project data will never be deleted. We will never delete your Ravelry project data for any reason and if a project needs to be removed from the site, we will make sure that you have access to your data. If you are permanently banned from Ravelry, you will still be able to access any patterns that you purchased. Also, we will make sure that you receive a copy of your data.

We cannot provide a space that is inclusive of all and also allow support for open white supremacy. Support of the Trump administration is undeniably support for white supremacy.

Policy notes:

You can still participate if you do in fact support the administration, you just can’t talk about it here.
We are not endorsing the Democrats nor banning Republicans.
We are definitely not banning conservative politics. Hate groups and intolerance are different from other types of political positions.
We are not banning people for past support.
Do not try to weaponize this policy by entrapping people who do support the Trump administration into voicing their support.
Similarly, antagonizing conservative members for their unstated positions is not acceptable.


[link:https://www.ravelry.com/content/no-trump|

Heh. Well done them. A whole of nasty knitters are about to get their knickers in a twist!

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Reply A social network for knitting just made every other website look like goddamn cowards (Original post)
Soph0571 Jun 2019 OP
50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #1
TheBlackAdder Jun 2019 #27
50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #33
johnp3907 Jun 2019 #2
nolabear Jun 2019 #3
Soph0571 Jun 2019 #4
johnp3907 Jun 2019 #5
Soph0571 Jun 2019 #6
johnp3907 Jun 2019 #7
Soph0571 Jun 2019 #9
johnp3907 Jun 2019 #11
Soph0571 Jun 2019 #13
RainCaster Jun 2019 #31
yellowdogintexas Jun 2019 #41
Yavin4 Jun 2019 #8
Codeine Jun 2019 #10
TechnocratJT Jun 2019 #24
radical noodle Jun 2019 #12
TruckFump Jun 2019 #22
DemoTex Jun 2019 #14
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #63
Kurt V. Jun 2019 #15
Haggis for Breakfast Jun 2019 #16
grantcart Jun 2019 #30
Haggis for Breakfast Jun 2019 #35
yellowdogintexas Jun 2019 #42
Mosby Jun 2019 #17
NewEnglandAutumn Jun 2019 #18
ck4829 Jun 2019 #19
airmid Jun 2019 #20
Stryst Jun 2019 #21
Codeine Jun 2019 #25
dalton99a Jun 2019 #23
BumRushDaShow Jun 2019 #26
Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #28
Initech Jun 2019 #29
Irishxs Jun 2019 #52
912gdm Jun 2019 #32
msdogi Jun 2019 #34
Ilsa Jun 2019 #36
SCantiGOP Jun 2019 #37
Aristus Jun 2019 #38
Grey Jun 2019 #53
Aristus Jun 2019 #59
get the red out Jun 2019 #39
Greybnk48 Jun 2019 #40
NanceGreggs Jun 2019 #43
yellowdogintexas Jun 2019 #45
Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #54
NanceGreggs Jun 2019 #56
Staph Jun 2019 #44
Niagara Jun 2019 #46
dweller Jun 2019 #47
notinkansas Jun 2019 #50
Grey Jun 2019 #48
IrishEyes Jun 2019 #49
Irishxs Jun 2019 #51
Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #55
raccoon Jun 2019 #57
madaboutharry Jun 2019 #58
Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #60
TrogL Jun 2019 #61
kcr Jun 2019 #62
OriginalGeek Jun 2019 #64
Grey Jun 2019 #65
OriginalGeek Jun 2019 #67
Hortensis Jun 2019 #66
LanternWaste Jun 2019 #68

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:51 PM

1. K & R!

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Response to 50 Shades Of Blue (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:52 PM

27. Good! Let them create GabRavelry.com for all your Klan and German-American Volksbund needs.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #27)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:32 PM

33. Yeah! A friend of mine uses Ravelry and there's a pic of me modeling

One of her creations on it. So it's kind of personal to me, LOL.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:51 PM

2. My wife is a long time Raveller.

She tells me this is in response to one person posting patterns that can be labeled hate speech.

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Response to johnp3907 (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:55 PM

3. Knitting patterns? OFFS!!

I just can’t...

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Response to johnp3907 (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:55 PM

4. Heh. Let's knit a swastika kinda thing?

That sounds like a Trump supporter

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Response to Soph0571 (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:01 PM

5. More Trump related.

Like a hat that looks like a brick wall with “Build the wall” written on it.

My wife is on there right now laughing at all the supposed white Christian knitters who just logged on to Ravelry for the first time today telling everyone they are going to boycott them!

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Response to johnp3907 (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:05 PM

6. Hehehe

Your missus is right to laugh! I want that build the wall hat. I need it for a meme!

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Response to Soph0571 (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:08 PM

7. It's been taken down.

Not sure if she can find a picture.

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Response to johnp3907 (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:12 PM

9. Bummer!

But please thank Mrs John for trying

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Response to Soph0571 (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:16 PM

11. She found it.

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Response to johnp3907 (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:27 PM

13. That is right wing special genius!!

Soooo have to do something that mocks it....hhhhmmmm

Thank your dear wife please!

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Response to johnp3907 (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:05 PM

31. MAGA red- that's a real beauty

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Response to johnp3907 (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 08:34 PM

41. Ravelry is good for crocheters too.

I have found several neat looking items there.

Good for them to keep this junk off their site

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:09 PM

8. For some, their racial identity is the only thing that they have

This need to be superior is really a mental illness.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:13 PM

10. The best thing is

that they took the language of the ban almost verbatim from a role-playing game site I frequent. RPG.net banned any posts in support of the administration a few months back, and it clearly there’s enough crossover in the hobby that our silly little elfgame forum inspired Ravelry.

“Much of this policy was first written by a roleplaying game site, not unlike Ravelry but for RPGs, named RPG.net. We thank them for their thoughtful work.”

A win for social justice.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:36 PM

24. We are very pleased

We like we got credit of course, but mostly hope it spreads.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:21 PM

12. I see they've temporarily closed registration too

but good for them for doing this.

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Response to radical noodle (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:04 PM

22. I tried to register -- I crochet.

Bookmarked it and will got back and try again.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:33 PM

14. I need to adopt that wording for my Facebook page ..

Seriously ..

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Response to DemoTex (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 12:14 PM

63. It's an idea worth spreading.



Pouring balm upon the waters, etc.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:33 PM

15. Quite. and bravo

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:36 PM

16. That's one small step for man,

One giant leap for mankind.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:56 PM

30. How about


One small stitch for women and men like Rosie Greer and

One large schematic for humankind?

😊

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Response to grantcart (Reply #30)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:33 PM

35. Rosie Grier KNITS ?

I wouldn't be surprised. That man has broken so many barriers in his life time. What an amazing fellow he is !

Years ago, I was flying between FL and WA and the man next to me pulled out yarn and a crochet hook. I was gobsmacked. I remained silent until I could stand it no longer and asked him about his project. It was a sweater. He explained that he took up crochet to settle his nerves and "enhance his calm." He said that he used to have a horrible temper and wanted to lose it, so he learned to crochet. It must have worked.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #35)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 08:38 PM

42. I thought Rosie was a needlepointer. Edited to add: yes it was needlepoint

Last edited Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:37 PM - Edit history (1)

I could be wrong though.

There is a kid out on the internet that is a genius with a crochet hook.

I find crocheting to be calming. In these horrid times I am enjoying it.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:52 PM

18. Love Ravelry

My go to spot for hunting for new projects. Just sent them some $$ to show my support.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:52 PM

19. K&R

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:59 PM

20. The meltdown from the other side is epic....but we're the snowflakes.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:02 PM

21. No attempt to cross post...

This is based on the policies put in place by rpgnet. Amazing example of socially positive collaboration.


Edit: I realize while I was working out my post this info was posted above.

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Response to Stryst (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:49 PM

25. I'm pleased to see we have some crossover

in membership between DU and rpg.net.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:08 PM

23. Beautiful.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:49 PM

26. Wow.

I am a member of Ravelry (for the past 7 or so years and have been on Crochetville much longer). Mostly lurk nowadays and grab patterns but I agree that some subjects like politics just don't belong on non-political websites.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:53 PM

28. Ravelry is a great site! Didn't know that was going on, happy to hear they have ended the nonsense

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:54 PM

29. I'm a moderator on a tech website.

We have a section for off topic, non tech stuff and the administrators had to institute a no political speech policy after the off topic forum got too toxic to handle. Great for Ravelry for not going down that road.

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Response to Initech (Reply #29)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 12:16 AM

52. Absolutely.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:13 PM

32. Good for them..

I used to frequent a rock tumbling/lapidary forum until it became toxic when a few of the people went full trump.. Of course I was a 'libtard snowflake' cause I didn't feel like seeing their shit when all I wanted to do was look at pictures of pretty rocks

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:32 PM

34. so proud of Ravelry

Long time member of this community, very happy with the administrators for this.
Knitting is a peaceful craft, doubt the haters on the right have much interest.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:36 PM

36. Crochet-ers also, not just knitters!

Been a member of Ravelry for six or seven years. Great site. Glad they aren't allowing political speech and bots on their site.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:52 PM

37. Maybe I'll have to give up SEC football

and take up knitting

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:57 PM

38. Mrs. Aristus is a long-time member of Ravelry.

She's a devoted knitter and a die-hard fan of Ravelry founder Stephanie Pearl-McPhee.

She told me the news this morning, and was so proud that McPhee and the knitting community at-large were opposing Trumpism.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #38)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 12:53 AM

53. Not Stephanie Pearl-McPhee.

Husband and wife Casey and Jessica Forbes founded Ravelry in May 2007. Their idea was to create a web presence for all fiber artists. Ravelry is a place for knitters, crocheters, designers, spinners, and dyers to keep track of their yarn, tools and pattern information, and look to others for ideas and inspiration.
Ravelry - Wikipedia

While I love and follow Stephanie Pearl-McPhee she is not a founder. She is one of the first to join and has been a great supporter. Say Hi, to Mrs. Aristus from another raveler.....

Cheers

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Response to Grey (Reply #53)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 08:55 AM

59. Thank you.

I was under the impression that she had founded Ravelry.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:59 PM

39. Wonderful

I loved Ravelry already, this makes me love on a whole new level!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 08:11 PM

40. I'm not surprised. I've been a member of Ravelry for years

and we are a group of strong, wise women. I'm so proud of this announcement I could pop!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 08:38 PM

43. I've been registered on Ravelry for years.

I was rather shocked to see the announcement - but in a good way!

Ravelry is HUGE - used by knitters/crocheters all over the world. That message is going to be seen by a LOT of people.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #43)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:19 PM

45. I think I will be spending more time there than I have been.

I just returned to yarn work after many years. I find it soothing in these dire times. It all started when I wanted to make something for my new granddaughter who is arriving in August.

I managed to crochet a cribsized coverlet.

There is talk on DKos of forming a DK group within the site.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #43)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 01:23 AM

54. I need to log back on!

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Reply #54)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 01:37 AM

56. Indeed, citizeness.

There are so many lovely new patterns for shrouds.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 08:39 PM

44. I've been a member of Ravelry for nine years.

I couldn't be prouder of them for this stance.

And isn't it interesting how creative people don't tolerate repressiveness and bigotry!


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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:51 PM

46. K&R

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:31 PM

47. wish they would knit him an orange

straight jacket and prison togs ..

✌🏼️

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Response to dweller (Reply #47)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 12:06 AM

50. Maybe somebody will do that

It seems that anti-Trump things aren't banned. Such a pattern is posted there tonight.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:57 PM

48. Casey and his wife were on this page many years ago.

Casey asked us, well before trump was elected, not to go political. He wanted to remain apolitical. In my experience, They have been more than fair. Ravelry has more than 8,500,000 members world wide. My membership number is about 32,600. I have no idea what year that was. This is the best and kindest group I have ever 'met' on the internet. If there are a few nasty knitters that get their "knickers in a twist" we are fine with that. What I like is that this will mean more people will hear about us and sign up to play with sticks and string or join us as happy hookers... Cheers

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:59 PM

49. Ravelry is great website.

It is the place to go for knitting ides and patterns. I have made several things from patterns that I found on there.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 12:12 AM

51. Didn't see this post earlier, so there is another. Ravelry is super fabulous!!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 01:26 AM

55. Knitters rule!

Just sayin’...

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 06:07 AM

57. K&r. Nt

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 06:33 AM

58. Ravelry is a wonderful site.

They are a great resource and have a global following. I like them even more now!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:25 AM

60. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread Soph.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 10:35 AM

61. Craftygal is on Ravelry. She said this is all over TV and Twitter

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 10:50 AM

62. I love Ravelry. Good for them.

I knit and crochet, and have been a member for a long time. They're a great community as well as being a terrific resource. I'm not surprised they did this.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 12:20 PM

64. Welp, time to learn knitting

I actually have been thinking about it for a while because if you knit wool caps I can felt them and make cool Scottish Balmorals and other types of caps to go with my kilt and whatnot. My wife wants to do crochet too so it looks like Ravelry is the place to be.

edit: Registration is temporarily closed for a few days. It's OK. Probably having to deal with assholes. I can wait.

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Response to OriginalGeek (Reply #64)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 03:28 PM

65. For learning to knit go to

Knittinghelp.com The people there have videos of every sort to show you in a step-by-step way every thing you need. Or we sometimes use you tube, for special stitches. Cheers

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Response to Grey (Reply #65)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 11:09 PM

67. Will do!

Thanks!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 03:42 PM

66. :) I'd bet my friend's favorite needles this comes from a liberal or liberals

and never worry I'd have to somehow come through. Scary thought.

For anyone who wants to know what liberalism is, this example has liberalism written all over it, including their determination to be inclusive of and fair and protective to all, but standing against wrong by not allowing promotion of white supremacy on their site. We can be quite sure they vote too.



Thanks for this inspiring and encouraging post, Soph.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:39 PM

68. Ha! Two conservative co-workers of mine were triggered by this!

The two office Church Ladies have not only forsworn the site itself (the argument in essence is, "How does Ravelry consider itself inclusive if it is excluding white supremacists?", and are now, for reasons known only to their dull-witted little minds, avoiding knitting entirely.

Their boycott of Big Knitting has the office giggling at them.

Well, more than normal.

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