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rpannier

(24,329 posts)
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 01:03 AM Jun 2019

Jerry Falwell Jr seizes the torch of assholishness and goes full sprint into the lead

Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention-
The reports of the conditions for migrant children at the border should shock all of our consciences. Those created in the image of God should be treated with dignity and compassion, especially those seeking refuge from violence back home. We can do better than this.

Jerry Falwell Jr-
Who are you @drmoore ? Have you ever made a payroll? Have you ever built an organization of any type from scratch? What gives you authority to speak on any issue? I’m being serious. You’re nothing but an employee- a bureaucrat.

Built an organization from scratch? I am unaware of anything Falwell JR has built from scratch.
I am aware that he inherited
a university and ministry from his late father Jerry Falwell Sr

As to authority on any issue, I am curious what scriptures Falwell Jr has been reading in his support for these abominations

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Jerry Falwell Jr seizes the torch of assholishness and goes full sprint into the lead (Original Post) rpannier Jun 2019 OP
Oh, FUN!! I am always alert to Falwell news, thanks, rpannier! Leghorn21 Jun 2019 #1
But Osama bin Laden made a payroll and built an organization from scratch though ck4829 Jun 2019 #2
Jerry, Jerry's wife and pool boy. Three way fun... comradebillyboy Jun 2019 #3
Do not be so judgmental, they had to arthritisR_US Jun 2019 #7
I'll bet irisblue Jun 2019 #19
I don't know much about twitter, but it seems 9.5k peeps have seen this idiot's tweet, and 362 Leghorn21 Jun 2019 #4
Yes, that is what is known as a "ratio" on Twitter ck4829 Jun 2019 #6
I don't know how this creep fools anyone. Nt BootinUp Jun 2019 #5
They want to be fooled nt underpants Jun 2019 #26
The road apple doesn't fall far from the horse's ass. n/t Crunchy Frog Jun 2019 #8
I like that! Ilsa Jun 2019 #16
That's perfect! Putting it in my mind's roladex! Karadeniz Jun 2019 #37
Have heard this before infinite_wisdom Jun 2019 #9
I don't think Jesus "made a payroll" so will Falwell ignore him, too? LastDemocratInSC Jun 2019 #12
It's an adulteration of their rigid authoritarian structure.... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #14
As to authority on any issue, I am curious what scriptures Falwell Jr has been reading in his suppor safeinOhio Jun 2019 #10
Kinda fun seeing one religious screwball assassinating another. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #11
ethics and morals are there somewhere.....maybe stuck to the underside of the pews lagomorph777 Jun 2019 #32
Well, in my own life I HAVE made payrolls quite a few times. PatrickforO Jun 2019 #13
What's the position of his republican pool boy? Achilleaze Jun 2019 #15
Missionary liberaltrucker Jun 2019 #23
Russel Moore Dorian Gray Jun 2019 #17
When will the sheeple wake up and acknowledge the Falwells have been running a pyramid scheme Vinca Jun 2019 #18
Um, maybe he's just someone who's, you know, read the Bible ?? eppur_se_muova Jun 2019 #20
isn't farwell nothing more than a franchise owner of Javaman Jun 2019 #21
Kick!! Leghorn21 Jun 2019 #22
It's like they try to be assholes. Initech Jun 2019 #24
A self-centered capitalist. lpbk2713 Jun 2019 #25
He believes that the money changers in the temple were the good guys Crunchy Frog Jun 2019 #27
I always thought that was spelled "Assholiness" lagomorph777 Jun 2019 #28
Bro, do you even payroll?? qazplm135 Jun 2019 #29
A true Horatio Alger story n/t hibbing Jun 2019 #30
WTF does running a business have to do with moral authority? lagomorph777 Jun 2019 #31
If it's a business, shouldn't it be taxed accordingly? Methinks so! madinmaryland Jun 2019 #33
He did just admit that, didn't he? lagomorph777 Jun 2019 #35
Your headline is a DU winner! Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2019 #34
I read the tweet thread from a link at balloon-juice.com. Comments really lambast Fjr bobbieinok Jun 2019 #36

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
1. Oh, FUN!! I am always alert to Falwell news, thanks, rpannier!
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 01:32 AM
Jun 2019

You know how hard it is to make payroll while
paying off Trump and David Pecker, who have
pictures of me and my wife with the poolboy,
supporting said pool boy's fledgling business and
ruining the good name of Liberty University???”






Falwell/Moore story here:

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/450360-jerry-falwell-jr-questions-evangelical-leader-over-images-of

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
4. I don't know much about twitter, but it seems 9.5k peeps have seen this idiot's tweet, and 362
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 02:23 AM
Jun 2019
LIKED IT.

Everybody else, not so much:












Let’s go here, twitterverse, and get this *MAJOR EVANGELICAL TRUMP SUPPORTER* TRENDING IN THE TOP FIVE BY MIDDAY PLEASE

Think of how totally humiliated MF45 will be!!!!

ck4829

(35,042 posts)
6. Yes, that is what is known as a "ratio" on Twitter
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 02:25 AM
Jun 2019

It means somebody (Falwell in this instance) is getting spanked on the internet.

 

infinite_wisdom

(73 posts)
9. Have heard this before
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 03:17 AM
Jun 2019

I have heard this argument from RWers before - if you haven’t made a payroll then your opinions are invalid and your ideas should be ignored.

How many times do we have to see that businessmen usually make for crappy politicians? Or that most extremely bright people have no interest in becoming businessmen?

Or that it is possible for an ignorant and uneducated person to succeed in business? Do you want the Duck Dynasty idiots making policy decisions?



KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
14. It's an adulteration of their rigid authoritarian structure....
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 04:21 AM
Jun 2019

to which they are totally beholden for emotional foundation. It's baked into the so-called conservative brain, and it's a sin to criticize the structure or any of its building blocks. The ones I've known don't get along well without it, or if it gets holes blasted in it (e.g., Nixon's downfall).

A typical right-wing one might look like this (with millions of variations):
* God
* Preacher
* POTUS
* Boss at work (payroll guy)
* Mom, dad and grandparents.
* Rush Limbaugh
* Senators and representatives
* Wife, siblings, friends and co-workers, etc.

The version discussed here relating to Falwell's statement is an extension of the prosperity gospel, which is one of the most evil twistings of religious theology I've ever seen.

KY...... ......

safeinOhio

(32,665 posts)
10. As to authority on any issue, I am curious what scriptures Falwell Jr has been reading in his suppor
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 03:27 AM
Jun 2019

The Gospel according to John Galt.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
11. Kinda fun seeing one religious screwball assassinating another.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 03:55 AM
Jun 2019

I guess Falwell didn't bother to research who it was he was railing against.

On this guy Russell Moore:

(snip)

Russell Moore is president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention. The ERLC is the moral and public policy entity of the nation’s largest Protestant denomination.

The Wall Street Journal has called Moore “vigorous, cheerful, and fiercely articulate.” He was named in 2017 to Politico Magazine’s list of top fifty influence-makers in Washington, and has been profiled by such publications as the Washington Post, the New Yorker, and the Weekly Standard.
------
Prior to his election in 2013, Moore served as provost and dean of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, where he also taught theology and ethics. He currently serves as Distinguished Professor of Christian Ethics at Southern Seminary, and as a visiting professor of ethics at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary and New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary. A native Mississippian, Moore and his wife Maria are the parents of five sons.

So, Falwell is having a holier than thou moment against one of the Baptist's top dogs.

Which, by the way is not necessarily wrong 'cause Moore was a supporter of the Gorsuch and Kavanaugh nominations, so he's a hypocritical scumbag just like Falwell.....

I wish Mr. Moore the best of luck in the rediscovery of Christian ethics I knew back in church in the 60s that have been lost now for decades.

Russell, those ethics and morals are there somewhere.....maybe lost under the pews.....

KY...........

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
13. Well, in my own life I HAVE made payrolls quite a few times.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 04:08 AM
Jun 2019

Never missed one, in fact.

So, gee, I guess now my opinion can be considered validated by Falwell Junior.

Gosh, that makes me feel so good, that I've done something that he feels gives me the right to even have an opinion.

That said, Falwell is little more than a parasitic worm, feeding off ignorance and fear. And this? A twitter apologetic for our government's cruel and evil policies, inflicting misery upon children at a rate of $700 per head of taxpayer money, paid to for-profit greed-head concentration camp owners who are depriving these kids of basic needs TO MAXIMIZE PROFITS TO SHAREHOLDERS.

Fuck you Falwell, and the horse you rode in on. And mark my words - to those monsters carrying out this cruelty...there isn't any excuse for you. You cannot tell the court when you are put in the dock that you were only following orders. We didn't buy that at Nuremberg and we won't buy it when we try you. Because you are nothing but slime. Trump talks about draining the swamp - you ARE the fucking swamp, like a diseased, stinking, suppurating pustule on our nation.

Dorian Gray

(13,490 posts)
17. Russel Moore
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 06:53 AM
Jun 2019

is a good man. He is a Christian leader who walks the walk. I don't always agree with his theology, as I have a different background, but he is open to communication and cares about human beings.

Falwell's response to his compassion was the ugliest thing I've seen on the internet in a long while. It's shocking and alarming. I can't imagine why people look up to him as a leader within the Christian community. I'm pretty sure he's a businessman, not an ordained minister. That he holds any sway with the evangelical community is alarming as hell.

Vinca

(50,256 posts)
18. When will the sheeple wake up and acknowledge the Falwells have been running a pyramid scheme
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 07:18 AM
Jun 2019

for decades? They acquired their vast wealth from flimflamming grandmas out of their social security checks. The whole lot of them should be investigated as a crime organization and at the very least any tax exemptions should be snatched away. It's astonishing, given the "pool boy" incident, this charlatan would even slither out from under his rock.

eppur_se_muova

(36,257 posts)
20. Um, maybe he's just someone who's, you know, read the Bible ??
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 10:32 AM
Jun 2019

I thought all Christians were "brothers".

Initech

(100,060 posts)
24. It's like they try to be assholes.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 04:02 PM
Jun 2019

Any decent human being would have realized what they said is wrong. These guys have no filter whatsoever and put any sense of common decency in the paper shredder.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
27. He believes that the money changers in the temple were the good guys
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 04:32 PM
Jun 2019

And Jesus was the bad guy.

Jesus never met a payroll, and criticized good, decent rich people. What a lib, snowflake socialist.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
31. WTF does running a business have to do with moral authority?
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 04:43 PM
Jun 2019

Really? Falwell is supposedly a preacher but his go-to position is that you have to run a business before you can say anything about what's right and wrong? How is that supposed to work?

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
35. He did just admit that, didn't he?
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 05:08 PM
Jun 2019

Comparing the success of his god-franchise with that of his competitor...

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
36. I read the tweet thread from a link at balloon-juice.com. Comments really lambast Fjr
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 05:32 PM
Jun 2019

Treatment of children and babies in these camps contradicts everything I was taught im n SoBapt Sunday School in the 50s.

Twitter thread has several very good posters. Maybe someone here could find them and post them at DU.

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