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CousinIT

(9,240 posts)
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 07:58 PM Jun 2019

Trump's sneak attack on social security -- and how he thinks he can quietly get away with it

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/trumps-sneak-attack-on-social-security-and-how-the-president-thinks-he-can-quietly-get-away-with-it/

Donald Trump’s recent budget proposal included billions of dollars in Social Security cuts. The proposed cuts were a huge betrayal of his campaign promise to protect our Social Security system. Fortunately for Social Security’s current and future beneficiaries, he has little chance of getting these cuts past the House of Representatives, which is controlled by Democrats.

So Trump and his budget director/chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, who has long been hostile to Social Security, are trying another tactic to cut our earned benefits. They are pursuing a long game to reach their goal. In a divide-and-conquer move, the focus is not Social Security. At least, not yet.

Last week, the Trump administration revealed that it is planning to employ the so-called chained Consumer Price Index (CPI) in a way that does not need congressional approval. “Chained CPI” might sound technical and boring, but anyone who has closely followed the Social Security debate knows better. It has long been proposed as a deceptive, hard-to-understand way to cut our earned Social Security benefits.

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So, what does this have to do with Social Security? Like the poverty level, Social Security’s modest benefits are automatically adjusted to keep pace with inflation. If not adjusted, those benefits will erode, slowly but inexorably losing their purchasing power over time. These annual adjustments are already too low, but they are better than no adjustment at all. The chained CPI would make these adjustments even less adequate. The top line of the following chart shows what a more accurate adjustment would look like. The line below it shows what the current adjustment does to benefits, and the bottom line shows what the stingier chained CPI would do:

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Trump's sneak attack on social security -- and how he thinks he can quietly get away with it (Original Post) CousinIT Jun 2019 OP
They just can't accept that SS is not an entitlement. BSdetect Jun 2019 #1
It is an entitlement. It is an earned benefit we are entitled to. Ilsa Jun 2019 #11
Thank you! shanti Jun 2019 #18
WHich is why everyone should nykym Jun 2019 #27
WTF.?? Just keep your damn hands off my social security. a kennedy Jun 2019 #2
K&R smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #3
I just filed my retirement. SCVDem Jun 2019 #4
Motherfuckers rickyhall Jun 2019 #5
For everyone's information watoos Jun 2019 #6
3.8 Traildogbob Jun 2019 #9
The world would be a better place if a few of those "good people" left Congress... Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #12
You sir, are correct Traildogbob Jun 2019 #15
It's expected of republicans to promise to protect Social Security (or say nothing at all about it) gtar100 Jun 2019 #7
Today on NPR not fooled Jun 2019 #8
Ronny. Traildogbob Jun 2019 #10
He also taxed unemployment wryter2000 Jun 2019 #17
25 years ago shanti Jun 2019 #20
Repubs have been working on this since the 30's... Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #13
PLEASE - share this far and wide to Dem and Repub friends & family alike. CousinIT Jun 2019 #14
Think twice here, Mick - when MF45 cuts your ass lose, you might be needing your SS cut, LOSER Leghorn21 Jun 2019 #16
republicans pissing on regular Americans Achilleaze Jun 2019 #19
"...in a way that does not need congressional approval." Ilsa Jun 2019 #21
Jeezus, not this shit again. GoCubsGo Jun 2019 #22
George Carlin bdamomma Jun 2019 #23
Luck nails it with this classic. CrispyQ Jun 2019 #24
Kick dalton99a Jun 2019 #25
Our Democratic candidates saidsimplesimon Jun 2019 #26
When we uncover this stuff we need to run ads about it in places like ooky Jun 2019 #28

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
1. They just can't accept that SS is not an entitlement.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 08:07 PM
Jun 2019

G Bush wanted to let Wall St get its hands on your pensions.

The housing crash stopped that scam but not the constant attacks on SS and USPS etc

Greed knows no limits.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
11. It is an entitlement. It is an earned benefit we are entitled to.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 09:28 PM
Jun 2019

"Entitlement" was turned into a dirty word by republicans, like what happened to "Liberal".

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
4. I just filed my retirement.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 09:00 PM
Jun 2019

I knew he would pull this shit!

Only for the rich!

Have a coronary asshole, that's what you're doing to the country!

Traildogbob

(8,720 posts)
9. 3.8
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 09:24 PM
Jun 2019

Yea, well congress is proposing 15 percent cola for them, to keep good people from leaving public service. Fuck these assholes to hell, and not back.

Traildogbob

(8,720 posts)
15. You sir, are correct
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 09:52 PM
Jun 2019

Maybe we should starve the beast. Pay em minimum wage. Bonuses if legislation gets passed that helps everyone BUT the wealthy.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
7. It's expected of republicans to promise to protect Social Security (or say nothing at all about it)
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 09:18 PM
Jun 2019

and do everything they can to dismantle it. It has the word "Social" in it so it must be bad.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
8. Today on NPR
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 09:23 PM
Jun 2019

which I usually don't listen to but got stuck somewhere and it was on--midday show--a caller asked re puke plans to cut Social Security and the hosts said no because it was too politically hazardous--I figured they weren't aware of the CPI plan and sure enough, they weren't. THIS is how the pukes plan to slip the cuts in under the radar. St. Ronnie enacted a BIG cut by raising the retirement age but because it didn't kick in for 25 years, the evil old bastard escaped opprobrium. pukes play the long game and are sneaky about it, and I guarantee my puke-voting red don-loving neighbors will never learn or figure out what hit them.

Traildogbob

(8,720 posts)
10. Ronny.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 09:26 PM
Jun 2019

Don't forget, SS was not federally taxed until after Ronney cut the rich taxes for trickle down bull shit. St. Ronny.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
20. 25 years ago
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:53 AM
Jun 2019

Way before any of us boomers (the target, apparently) would feel the pain. I hate these people.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
13. Repubs have been working on this since the 30's...
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 09:35 PM
Jun 2019

I swear, before the ink was dry on FDR's signature, they were planning ways to destroy the program.

This bears watching, and I don't want to hear of 'compromises' from Dems.

CousinIT

(9,240 posts)
14. PLEASE - share this far and wide to Dem and Repub friends & family alike.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 09:45 PM
Jun 2019

WH and Representative phones and email boxes need to be SLAMMED to stop this.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
16. Think twice here, Mick - when MF45 cuts your ass lose, you might be needing your SS cut, LOSER
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 09:58 PM
Jun 2019

fuck you all

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
21. "...in a way that does not need congressional approval."
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 02:35 PM
Jun 2019

Trump and Mulvaney don't care about Congressional powers or the Constitution.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
22. Jeezus, not this shit again.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 02:42 PM
Jun 2019

I hoped the "chained" CPI bullshit had gone away. It's like a vampire. Can't kill it, apparenty.

bdamomma

(63,837 posts)
23. George Carlin
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 02:54 PM
Jun 2019

told us all so many years ago. The foresight this man had, I wish he was still alive today.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
26. Our Democratic candidates
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 03:37 PM
Jun 2019

could use this as a tool in defeating those who agree with and support IT (the great pretender). Rumpie is a coward. The republican base of old folks, like me, should wail, keep your hands off of my SS check.
(Sometimes I feel like saying fu, I fought for mine. You voted for the POS now reap the whirlwind.)

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ooky

(8,922 posts)
28. When we uncover this stuff we need to run ads about it in places like
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 05:39 PM
Jun 2019

Florida and other places where there are a lot of age 50+.

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