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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsthe concentration camps are even worse than feared
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fire every agent at these places.
arrest and jail some of them
lock teh top officials up for life
Zoonart
(11,849 posts)Liberate the Camps.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)I'll bring the wd-40 and a wrench...
rdking647
(5,113 posts)i am literally shaking with rage
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)as good as it is, is not good enough when they have guns.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)molotov's anyone...?
...
You know what's even worse?
Is while that was a half-hearted joke...I'm 80-90% worried we are going to see that shit in our lifetime on our streets...
wtf...my teens (17-18) EXPECT IT!
sad state of our country and Constitution when we may have to go THERE as a People...
quakerboy
(13,919 posts)bdamomma
(63,836 posts)did you ever wonder how this country was founded by blood, sweat and tears. Don't shoot the messenger
quakerboy
(13,919 posts)But the anti war movement, and Occupy and Antifa and such are regularly panned and dismissed, even here.
llmart
(15,536 posts)Members of PETA have no problem doing stuff like that to free animals, so why can't we do something to free these people?
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)bdamomma
(63,836 posts)this is being done in our name. This has got to stop. We got to get this POS out.
DENVERPOPS
(8,810 posts)Trump and his band of merry heathens would like nothing better than the public to try and raid the camps.
They are all itching to have their wet dreams come true to have an illegal reason to call in the MAGA's in the national guard, and all the MAGA's in the military, full armed to "protect the migrants"......
Of course that would be flagrantly illegal under the Posse Comataus act, but he breaks the law each and every day he has been in office and nothing is ever done about it.
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)I am at a point I want to start begging our Allies to step up for us since no one in our government will stop it and our press is complicit.
Initech
(100,063 posts)corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)I want every person who objected to the term "concentration camps" to defend the same position now!
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Bettie
(16,089 posts)they act out sometimes...and yet, they aren't able to keep it together for an hour or two while members of congress are visiting?
Sounds like they all need serious psych evaluations. Oh, and to learn how one treats other human beings.
McKim
(2,412 posts)They are mostly War on iraq returnees with PTSD talk about bringing the war home!
Kaiserguy
(740 posts)hire decent people CBP and change how you do business and you won't have these problems. This is 100% on Trump and the GOP and it's base they made the problem and so far they are fine with the evil that they are doing. There is never any excuse to treat anyone the way these people are being treated. I'm was just following orders was the excuse given by the Nazi's it didn't work then and it doesn't work now!!!Time to impeach Trump and charge him the CBP and GOP with crimes against humanity
Bettie
(16,089 posts)If these guys aren't stable enough to act like human beings for a little while during a visit by congresspersons, well, it says a lot about how they behave when no one is watching and what it says is nothing good.
There is no excuse. None.
I'd love to see an impeachment investigation, but it isn't going to happen. Apparently, impeachment isn't for Republicans, no matter how lawless they are. It makes me so angry and sad, knowing that the next criminal will be even worse because there are no consequences for anything anymore.
Are still one of the most corrupt federal law enforcement agencies in the US...those that don't work with the cartels, are bidding their time until they find another job, get promoted, or retire!
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/crime/slideshow/Border-Patrol-agents-arrested-for-sex-crimes-109094.php
https://www.themonitor.com/2019/03/03/breaking-sources-border-patrol-agent-arrested-accused-attempted-murder/
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/border-patrol-agent-charged-capital-murder-texas-212243512.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-border-patrol-agent-charged-165352011.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/12/us/politics/border-agency-employees-arrested.html
https://sputniknews.com/us/201810301069335357-Border-Patrol-Smuggling-Cocaine/
Bettie
(16,089 posts)culture of corruption within the agency.
Sounds like there needs to be some serious housecleaning done.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,783 posts)The cartoon of Trump driving over the bodies of the drowned man and his baby will resonate even more.
Congressional Republicans are aiding and abetting a cruel, amoral man. They should be shamed and hounded abut it every single day by her, Democrats, and the
Resw.
Bettie
(16,089 posts)Seriously, they all seem to be really, really afraid of her.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)SOmeone should pull the information on who requested them and authorized them.
Then those people should be prosecuted.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)in some cases jailed for life or even executed
McKim
(2,412 posts)The military has had these camps for decades. In the 1960s Anti War Movement we used to joke: See yall in the camps! Referring to dissident camps that we imagined might be used for us.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Key shithole camp right at one year ago, we knew
Lets end this shit
Thanks for your post
Hang tough
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)"Any employees found to have violated our standards of conduct will be held accountable." US Border Patrol Chief
Link to tweet
rdking647
(5,113 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I want to cry, but it seems easier to just laugh hysterically...
I no longer recognize my country.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Hang tough, the lids coming off these camps
Mother Jones, msm, yahoo news, politico and HuffPost have picked up the story just in the last couple hours
Its not going away any time soon
Repeat, hang tough, my friend
Bettie
(16,089 posts)realistically they probably mean "given an award and a promotion", right? That's how this shit works in MAGATland.
MontanaMama
(23,307 posts)into itself? Huh. Sounds very tRump-like.
C_U_L8R
(44,998 posts)If these trumpfucks think they can get away with crimes against humanity, they are going to be very surprised when it's their turn in the cage.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)We have to reach Americans that have a conscience and did not vote in the last presidential election. If there are socalled progressives who plan to stay home or vote third party or vote for Trump if their preferred candidate doesn't win the nomination, then I say to every one of them, fuck you, you monster.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)And we cant criticize those in a position to do something about this.
This is how it starts.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)thats how the media works these days.
LiberalArkie
(15,713 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,319 posts)brought home.
Dorn
(523 posts)ALBliberal
(2,339 posts)tblue37
(65,328 posts)Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)I'd assume at this point, no cell phones or any electronic devices are permitted inside by anyone. Some wealthy person/entity needs to step up and offer a cash reward for video evidence of what is going on inside these facilities. Maybe one of the workers will find a way to get some footage.
ALBliberal
(2,339 posts)Isnt there a photo of AOC gagging? Shes wearing all white? Thought I saw that pic in one of the tweets. So then I wondered about photos taken at the concentration camp.
murielm99
(30,733 posts)I believe that the conditions there are horrible, but I do not trust this source completely. Why was she let in, and not Warren?
Turin_C3PO
(13,964 posts)I cant believe shed lie and make up an entire scenario like the one she described.
murielm99
(30,733 posts)only grandstanding. I believe the conditions are unspeakable.
I would still like to know why she got in, and others, including Warren, have been denied admittance.
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EleanorR
(2,389 posts)Homestead is a private concentration camp in Florida. These congresspeople visited centers run by Customs and Boarder patrol in Texas.
EleanorR
(2,389 posts)But Health and Human Services still seems to be randomly turning away members of congress who try to visit.
Blues Heron
(5,931 posts)Grandstanding? really?
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)including Reps. Veronica Escobar, Joaquin
Castro, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are
visiting migrant detention centers in Texas
today amid reports of deplorable conditions
at some facilities.
Link to tweet
(I cannot access article, sorry)
murielm99
(30,733 posts)I would like to hear from the others as well. I don't see any posts about their comments. I believe we are keeping people there under inhumane conditions.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Will post when/if they tell us something, muriel
murielm99
(30,733 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)But members of the visiting delegation said several hundred people remain detained at the El Paso station. They described a visit with a group of more than a dozen Cuban women housed in a crowded cell without running water who reported going weeks without showers.
Another member of the delegation, Rep. Judy Chu (D-Calif.), said in an account posted to Twitter that the conditions at the facility were appalling and disgusting.
If you want water, just drink from a toilet. Thats what border patrol told one thirsty woman we met on todays #DemsAtTheBorder trip, Chu tweeted.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/house-members-visiting-migrant-detention-centers-amid-reports-of-deplorable-conditions/2019/07/01/1ac091bc-9c13-11e9-9ed4-c9089972ad5a_story.html?utm_term=.c4eed34daa88
Leith
(7,809 posts)It's Warren's account posted on FB.
It's appalling.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)and in front of govt officials! That is unbelievable.
orangecrush
(19,537 posts)are going after her on twitter.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)Get the media in there!
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)when acting as prison guards in a dehumanizing environment. This is a tragic real life example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
mopinko
(70,078 posts)fire those fuckers, down to the last idiot.
Johnny2X2X
(19,038 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 1, 2019, 06:22 PM - Edit history (1)
Someone said to me on another site, they aren't concentration camps because they aren't killing them. After I explained they don't have to kill them for them to be concentration camps, I then asked, "How do we know they aren't killing them?"
How do we know they aren't killing them? History shows that atrocities will occur when a group of people are held in secret at the hands of hostile guards with a leader urging abuse. In every case in history the results have been horrific. Not even members of congress are being given full access to the prisoners. And what was shown to members of Congress was abuse and mistreatment, what is happening when no one is watching?
We know that thousands of prisoners are unaccounted for, many have just disappeared. Where are they, who is looking for them? I've been saying this from the start, they 100% will find graves in the desert, where murdered prisoners will be found after having endured god knows what at the hands of guards and border patrol. History proves this out every time, why do people think this is different some how?
we dont know anything, J
C_U_L8R
(44,998 posts)... isnt a death camp doesnt mean its not immoral and illegal and inhumane. And yeah, who knows what atrocities are being committed. The world needs to intervene.
The Russians? The Chinese? Turkey? Israel? Maybe the UK under Boris?
The world has its own issues. This one is up to us.
C_U_L8R
(44,998 posts)quakerboy
(13,919 posts)Many of the major powers have their own equivalent issues. They have no interest in creating precident that cout be turned against them.
I repeat this is on us to fix. There aint a higher power to save us from what the usa is doing.
C_U_L8R
(44,998 posts)I mean everyone as in you, I and everyone else here.
quakerboy
(13,919 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,038 posts)There are thousands that have gone missing. We need to find them before its too late.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)Exactly.
FakeNoose
(32,633 posts)These people are profit centers and we taxpayers are footing the bill. They should be treated like kings and queens, or at least fed and clothed like royalty if nothing else. It's absolutely infuriating!
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)Yeah, I get it. Theyre civil servants (OK, civil is a stretch here). But they signed on knowing this would not be a cushy desk job. Presumably, they swore an oath.
Its time to hold them accountable.
Long past time!
Why am I reminded of the Nuremberg trials?
rdking647
(5,113 posts)stat mass arrests of border patrol agents,starting with those in charge of the camps. If teh courts wont do it its up to teh citizens
EleanorR
(2,389 posts)patphil
(6,169 posts)For all the fake Christians and Catholics who still support Trump, I would like to paraphrase the words of the one you claim to follow:
What so ever you do to the least of my children, that you do also unto me.
Patrick Phillips
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)I don't know how hate media is playing this Nazi shit off as a good thing to them, because if they think so, they're insane.
And have terrible lives of karmic debt to pay if they aren't completely bonkers.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Should be investigating this, and the UN. These death camps need to be fully exposed, and all those responsible need consequences for doing this against these people.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)First with our illegal overseas detention centers/torture of detained enemy combatants, and now concentration camps in our own borders? Come on America, we can do better than this.
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)Independence Day. What kind of country treats refugees this way? These people had absolutely nowhere to go and we shit on them like this! I feel like I just ran over a homeless person.
lapucelle
(18,250 posts)I hope someone in the press or from her entourage posts video. It's something everyone needs to see.
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Niagara
(7,595 posts)These conditions are inhumane and need to be exposed.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)Impeach the MF now!!!!
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Congress reps AND those filthy border patrol Facebook posts coming to light as well
Its busting loose I believe, starting T O D A Y
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)And these are only the horrors we know of so far. I am sure there are things going on that are much worse that have not been exposed yet.
This is an outrage! It is inhuman to treat people this way for doing nothing other than trying to find a better life for themselves. Every person responsible for these conditions, from the lowliest guard all the way up to the president needs to be held legally accountable and punished!
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)byronius
(7,394 posts)They'll have to be brought to justice just like their leaders.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Shame shame shame on America.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)When the government is trying to hide a truth that is not a bona fide national security secret, then they know that the truth reveals an evil.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)who else is profiting from this? I would bet that gop members are getting paybacks to keep this hidden. WHY are they not investigating? How did all those tents, sleeping bags etc. appear so fast? Wanna bet Dickless Cheney has a stake in this? He is usually the first one to profit from any atrocity. McConnell likely has a hand in the profits too. This has to be exposed, in all its horror. That vile tRump aide, Stephen Miller was one of the architects of this, with full approval from tRump. Plenty of people are making money from this - bet on that.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Human beings in 2019 still capable of this low level evil is just