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Mon Jul 8, 2019, 03:53 PM

Epstein is cooked, fried, burnt to a crisp and in danger of a life sentence:

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Read this article from CNN, it explains it far better than I can. Department of Labor Secretary Alex Acosta is probably cooked too, and I am not an expert on cooking. I give you this link to show how much trouble this fellow is in. The article also infers that some of those other people (Epsteiin's friends and others) who partook in sex with the young women are also cooked. But that is too far in the future. One conclusion is that Epstein will probably never see the outside of a jail cell again. You be the judge of the rest of this article. from CNN:

written by Elie Honig
update 1:36pm ET, 7/8/19...article title:

The next big question about Jeffrey Epstein

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/08/opinions/epstein-trafficking-molesting-sdny-indictment-honig/index.html

(CNN) " Jeffrey Epstein dodged justice the first time he faced criminal charges for trafficking and molesting children, exploiting a combination of wealth, influence, vile attack-the-victim tactics and an incompetent prosecutor, then-US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida and current US Department of Labor Secretary Alex Acosta. This time, however, Epstein is likely cooked. He faces charges likely to keep him behind bars for the rest of his life. The famously aggressive and independent Southern District of New York (where I worked for eight-plus years) has indicted him on charges of running a sex trafficking ring in which he allegedly sexually abused dozens of girls. Neither SDNY nor a public spotlight will permit a hush-hush sweetheart deal like Epstein got in Florida. The big question is, as the SDNY takes down Epstein, who else will go with him?

When he first faced sex trafficking charges in Florida in 2007, Epstein skated. His powerhouse team of attorneys somehow worked with Acosta to craft an agreement that was staggeringly unjust. Epstein faced decades behind bars but Acosta let him go with a plea to two minor state-level charges (for which he was sentenced to 13 months behind bars but served most of it on work release). The deal also inexplicably immunized Epstein's co-conspirators. In 14-plus years as a prosecutor, I've never even heard of the concept of giving a free pass to a defendant's co-conspirators. Worse, as a federal judge ruled recently, Acosta violated the rights of Epstein's victims by entering into the sweetheart plea deal without notifying them first, as the law requires.

The New York indictment was unsealed Monday and details allegations that between 2002 and 2005, Epstein ran a trafficking outfit in which he paid hundreds of dollars to girls as young as 14 to have sex with him at his homes in New York and Florida and worked with employees and associates who would lure these girls there and paid some of them to recruit others for similar abuse. CNN has reached out to Epstein's lawyer for comment. In a press release, the US Attorney's office said, "Epstein created a vast network of underage victims for him to sexually exploit, often on a daily basis."

Things now look bleak for Epstein. Simply being charged by the SDNY is, in itself, a defendant's nightmare. According to Justice Department data, the conviction rate on federal charges is typically over 90%, and the conviction rate in federal human trafficking cases is even a tick higher than that." Much of the case likely will center on testimony from Epstein's victims. While Epstein's attorneys in Florida cowed Acosta in part through a vicious campaign to attack the victims, the SDNY needs to stand firm. I've done sex trafficking cases, including a trial based largely on the testimony of victims. In my experience, victims typically have no reason to lie, and juries can and will believe victims, particularly if their voices are supported by other evidence. Knowing the SDNY, they've likely got other corroborating evidence.-- perhaps phone records, financial documents, e-mails or texts or travel records -- to back up the victims.

........rest of article at link above

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Reply Epstein is cooked, fried, burnt to a crisp and in danger of a life sentence: (Original post)
Stuart G Jul 2019 OP
donkeypoofed Jul 2019 #1
dewsgirl Jul 2019 #2
shanti Jul 2019 #5
leftieNanner Jul 2019 #9
Leghorn21 Jul 2019 #16
SunSeeker Jul 2019 #28
Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #41
NCjack Jul 2019 #57
True Blue American Jul 2019 #61
NCjack Jul 2019 #62
Leghorn21 Jul 2019 #17
dewsgirl Jul 2019 #20
Lonestarblue Jul 2019 #53
True Blue American Jul 2019 #59
elevator48 Jul 2019 #21
dewsgirl Jul 2019 #24
SunSeeker Jul 2019 #30
Dan Jul 2019 #38
Nay Jul 2019 #44
Salviati Jul 2019 #26
True Blue American Jul 2019 #56
samnsara Jul 2019 #3
Adsos Letter Jul 2019 #4
AlexSFCA Jul 2019 #6
mobeau69 Jul 2019 #7
Trenzalore Jul 2019 #31
Nay Jul 2019 #45
Trenzalore Jul 2019 #51
zooks Jul 2019 #48
malaise Jul 2019 #8
Stuart G Jul 2019 #11
malaise Jul 2019 #12
Stuart G Jul 2019 #15
FakeNoose Jul 2019 #18
Disaffected Jul 2019 #47
FakeNoose Jul 2019 #49
elevator48 Jul 2019 #23
Salviati Jul 2019 #29
Trenzalore Jul 2019 #33
luvtheGWN Jul 2019 #55
Nay Jul 2019 #46
Skittles Jul 2019 #65
Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #70
mobeau69 Jul 2019 #42
True Blue American Jul 2019 #67
Thomas Hurt Jul 2019 #10
mitch96 Jul 2019 #13
yaesu Jul 2019 #19
Dan Jul 2019 #39
zooks Jul 2019 #50
zooks Jul 2019 #52
tblue37 Jul 2019 #14
True Blue American Jul 2019 #68
SHRED Jul 2019 #22
bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #27
BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #32
StarryNite Jul 2019 #34
cwydro Jul 2019 #40
Generic Brad Jul 2019 #66
bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #25
elias7 Jul 2019 #35
IronLionZion Jul 2019 #36
Karadeniz Jul 2019 #37
onetexan Jul 2019 #43
sandensea Jul 2019 #54
paleotn Jul 2019 #58
DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #60
customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #63
Scurrilous Jul 2019 #64
meadowlander Jul 2019 #69

Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 03:55 PM

1. Still can't believe Barr or Spanky didnt warn that wanker Epstein

Its something disBarr would usually do.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 03:58 PM

2. He just recused himself from the case. Trump will not be happy.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:03 PM

5. Well, that's a positive sign n/t

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:16 PM

9. He did???

That's excellent news. He has deep connections with Epstein, so it was the right thing to do. Just not something I would have expected in these times.

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:14 PM

28. Holy crap! That means Epstein is toast!

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #28)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:47 PM

41. Would also like Acosta's cabinet position to be toast too. . . . nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #41)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:48 PM

57. If Barr actually recused himself, he may be in trouble with The Boss. nt

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #61)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 07:10 PM

62. From the Alternet article: "It was unclear if Barr would follow through on recusal, ..."

After Trump kicks the crap out of Barr, maybe he will not recuse.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:42 PM

17. Wow, thanks, girl!!!!!

He sure did!!!

OMG tRump will be having cows and shitting bricks and otherwise FREAKED THE FUCK OUT behind this news!!!!!!!

This day’s just getting better and better!!

BOOM ALL YOU CRIMINALLY INSANE MUTHAFUKKAHS

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:06 PM

20. .....

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:24 PM

53. Here's hoping there is proof of Trump enjoying Epstein's sex parties.

With under age girls. Can’t wait to see how his perfect Christian hypocrites justify that.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #53)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:56 PM

59. Modeling agencies

Nothing but fronts for prosecution.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:07 PM

21. Radioactive

 

This case is so explosive nobody will want anything to do with it. No pardon either. It would be an admission of guilt and render Epstien's 5th amendment rights moot. This is gonna be huge.

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Response to elevator48 (Reply #21)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:10 PM

24. I realize I'm dreaming here but I pray the orange one is caught wrapped up in this.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #24)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:15 PM

30. +1

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #24)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:37 PM

38. Not me,

But I would be okay with Individual #1 being identified as an unindicted person of interest.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #24)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:03 PM

44. Oh, Goddess, me too. No POS deserves it more. I pray there are photos of ALL

these fucking perverts in the act. They all need to burn.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:11 PM

26. It certainly will be telling how unhappy trump becomes with barr over the next few days...

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:32 PM

56. Barr recused himself?

I heard today that many more came out to accuse Epstein after his arrest.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 03:58 PM

3. whew I thought u meant the reporter Acosta...

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:01 PM

4. "Acosta is probably cooked too, and I am not an expert on cooking."

The seriousness of this op aside, that is a great line!

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:10 PM

6. dems need to press Acosta and demand resignation or termination

the effort alone will bring Epstein case right into forefront of congress for the whole world to analyze his connection to trump.

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:12 PM

7. I can't believe Bone Spurs hasn't cut him loose yet.

The deal he gave Epstein needs to be explained to trumpons. I think if explained slowly by someone like Mayor Pete they may have a low wattage light bulb come on.

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:17 PM

31. It kind of died until the weekend

They pressed him a little in a hearing but seemed to drop it.

I have a bad feeling there is a lot of bipartisan skeletons about to be revealed about people in both parties if Epstein lives to see trial.

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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #31)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:05 PM

45. Anyone, R or D, who was mixed up in this needs to fry forever in prison. nt

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Response to Nay (Reply #45)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:16 PM

51. Agreed

As always be prepared that this isn't just a republican scandal

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:13 PM

48. "trumpons" bhahahahah!!! The best yet

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:15 PM

8. As Frank said this is public corruption and it stinks

It's going to blow wide open. Get your masks - the ReTHUG cesspool is about to stink up the place and the stench will make manure smell like Nina Ricci's best scents.

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Response to malaise (Reply #8)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:26 PM

11. The strangest aspect of this is that Epstein was absolutely sure that he could get away with this.

Like most crooks, his attitude is that.." no one will catch me. I have got it all covered." All the connections that Epstein had with the .."ReTHUG cesspool" will be..exposed ..Now one word is extremely important...in the last sentence....."All"

...All is not some, or a few. All is All. I like your quote: "...the stench will make manure smell like Nina Riccis best scents."

Who do you suppose is part of the....ALL?

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:34 PM

12. Just like the Con

They think they are untouchable

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Response to malaise (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:39 PM

15. Thank You....for saying those words, .."Just like the Con. They think they are untouchable"

Nixon, Haldeman and Ehrlichman thought exactly the same thoughts. (I am untouchable) And those 3 were totally wrong.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:53 PM

18. That probably means Epstein has kompromat - lots of it

They got him in New York because he flew back from Europe. What an idiot! He must have thought the feds never look at the incoming passenger lists.

He could have flown into Toronto and driven across the border. They probably wouldn't have looked at Canadian passenger lists. But this guy is too cocky because he's been getting away with it for way too long.

All in all it's a good day for law enforcement.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #18)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:12 PM

47. I don't understand how that would have helped him.

Couldn't they arrest him anyway (after he re-entered the US)?

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Response to Disaffected (Reply #47)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:15 PM

49. I don't think the state of Florida would arrest him

That would be double jeopardy, am I right? I'm not a lawyer but I'm guessing he's OK just about everywhere except the state of New York.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:09 PM

23. Not just republicans

 

There will be people from both sides and genders involved.

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Response to elevator48 (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:14 PM

29. Turn the light on them all.

Pull them all squirming into the sunshine and let the chips fall where they may.

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Response to elevator48 (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:18 PM

33. Correct

This is going to be ugly and all involved should have their actions see the light of day.

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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #33)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:31 PM

55. IIRC, this will also involve Prince Andrew.

His Mum (QEII) will not be pleased.

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Response to elevator48 (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:06 PM

46. Burn them all!!! I don't care what goddamn party they belong to!! nt

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Response to elevator48 (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

65. nice whataboutism

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Response to elevator48 (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 05:16 AM

70. You dont know that and until there is evidence you should not smear Democrats.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:57 PM

42. He doesn't fly commercial. Has two jets and, according to the FBI, at least one is

capable for international flights. They detailed that in the filing to the judge when they requested no bail. Surprised somebody didn't tip him off that the FBI was waiting.

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #42)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 04:36 AM

67. Probably did not

Notify Barr!

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:17 PM

10. Trump: You did a yuuuge favor for my pedo buddy...how bout a cabinet position.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:35 PM

13. "Epstein is cooked"

I hope your right and never underestimate a very wealthy man with connections in high places. All these guys are connected to each other. To prevent Epstein from squealing like a pig they will try to lessen his sentence like Acosta did...
I'll believe it when the sentence is read and the jail cell door closes...
paranoia proven by history..
m

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #13)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:58 PM

19. yep, I have zero faith in the unequal justice system in this country. nt

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #13)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:40 PM

39. Too much sunlight to hide this mess now, or get a sweetheart deal.

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Response to Dan (Reply #39)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:15 PM

50. I hope you right.nt

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #13)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:23 PM

52. Epstein's a member of the Trilateral Commission, as well as the

the Council on Foreign Relations, the New York Academy of Sciences, and the Institute of International Education.

According to the following 2011 VF article, he has friends in the highest places, this is just a snip


[As of 2011] His current fan club extends to Cayne, Henry Rosovsky, the former dean of Harvard’s Faculty of Arts and Sciences, and Larry Summers, Harvard’s current president. Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz says, “I’m on my 20th book…. The only person outside of my immediate family that I send drafts to is Jeffrey.” Real-estate developer and philanthropist Marshall Rose, who has worked with Epstein on projects in New Albany, Ohio, for Wexner, says, “He digests and decodes the information very rapidly, which is to me terrific because we have shorter meetings.”

Also on the list of admirers are former senator George Mitchell and a gaggle of distinguished scientists, most of whom Epstein has helped fund in recent years. They include Nobel Prize winners Gerald Edelman and Murray Gell-Mann, and mathematical biologist Martin Nowak. When these men describe Epstein, they talk about “energy” and “curiosity,” as well as a love for theoretical physics that they don’t ordinarily find in laymen. Gell-Mann rather sweetly mentions that “there are always pretty ladies around” when he goes to dinner chez Epstein, and he’s under the impression that Epstein’s clients include the Queen of England. Both Nowak and Dershowitz were thrilled to find themselves shaking the hand of a man named “Andrew” in Epstein’s house. “Andrew” turned out to be Prince Andrew, who subsequently arranged to sit in the back of Dershowitz’s law class.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303




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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:38 PM

14. I don't think Acosta was "cowed" or "incompetent." I think he was corrupt. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 04:37 AM

68. Of course he is

Acosta, corrupt to the core.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:07 PM

22. I absolutely refuse to get my hopes up

 

How many times have we been to these places only for nothing?

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Response to SHRED (Reply #22)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:13 PM

27. Right?

you just wonder when, if, how one of these cases will link them all together. I think the answer is that Trump is using gatekeepers such as Barr, McConnell, or just sheer confusion over all the corruption to block progress.

Who has the power to carry it out? SDNY. But Trump appointed US Attorney Berman there.

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Response to SHRED (Reply #22)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:18 PM

32. Same here.

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Response to SHRED (Reply #22)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:22 PM

34. Yup

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Response to SHRED (Reply #22)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:40 PM

40. I know. How many OPs have I read here saying "_____ is cooked, done for, stick a fork in him."

Dozens. Just fill in the blank with a name.

I’ve seen the orange buffoon’s name there many, many times.

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Response to SHRED (Reply #22)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:35 PM

66. This feels like the Michael Cohen raid

that had my hopes way up and all that fizzled out.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:10 PM

25. This case has justifiably taken the focus off the Mueller Report

for the time being, but some of the individuals overlap.

Are there still cases handed off to SDNY by OSC, or don't we know yet?

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:22 PM

35. But it was so long ago, most over 15 long years in the past

They were all just kids, just locker room talk...

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:23 PM

36. Lock him up, and make him turn in the other folks involved

especially any powerful famous folks who don't want us to know.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:37 PM

37. Please let trump and Barr get their involvement aired.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:00 PM

43. Are these federal charges? If so, his buddy the Idiot and fellow molester can

Pardon him.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:30 PM

54. And in danger of falling off a 5th story window

Or of accidentally shooting himself in the head. Twice.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:54 PM

58. Granted, but who else is involved...

I don't want Jeffey to be a sacrificial lamb while the rest of the slime go unpunished.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 07:02 PM

60. FTR, Acosta is Alex Acosta, current Labor Sec, not

Jim Acosta, CNN reporter.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 08:59 PM

63. Perhaps

but he has enough money to buy top notch lawyers that can get anything delayed. After November 2020, he's in line for a pardon, no matter how the election goes.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 09:27 PM

64. K&R

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 05:03 AM

69. Wonder if there's a link to Pecker's vault...

or is that just wishful thinking?

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