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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHave we had a good knockdown drag-out about restaurant tipping lately?
Here's a cute one from a restaurant near me. I took this photo, because it was a jaw-dropper for me.
On the left is the "merchant copy" receipt for the customer to sign. On the right is the detailed bill:
Some additional facts to chew on:
This was a party of two, and there is no sign, note in the menu, or any other notice of the automatic service charge. Also, these sorts of charges are extremely unusual in restaurants in my area.
What I love about the merchant-copy is that it calculates the tip based on the total amount - including the already-added service charge.
Normally, I tip 20%, but if someone charges me 15% without even telling me about it up front, that's all they get. But deceptively throwing in check boxes for up to 20% on top of 15% is pretty ballsy.
maxsolomon
(33,310 posts)it will say "additional tip" instead of "tip" if there's a service charge - which is typically 18%.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Oddly, the Delaware labor rules on this - in terms of who is presumed entitled to the money - differ from the recent IRS rules on how these are treated (in terms of how it is taxed).
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)and had to be given to employees.
Sneederbunk
(14,290 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The income tax and property tax tend to be a little higher.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Although I am an enthusiastic tipper, I have a very negative reaction to this approach.
I'm simply sending it off to the state labor department to suggest they have a look-see, since I have a pretty good idea who's getting the money, and there are some relevant regulations.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)has that nifty little suggested tip thing. I really don't like it. What I do like is to tip well.
It may be that we are moving in the direction of much of Europe where the service charge is automatically figured and no additional is expected.
However, even when I'm paying with a credit card I prefer to tip in cash. That way I know for sure the server gets it. I've heard too many stories of restaurants withholding the tip from the server if it's paid with a card.
spanone
(135,823 posts)never seen that on a restaurant bill before?
sounds like the tip to me?
Bettie
(16,089 posts)I'd be asking if that is a tip for the server or, if not, what it is.
If it isn't for the server, I'd stop going to that place and hand the server a cash tip personally.
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)18% when good and 20% when very good and sometimes if it is outstanding I will tip 25%
miyazaki
(2,239 posts)being forced to pay the 15 percent even when the service is substandard.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I'm curious as to how you identified the place.
miyazaki
(2,239 posts)-just kidding
Was the state, the Chinese Kanji, the lamb entree and it's price.
Google reverse image search was my guess.
The lamb was pretty good. The ma-po tofu was on the better side of okay.
demmiblue
(36,841 posts)miyazaki
(2,239 posts)kidding again.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)So, I'm good.
Apparently, I'm Ralph Lauren and I was made in Thailand.
Ms. Toad
(34,062 posts)I'd refuse to pay it (and hand the servers a cash tip).
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)is that the tip suggestion is based on the amount charged AFTER the bogus service charge.
No way in hell I'd ever give another dollar of my money to a business run like that, no matter how good their food was.