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Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:55 PM

Grammar tip when writing about Twitler

Last edited Tue Jul 16, 2019, 10:57 AM - Edit history (4)

If you're trying to describe a single motherfucker who is both a racist and a piece of shit, there are some basic rules to follow:

1) Motherfucker is, indeed, a compound noun, so it is a single word: "motherfucker," as is the gerund/adjective "motherfucking," as in "The president of the United States is a motherfucking racist," or "The president of the United States is a motherfucker."
2) "Racist" can be used as both a noun and an adjective, so its placement in your sentence depends on how you use it: "The motherfucking president is a racist," and "The president is a motherfucking racist" are both correct, as is "The racist president is a motherfucker."
3) "Piece of shit" is different from both "motherfucking" and "racist" because as a compound adjective used before the noun it modifies, it needs hyphenation. As a noun, "piece of shit" needs no extra hyphenation: "The president is a piece of shit" is fine, but you need to write "The piece-of-shit president is a motherfucking racist" with the hyphens indicating its role as an adjective.
4) If you want to use both "piece of shit" as a predicate adjective and "motherfucking" and "racist" as adjectives before the noun, you need a comma to separate what are called "adjectives of equal rank": "The President is a motherfucking, racist piece of shit." (Thanks, Roland99!)



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Reply Grammar tip when writing about Twitler (Original post)
jayschool2013 Jul 2019 OP
Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #1
jayschool2013 Jul 2019 #2
Different Drummer Jul 2019 #7
TheBlackAdder Jul 2019 #57
Perseus Jul 2019 #74
calimary Jul 2019 #87
Roland99 Jul 2019 #3
tblue37 Jul 2019 #5
Wawannabe Jul 2019 #22
CaptYossarian Jul 2019 #56
dchill Jul 2019 #70
Throckmorton Jul 2019 #76
calimary Jul 2019 #88
CaptYossarian Jul 2019 #90
Wawannabe Jul 2019 #91
jayschool2013 Jul 2019 #9
jayschool2013 Jul 2019 #14
Roland99 Jul 2019 #15
bloom Jul 2019 #50
Bettie Jul 2019 #4
superpatriotman Jul 2019 #6
Roland99 Jul 2019 #8
Wawannabe Jul 2019 #23
Roland99 Jul 2019 #36
wcollar Jul 2019 #37
Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #73
Wawannabe Jul 2019 #92
jayschool2013 Jul 2019 #11
virgogal Jul 2019 #10
jayschool2013 Jul 2019 #12
Leith Jul 2019 #13
world wide wally Jul 2019 #16
Wawannabe Jul 2019 #24
smirkymonkey Jul 2019 #61
lunatica Jul 2019 #17
TNNurse Jul 2019 #18
calimary Jul 2019 #89
TygrBright Jul 2019 #19
eppur_se_muova Jul 2019 #21
TygrBright Jul 2019 #29
Ms. Toad Jul 2019 #33
TygrBright Jul 2019 #39
Ms. Toad Jul 2019 #40
enki23 Jul 2019 #44
burrowowl Jul 2019 #67
jayschool2013 Jul 2019 #52
Wawannabe Jul 2019 #20
underpants Jul 2019 #27
ProudLib72 Jul 2019 #25
jayschool2013 Jul 2019 #53
leftieNanner Jul 2019 #26
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Kali Jul 2019 #28
louis-t Jul 2019 #30
TygrBright Jul 2019 #31
klook Jul 2019 #62
jayschool2013 Jul 2019 #65
klook Jul 2019 #66
mainstreetonce Jul 2019 #32
kag Jul 2019 #59
spike jones Jul 2019 #34
gristy Jul 2019 #35
SergeStorms Jul 2019 #38
warmfeet Jul 2019 #54
kooth Jul 2019 #41
jayschool2013 Jul 2019 #49
lame54 Jul 2019 #42
jmowreader Jul 2019 #43
rurallib Jul 2019 #45
Baltimike Jul 2019 #46
Skittles Jul 2019 #47
BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #48
True Dough Jul 2019 #51
kiri Jul 2019 #55
cwydro Jul 2019 #58
kag Jul 2019 #60
klook Jul 2019 #63
KentuckyWoman Jul 2019 #64
RainCaster Jul 2019 #68
jayschool2013 Jul 2019 #79
KPN Jul 2019 #69
mnhtnbb Jul 2019 #71
3catwoman3 Jul 2019 #72
Vinca Jul 2019 #75
Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #77
MrModerate Jul 2019 #78
Ohiya Jul 2019 #80
jayschool2013 Jul 2019 #81
Brainstormy Jul 2019 #82
jayschool2013 Jul 2019 #83
Rabrrrrrr Jul 2019 #84
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wendyb-NC Jul 2019 #86

Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:56 PM

1. is this yours?

Excellent!

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:58 PM

2. Indeed

Just combining my passion for precise language with the horrors we witness daily.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:03 PM

7. Good job! n/t

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Response to jayschool2013 (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:58 PM

57. Hey, where does douchebag, shrimp dick, and Putin's lapdog fall into this?

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Response to jayschool2013 (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 06:44 AM

74. Best grammar lesson I have ever had

 

To the point, great examples...

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Response to jayschool2013 (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:05 AM

87. LOVE it, jayschool2013!

Perfect!!!

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

3. The following would not be correct?

The President is a motherfucking, racist piece of shit?

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:02 PM

5. It is correct in every way. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:07 PM

22. Yeppers!!

P. O. S.

Not

POTUS

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:51 PM

56. Where do you put traitorous, serial adulterer, rapist, child molester,

damn liar, tax evader, draft dodger, and narcissist?

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Response to CaptYossarian (Reply #56)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 02:46 AM

70. You put him in prison.

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Response to dchill (Reply #70)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 06:55 AM

76. You win the internet for today. N/T

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Response to dchill (Reply #70)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:09 AM

88. BOOM!!!

And NOT in an adjoining cell to that Epstein monster. No chitchat about all that fun they had in their “glory” days of feasting on underage girls.

Solidarity confinement for each of them. And, donald, NO Pox Noise, NO phone, and ABSOLUTELY NO tweeting.

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Response to dchill (Reply #70)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 09:29 PM

90. Gitmo is too good for his ilk. I prefer sending that kind to

Greenland where the ice is melting and the polar bears are hungry. Miller, Gorka, Bannon and Stone can go with.

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Response to dchill (Reply #70)

Sun Jul 28, 2019, 10:56 AM

91. PLEASE

let it be. TOMORROW!!!

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:12 PM

9. True

and grammatically correct!

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:26 PM

14. Adjectives of equal rank

Thanks for your addition to the post, Roland99.

I will update the OP.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:27 PM

15. +1

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 04:30 PM

50. Except for the question mark.

There is no question.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:00 PM

4. Thank you for your

timely grammar lesson!

If we're going to call him what he is, the least we can do is express it correctly!

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:02 PM

6. Is POS proper instead of piece of shit?

And if I think he actually had relations with his mother will capitalizing 'Motherfucker' clarify the meaning?

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:03 PM

8. I don't think Point Of Sale would be construed in this situation

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #8)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:08 PM

23. POS

Meant “piece of shit” WAY before point of sales... just sayin.

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Response to Wawannabe (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:31 PM

36. lol

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Response to Wawannabe (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:31 PM

37. P.O.S.

Actually, the Motherfucking racist piece of shit has sold off access and control of our government and country so Point of Sale also works!

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Response to Wawannabe (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 05:25 AM

73. that's Pile, not Piece Of Shit

Of course, it could be a regional thing.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #73)

Sun Jul 28, 2019, 10:58 AM

92. Pile

Is very apropos, Hermit.

Peace

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:15 PM

11. I meant to add this lesson about the comma of direct address

If you want to write to someone about the president and you use "motherfucker" as a nickname for the president, yes, it is capitalized:
"Let's impeach Motherfucker!" as opposed to "Let's impeach the motherfucker."

Or, if you're writing to someone else whom you may affectionately refer to as "Motherfucker," then you have a conundrum. In this case, I would replace the description of the president with the word "asshole": "Let's impeach the asshole, Motherfucker."

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:15 PM

10. Some of us don't use that language.

 

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Response to virgogal (Reply #10)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:17 PM

12. I respect that

But profane times sometimes call for profanity.

Peace and love, virgogal.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:20 PM

13. That is a public service announcement we can use

Thanks!



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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:39 PM

16. Brought to you by the letter MF

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:10 PM

24. Good one!

MFer

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:03 PM

61. I think Sesame Street has this one covered...

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:57 PM

17. Motherfucker. Is. A. Piece. Of. Shit. Racist.

I’m pretty emphatic about that.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:01 PM

18. Oh, I know some retired English professors

who would love this.

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Response to TNNurse (Reply #18)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:13 AM

89. Don't forget the nuns! Sister Dorothy, Sister Kostka, and Sister Timothy.

In elementary school, they were fierce guardians of grammar and spelling.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:02 PM

19. ::koff:: incorrect use of apostrophe ::koff::..."so it's placement" n/t

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #19)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:07 PM

21. just for you ...

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Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #21)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:17 PM

29. ::snork:: That's not a joke... that's what it's ACTUALLY LIKE, dammit!! n/t

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #29)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:28 PM

33. So how do you feel about the NE Ohio/Western PA omission of "to be"

As in, "The car needs fixed."

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #33)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:34 PM

39. Perhaps the regional dialect users need educated?

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #39)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:40 PM

40. Ouch.

When I first encountered it, teaching in an all-black high school in NE Ohio (after growing up in Nebraska), I thought it was a black dialect. Then I started to run into Western PA white folks who speak the same way.

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Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #21)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:35 PM

44. Only outdone by quotation marks as "emphasis"

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Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #21)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 10:12 PM

67. Good one!

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #19)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 04:42 PM

52. THANKS!



I try not to come down on people's use of mechanics too often because even my fingers make keyboard mistakes occasionally.

Peace.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:05 PM

20. Bwaaaaahaaahaaahaaa!!!

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Bwaaahaha!
Bwahaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaa!



So. Motherfucking. Funny!

Peace.

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Response to Wawannabe (Reply #20)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:13 PM

27. I agree

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:10 PM

25. What if I say

"This administration is predicated on racist, motherfucking bullshittery"

Is it "on" or "upon?"

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #25)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 04:52 PM

53. Formal vs. informal

I prefer "on" because of its informality, which differs from something formal, such as formal "impeachment hearings" or a formal "censure" of a bullshitting motherfucker in the White House.

Certainly the invoking of the 25th Amendment would call for the more formal "upon": "Upon acknowledgement of the racist assholery of the motherfucking piece of shit in the White House, the people of the United States of America call upon their government to invoke the 25th Amendment to the Constitution in order to end this bullshit. And we'll worry about that closeted wanker Pence later."

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:13 PM

26. This is the best thing

I have read in a long time!!!!

Bad Language Grammar Rules by Leonard Pinth Carnell

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:16 PM

28. !

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:17 PM

30. I think I've got it now.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:18 PM

31. Now can we discuss "dickhead" the noun, and "dickheaded" the adjective? n/t

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #31)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:37 PM

62. There's also "mushroom dicked,"

which doesn’t need to be hyphenated in the predicate but would be hyphenated when preceding the noun it modifies:
“It is high time we impeached the mushroom-dicked, piece-of-shit, racist, asshole, dickheaded motherfucker.”

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Response to klook (Reply #62)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:49 PM

65. Thumb-up emoji

Heart emoji

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Response to jayschool2013 (Reply #65)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 10:04 PM

66. Thanks,

Motherfucker! You are a gentleman and a scholar. Well, a scholar, anyway!

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:23 PM

32. Should be publushed

In every Jr high text book
Thanks

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Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #32)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:47 PM

59. Yes!

How to teach grammar to 12-year-old kids so that they will care! Also, you'd get in a good civics lesson in the process.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:28 PM

34. Maybe some new emotes would help.

If you want the Deplorables to understand, you need to draw a picture.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:29 PM

35. post of the year!

Outstanding.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:33 PM

38. When describing Trump...

I always try to use as many derogatory descriptors as possible. The problem is, there aren't enough derogatory descriptors in the English language to accurately describe that motherfucking, racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, homophobic, sexually predatory, piece-of-shit, dumb-as-a-bag-of-hair, mushroom dicked, demented asshole. Any help in that area?

And thanks for the lesson. We should all strive to be better writers.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #38)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:47 PM

54. I love it.

Descriptive language is a beautiful thing.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:48 PM

41. One little "oopsy" ...

In 2) above, you need a possessive "its" so that your sentence reads:

2) "Racist can be used as both a noun and an adjective, so its placement in your sentence depends on how you use it: ..."

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Response to kooth (Reply #41)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 04:29 PM

49. THANKS!

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:50 PM

42. Thank you for your scholarly advice

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:53 PM

43. However, you did miss a few

Is "cocksucker" freely substitutable for motherfucker, or should we just use "asshole" or "dickhead" instead?

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:35 PM

45. Thank you so much - I missed that week in 6th grade

missed it on the measurement tests also.

One more question - Is "shithole" one word or two? Or is it hyphenated?

"The motherfucking, piece-of-shit president is turning this country. into a shithole country."

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:38 PM

46. Thank you for these handy tips. nt

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:46 PM

47. when describing Donald Fucking Trump

I don't follow the rules....the man is a fascist racist piece of utter fucking SHIT

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:52 PM

48. Is it acceptable to write "his base base"?

His cult is his base of voters and is a noun. Those voters lack moral principles and rules so they are "base", an adjective. So in describing his cult can you write "His base base applauded his racist speech"?

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 04:32 PM

51. Glad to be the 100th rec in this thread

Well done, OP!

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:51 PM

55. Thoughts and prayers for be-best grammar.

Oh, if only we could get DUers to write "between you and me" (cf: "I". And you're for "you are". And distinguish between there, their, and they're.

Thoughts and prayers for be-best grammar.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:58 PM

58. Oh well done!

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:52 PM

60. I'm a middle-aged woman with an English degree...

and I FUCKING LOVE THIS!

Thank you!

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:38 PM

63. Superbly done.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:45 PM

64. K and r

Good work

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 10:29 PM

68. Did this come from the Chicago Book of Style? Which version?

Depending on the version, "mother-fucking cocksucker asslicker" can be rendered several different ways.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #68)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 07:03 AM

79. I'm an AP guy

Journalism, don't you know.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 11:48 PM

69. Thank you so so much for that jayschool.

I'm still fucking laughing.

That needs to go viral. Anybody?

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 04:57 AM

71. This thread is hilarious.

Thanks for the humor!

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 05:02 AM

72. I so needed the belly laugh that...

...this is providing.

Many thanks!

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 06:45 AM

75. I wish my picky high school English teacher was alive to read that.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 06:55 AM

77. I recommend "that small-hand mothertrumping racist piece of stable trumpwad". . . . nt

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 07:01 AM

78. Let's add "tiny-dicked" to the list, which has its own punctuation challenges. n/t

 

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 07:16 AM

80. To be even more accurate...

Replace "mother" with "daughter"

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Response to Ohiya (Reply #80)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 07:36 AM

81. NOOOOO!!!!

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 08:16 AM

82. Different "from" in number 3

Otherwise: awesome

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Response to Brainstormy (Reply #82)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 09:30 AM

83. We all need editors

Heart emoji

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 10:31 AM

84. Splendid!

And remember, if you're going to refer to the president and someone else in his cabinet in the same sentence both as a "piece of shit", the pluralization goes to "piece" not to "shit", so it would then be "those motherfucking pieces-of-shit Donald Trump and Kellyanne Conway are racist motherfuckers". (but not, as some might expect, mothersfucker)

Channeling my inner William Saffire.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 10:43 AM

85. The POTUS is a MFing, racist POS.

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Response to jayschool2013 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 10:43 AM

86. Thank you

Excellent and lyrical review of grammar, for out times.

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