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Tue Jul 16, 2019, 09:25 AM

 

Pelosi will quote Reagan

Speaker Pelosi is showing support for our 4 brave Representatives by putting a resolution on the House floor condemning Trump's racist tweets. Republicans will be on record as being pro racist. The resolution is supposed to be brought to the House floor around 7 PM tonight. Speaker Pelosi is one shrewd lady, she is quoting Reagan in her resolution.

"Our Republican colleagues must join us in condemning the President’s xenophobic tweets. Please join us in supporting a forthcoming resolution sponsored by Congressman Tom Malinowski, who was born abroad, and Congressman Jamie Raskin, along with other Democratic Members born abroad referencing President Ronald Reagan's last speech as President in which he said, "Thanks to each wave of new arrivals to this land of opportunity, we're a nation forever young, forever bursting with energy and new ideas, and always on the cutting edge, always leading the world to the next frontier… If we ever closed the door to new Americans, our leadership in the world would soon be lost."

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Reply Pelosi will quote Reagan (Original post)
watoos Jul 2019 OP
Maven Jul 2019 #1
dalton99a Jul 2019 #3
Maven Jul 2019 #10
dalton99a Jul 2019 #13
mcar Jul 2019 #2
NewJeffCT Jul 2019 #4
Ligyron Jul 2019 #18
watoos Jul 2019 #5
NewJeffCT Jul 2019 #7
trev Jul 2019 #34
Moral Compass Jul 2019 #6
NewJeffCT Jul 2019 #8
DENVERPOPS Jul 2019 #15
Moral Compass Jul 2019 #19
patphil Jul 2019 #9
Dirty Socialist Jul 2019 #11
Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #16
FakeNoose Jul 2019 #12
Scurrilous Jul 2019 #14
DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 #17
Dirty Socialist Jul 2019 #20
DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 #21
melman Jul 2019 #25
DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 #27
angrychair Jul 2019 #31
DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 #32
angrychair Jul 2019 #37
gtar100 Jul 2019 #22
Dirty Socialist Jul 2019 #24
angrychair Jul 2019 #23
stillcool Jul 2019 #26
angrychair Jul 2019 #30
Raine Jul 2019 #36
DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 #33
Raine Jul 2019 #29
watoos Jul 2019 #28
Brother Buzz Jul 2019 #35

Response to watoos (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 09:49 AM

1. The tweets are not just xenophobic, they are RACIST

Why doesn't her statement say that? It's almost like she's downplaying the malicious intent behind the tweets. Trump literally told 4 women of color to "go back where you came from" and this is the best we can muster? Some pabulum courtesy of Reagan, as if the 1980s GOP weren't just as racist but in a softer tone of voice? Did they think that was clever? Ugh

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Response to Maven (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 10:19 AM

3. It's in the proposed resolution:

Whereas President Donald Trump’s racist comments have legitimized fear and hatred of new Americans and people of color: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives—

(1) believes that immigrants and their descendants have made America stronger, and that those who take the oath of citizenship are every bit as American as those whose families have lived in the United States for many generations;

(2) is committed to keeping America open to those lawfully seeking refuge and asylum from violence and oppression, and those who are willing to work hard to live the American Dream, no matter their race, ethnicity, faith, or country of origin; and

(3) strongly condemns President Donald Trump’s racist comments that have legitimized and increased fear and hatred of new Americans and people of color by saying that our fellow Americans who are immigrants, and those who may look to the President like immigrants, should ‘‘go back’’ to other countries, by referring to immigrants and asylum seekers as ‘‘invaders,’’ and by saying that Members of Congress who are immigrants (or those of our colleagues who are wrongly assumed to be immigrants) do not belong in Congress or in the United States of America.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 10:58 AM

10. Yes, I read the entire resolution and the word 'racism' is used however overall it is a muddled

mess of platitudes that lacks directness and moral clarity. It is also mostly about immigration, which is an important issue but it is NOT the animus behind those tweets at AOC and the other Congresswomen. Racism is. I mean, even on an issue so clear and stark as this one we cannot have a clear message. It is absolutely maddening. Meanwhile, Republicans now have an opening to portray this as a policy dispute about immigration and not about Trump's racism which is exactly what they are doing as we speak.

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Response to Maven (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:11 AM

13. +1. Agree with you that it is weak and it will be ignored by Republicans

What we really need is impeachment proceedings, not a piece of paper to be filed away in the National Archives

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Response to watoos (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 09:52 AM

2. That is going to make them squirm

Well done, Madam Speaker!

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Response to mcar (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 10:36 AM

4. Republicans will say something like

while Donny's comments were inappropriate, he was just responding to anti-American and/or anti-Semetic comments from the four women and that any resolution should also condemn those four women.

I 100% don't agree, but I think that will be most of their responses.



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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:33 AM

18. Watch the Senate condemn those 4.

You know, because they want to be perfectly clear they support Dump and hate immigrants and Democrats.

Their base is gonna love it too.

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Response to watoos (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 10:42 AM

5. Pelosi will get Republicans on record,

 

as condoning Trump's racism, which is itself racism.

When we go to vote in 2020 don't forget that (R) beside a candidate's name stands for racist.

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Response to watoos (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 10:47 AM

7. This is their current response to that

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 04:04 PM

34. Someone needs to make him define "socialism."

I'm betting he can't do it.

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Response to watoos (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 10:46 AM

6. Regarding the Reagan quote

I am constantly struck by how old Trump’s attitudes and ideas are...walls, tarriffs, Supply-side economics, misogyny, overt racism. Am I the only one that sees this?

Reagan got this one right. God curse his soul.

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Response to Moral Compass (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 10:55 AM

8. I've thought about that before as well

I thought tariffs went out of style some time around the Great Depression

Walls went out of style with the Maginot Line not stopping the German invasion of France in 1940.

Black people are "stupid" and women, no matter the age, must do what the man says, even if it means submitting to rape. (whenever he tweets about somebody black, they almost always get called dumb or stupid or something like that)

He seems to be living in a idealized 1950s white America in his mind. Or, maybe the Roaring 20s.

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Response to Moral Compass (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:24 AM

15. Screw Reagan worshippers

I loathe the phrase "Reagan Democrat"..........as if it is something to show with pride.

AND FOR THE RECORD, REAGAN WASN'T RUNNING THINGS, HE WAS ALREADY HAVING MENTAL PROBLEMS WHEN HE WAS ELECTED.........IT WAS HIS ADMINISTRATION: HW BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, WOLFOWITZ, PEARL AND A HUNDRED OTHERS.

THAT ADMINISTRATION INITIATED HUNDREDS OF THINGS THAT GOT THE BALL ROLLING. THINGS THAT SCREWED US THEN, AND ARE STILL SCREWING US ROYAL. AFTER THE REPUBS GOT THAT TRIAL RUN UNDER THEIR BELTS, IT CONVINCED THEM THAT THEY COULD DOMINATE THE ENTIRE U.S. BY ROLLING OUT THEIR ENTIRE PROGRAM......THINK "PROJECT NEW AMERICAN CENTURY" 1997.....

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:36 AM

19. Uh, your caps lock is on...

My post was in no way supporting Reagan. He was a good speaker. His speech writers, at times, put some nice words together.

I’m fully aware that most of the disaster we are living through is due to Reagan successfully putting a genial face on cruel and damaging policy that has led to where we are today.

Thus, the final line, “God curse his soul.”

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Response to watoos (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 10:56 AM

9. My daughter was just banned from Twitter

for criticizing Trump and Pence regarding the internment camps and Trump's racist tweets.
Yeah, she's a bit quick to say what's on her mind, but certainly no worse than Trump.

Trump should have been banned from Twitter for his racist tweet. It was a more severe violation of policy than my daughter's tweet.
But, you know, he has always been able to break the rules and get away with it.
The double standard of money, position, and power will always be given to people like Trump.

Patrick Phillips

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Response to watoos (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:01 AM

11. On a semi-related topic

"Tear down this wall"

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Response to Dirty Socialist (Reply #11)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:27 AM

16. remind GOPers of that one!

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Response to watoos (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:02 AM

12. I hope every news media outlet carries it

... however if this happens at 7 p.m. she will miss tonight's news broadcasts. Even so it's right and necessary that she does this speech. Chump must be slapped down, now.

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Response to watoos (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:12 AM

14. K&R

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Response to watoos (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:30 AM

17. From Reagan's Farewell Address

I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated
what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than
oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and
peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be
city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to
get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #17)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:37 AM

20. An even better quote! nm

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Response to Dirty Socialist (Reply #20)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:46 AM

21. "I hope it will record that I appealed to your best hopes, not your worst fears."

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #21)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 02:45 PM

25. It didn't record that

 

Reagan sucked.

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Response to melman (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 02:57 PM

27. Take it up with the Speaker. She quoted him.

I was helping the Speaker in her quest to contrast the two, a contrast that seems to be supported by seventy one fellow members of our august community, as evidenced by their recommendations of this thread.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #17)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 03:42 PM

31. I'm obviously not part of that vision

I dont believe in gods and anything "God-blessed" is inherently racist, misogynistic and bigoted against anybody that doesn't believe like they do.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #31)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 03:50 PM

32. Is it the reference to God or God's blessing you find objectionable?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #32)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 08:09 PM

37. Yes, no matter who says it

A belief in gods is a tool to control people.

Religion, of any kind, has hampered human development for thousands of years.

Gods no more exist than dragons and elves and werewolves.

I will state again: bigotry, racism and misogyny are heavily rooted in religious teachings.


Those that are different are not welcome.

Those that do not submit are not welcome.

Those that do not bend to the will and interpretation of one man or one book are not welcome.


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Response to watoos (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 12:33 PM

22. One thing's for sure about Reagan,

he had good speech writers. The man Reagan I could never imagine actually thinking those words himself. He did not demonstrate those ideals in his policies and actions. But they are true words nonetheless - each wave of immigrants is a renewal of the American spirit. That I can see firsthand where I live.

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Response to gtar100 (Reply #22)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 02:44 PM

24. Thanks to his speechwriters

Reagan would occasionally uncontrollably lurch upon the truth.

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Response to watoos (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 02:29 PM

23. Quoting Reagan is insulting, not a good thing

Reagan was a racist that solidified the concept of black welfare moms living like queens...fuck Reagan.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 02:54 PM

26. quoting Reagan to ..

ostracize Republicans is a smart thing, unless of course your're Nancy Pelosi. Right?

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Response to stillcool (Reply #26)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 03:34 PM

30. Its bullshit no matter who does it

Glorifying Reagan by quoting him, especially by ANY Democrat, is insulting and demeaning to those that suffered from his statements and resulting policies.

Reagan's statements and resulting policies are the foundation for everything from corporate prisons to trump's rise to power.

Reagan is the foundation that the modern Republican party is built apon.

By speaking of Reagan in positive terms you ask people to ignore the very real, longterm, harm he did.

Fuck reagan.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #30)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 04:23 PM

36. EXACTLY, no Dermocrat should ever say his name except

in a totally derogatory way!

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Response to stillcool (Reply #26)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 03:58 PM

33. Good catch.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 03:32 PM

29. Exactly, Reagan who started his presidential campaign in

Philadelphia, Mississippi to signal all racists he was one of them! I despise that bastard!

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Response to watoos (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 03:02 PM

28. I think we all know here at DU

 

that Reagan fucked the working men and women, got them to vote against their own best interests, got them to take down unions.

The only reason for using a Reagan quote is to throw shit in Republican's faces.

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Response to watoos (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 04:11 PM

35. Unfortunately, the pubs are marching to Reagan's other quote, The Eleventh Commandment.....

Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican

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