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leftstreet

(36,106 posts)
1. Good luck with that
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 11:26 PM
Jul 2019

I agree, but you hardly see our elected representatives try to do anything about voter suppression, gerrymandering, etc

Perhaps in the rarefied DC air the thought of more rabble...

dlk

(11,552 posts)
2. I Agree, Much More Needs to Be Done in that Regard
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 11:30 PM
Jul 2019

I also think we can’t afford to give up on the non-voters. I believe there is enough creativity and ingenuity to find multiple ways of getting non-voters to register and vote. With so much at stake, it’s worth the effort.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
3. indeed - BUT - when we have a hacked election and nothing is done to fix anything...
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 11:38 PM
Jul 2019

apathy is certainly understandable.

The rot - the stink - is very wide and very deep.

dlk

(11,552 posts)
7. Agreed, However, How Much Did Voter Apathy Give the Cheaters a Green Light?
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 10:24 AM
Jul 2019

Passive people are often stepped on.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
4. 90Million eligible voters DID NOT vote in 2016 election!
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 12:14 AM
Jul 2019

Forget reublican voters, let them wallow in hate. Also, I'm skeptical about never trumpers--they talk a good anti-trump game, yet can't trust them., can't count on them. Your right, getting out the vote by focusing on those that opted not to vote in 2016; as well as registering new voters is critical in 2020; Getting out the vote campaign worked for us in 2018, I remain hopeful that 2020 will be a win for our democratic candidate.
#voteblue2020



Turnout
2012 Obama: 65.9m
2016 Clinton: 59.1m = -6.8m
2012 Romney: 60.9m
2016 Trump: 59m = -1.9m
[https://twitter.com/DomenicoNPR]


Projections from the United States Elections Project show that there were 231,556,622 Americans eligible to vote, but 138,884,643 voted. That means that 40 percent didn’t vote, while 60 percent did. The voter turnout will likely increase as the popular vote continues to be counted.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://heavy.com/news/2016/11/eligible-voter-turnout-for-2016-data-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-republican-democrat-popular-vote-registered-results/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwin7J31icDjAhVToZ4KHWtdBPwQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw2JenofQ7DQNNRLQSTB50VN&cf=1&cshid=1563508293325





dlk

(11,552 posts)
9. I Believe This is Doable and Deserves Every Democrat's Attention
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 10:27 AM
Jul 2019

There will be epic cheating in 2020 and turnout is our only hope.

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
5. My sister in law has a liberal Mother and her children with ex husband are fat donnie supporters
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 12:38 AM
Jul 2019

She has brought into the both sides are equally bad because she doesn’t want to piss anybody off so she doesn’t vote. How can I get someone like that to the polls? She is convinced Repukes and the Democratic Party are equally corrupt. Her brother( my husband) has a hard time talking politics with her without losing it.

dlk

(11,552 posts)
6. The Mainstream Media's "Bothsiderism" Has Had a Terrible Impact
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 10:21 AM
Jul 2019

There is no equivalent, moral or otherwise, to Nazi’s openly marching in our streets, kidnapping children at the border and locking them in cages or private citizens raking in hundreds of millions of dollars running concentration camps. There has never been an equivalent to a president who openly brags about sexually assaulting women. It may be helpful to find out what’s issues are most important to her and gently remind her that when she doesn’t vote, she’s giving the person she doesn’t agree with two votes. People who are discouraged or scared often shut down. It must be especially disheartening for her to have children who are Trumpers. If you can let her know she is important and her vote is important, she may come around. To paraphrase, evil triumphs when good people do nothing. Democracy can’t succeed if people don’t vote. Good luck.

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
10. There's undoubtedly a lot of people in her camp, but
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 10:27 AM
Jul 2019

there are millions and millions who don't vote for more prosaic reasons:

Can't get to the polls, have to work
"Too busy" (not busy, just spaced)
Apathy
Don't know how to buy a stamp

13. The thing about appealing to non-voters is you can't do it with ANY candidate
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 10:35 AM
Jul 2019

It has to be someone who appeals to them on issues. I don't think everyone running is equipped to do that because they don't connect with voters on issues like healthcare, climate change, criminal justice, etc. Politicians have to inspire folks to turn out. That's what Obama did in 2008 and 2012. It's a mix of charisma and policy appeal. Obama ran on changing the system in 2008 and that resonated with people after 8 years of a corrupt Bush administration.

There are only a handful of Dems running in 2020 who have that. Some are openly against changing things too much. That's not a winning strategy in my mind.

Takket

(21,560 posts)
14. Maybe filling out a ballot should be mandatory
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 10:45 AM
Jul 2019

Give people the option to just check “I don’t wish to cast any votes” on their ballot and leave the rest blank, but require everyone to do so.

You’d basically need some sort of nationwide absentee mail in ballot system to make this work and/or more voting days since it isn’t fair to expect people who CAN’T make it to vote on Tuesday to be fined.

But I bet if you actually sent those 90 million a ballot at least half of them would fill out votes on it.

dlk

(11,552 posts)
15. We Have to Go All Out, Using Any Strategy that Works
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 10:54 AM
Jul 2019

I think many voters feel invisible. Letting them know that they matter, their vote matters and keying into issues that matter to them works. Also not enough is said about the fact that democracy only exists if the citizens vote and explains the calculated efforts with voter suppression. It’s all hands in deck for the 2020 election. Otherwise, it may very well be our last.

elocs

(22,566 posts)
16. Consequences of the Big Lie: "it doesn't matter who I vote for".
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 11:01 AM
Jul 2019

How many voters on the Left bough into the Big Lie in 2016?
The one that said it didn't matter if you voted for Clinton or not because she and Trump were just the same. I wonder how many would defend their non-choice now?
I'm reading the excuses for a Democratic loss already: gerrymandering (how do you gerrymander a presidential election?), voter suppression, Russian interference. But come election day, if you have not yet voted, going to cast your ballot is the only thing left within your power to do.
After what Trump has done to this nation, how can any sane person claim their vote makes no difference, that the candidates are just the same?

dlk

(11,552 posts)
17. Sadly, Too Many Americans Are Just Plain Lazy
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 11:35 AM
Jul 2019

If something doesn’t directly impact their life, they don’t care or are too intellectually lazy to think about how many issues impact them.

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