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Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:29 PM

Facts speak louder than words

According to Wikipedia the ranks of
Life expectancy among all the counties
Of the world speaks volume against
perpetual lies perpetrated on us every
single day by the GOP.
Almost all Western European, Canada
Australia, even Macaw,Hong Kong
, Bermuda, Cayman Islands and many more ranked ahead of us. We are ranked
At 53. So if we have the best in the
World why are we living shorter life span
Than 52 other counties. Health care
is a basic humane right many of us just
Can't afford it. Our health care
Is great only if one can afford it.
How can America be great if we are
ranked 53?

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Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:33 PM

1. Counterpoint. words speek louder than facts. Depending on THE WORDS.

 

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Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:32 PM

2. Truthfully, our life expectancy is so low because Americans are too darn fat and out

of shape. Infant mortality is high too, and that can be pinned on our healthcare system and cruddy coverage.

But grossly out of shape people is not really a healthcare system issue (except for mental illness).

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:37 PM

3. Not directly healthcare, but other factors in quality of life.

Lack of access to healthy food, stress levels, lack of knowledge about diet and exercise, not enough time for leisure and self care. All of those things tend to be stressed in modern nations with better life expectancy and quality of life standards.

We are sicker because our society is sicker and doesn't value holistic care.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:41 PM

4. You have a point, but there are a lot of gluttons here who just don't care.

Look at trump rallies.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:46 PM

6. Perhaps

Those people are likely just as stressed out and unhappy as other people. The problem with them is that they attribute the problems they are facing to the wrong source. They allow their anger to be directed at people who are in the same predicament as themselves rather than the people who are profiting from their labor, and who set the rules to benefit themselves and pit us against each other.

I too get angry at their stubborn refusal to see the facts and their continued support of a man and a party that doesn't give a damn about them other than a vote and donations.

I do, however, think that they are not merely gluttons. I think they are struggling too, they are just to scared stupid to know who to struggle against.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:52 PM

9. I'm sure they are struggling with something, like hatred and their racism.

Donít think healthcare or diet will help them.

But, I do get your point. Modern life is a struggle and anxiety producing. Throw in poverty or fear of poverty and lack of control, and itís especially hard.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #9)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:55 PM

11. Oh, I have no real sympathy for them.

As you said, just pointing out likely problems.

They are making their choices about how to deal with whatever problems they have and their choices are stupid and destructive. The problem is that they are taking the rest of us down with them.

We are struggling as a nation, with things that materially, there is no reason on earth we should be struggling with, except for the greed and malice of others.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:58 PM

12. I actually think they are more stressed out than most.

They know they are being lied to, but choose not to change it. Change is risky, and it takes work..consistency

They live without hope of a better future. IMO this is where a good deal of their anger comes from

They do not have the faintest idea whatís happening and on some level know it is wrong.

The EVILGELICALS play into it, fux news too

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:10 PM

13. U know when I was reading the ranking

And decided to write about it I knew
Some will attribute our lower ranking
to other factors. I agree totally that there
Are plenty of other factors.
However other factors washes out
when we are talking about population seize
Even if we discount gun violence, auto
Accident etc. we are ranked way up.
Now, fast food,junk food
Drinking excessively and other bad
Health habits are the world over
Aussie, Canada, , Britain , France , many others still way ahead of us. If u go to Hong Kong or macaw there are fast food
Saturation. All have the same problems
But rank way ahead of us.
Do Canadian eat less fast food per capita.
If they do what roll the health authority
Play in education? Still our government
Responsibility.
My wife who is an RN she had unexpected
Kidney pain. Drove her to the emergency
Room she stayed for one and a half day
They did a procedure to take a stone
Out not a brain surgery I got the bill for $74,500.How can we say this is the best in
The World and we are to blame for our
Unhealthy life style?

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:43 PM

5. Many countries now speak to healthcare and wellness

Being overweight is a healthcare issue.

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Response to malaise (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:53 PM

10. Wellness, yes. Something a doctor can likely do to help out of shape trumpsters, not likely.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:38 PM

14. True

High blood pressure and diabetes run rampant as well as swollen ankles and feet from poor circulation as a result of the lack of exercise.

And yet they put racism above their own health and wellness

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Response to malaise (Reply #14)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:55 PM

17. Now, that's definitely true. trumpsters will oppose health coverage for everyone if they think it

will help minorities. Probably the most disgusting characteristic of ignorant white wingers.

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Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:40 PM

15. THIS!

Democratic leaders should be slamming this fact home 24/7. We are in a HEALTH CARE CRISIS. 53rd in life expectancy is a world wide embarassment.

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Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:53 PM

16. It would be interesting

to break life expectancy in each country down by income since our income inequality is so high. I'm betting if you are in the lowest 25% of earners the numbers become appalling.

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Response to flotsam (Reply #16)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:02 PM

18. I read somewhere

If the top 50 percent of Americans were considered, and the bottom 50 percent was not counted, our life expectancy would be #1!

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Response to Dirty Socialist (Reply #18)

Sun Jul 21, 2019, 01:37 PM

19. And that's exactly how the right-wing thinks it should be.

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