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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:03 AM Aug 2019

The story of McConnell/Carson/Gingrich campaigns and Russian servers? It's worse!

First there was this: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212350775

Now this:



Devin Nunes' Mom's Son Devin
@visionsurreal
On 1/24/17, a citizen filed a complaint against Ben Carson's super PAC and its "National Digitial Director," Ron Robinson.

The citizen was under the impression they were donating to Ben Carson's campaign when, in fact, they weren't.

And...


Thread:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1158574600445411328.html
The super PAC went thru several name changes:

National Draft Ben Carson for President Committee -> The 2016 Committee -> Stars and Stripes Forever PAC

🔥The most explosive finding here is the last footnote here... that, by the time the citizen received an e-mail from the Carson PAC on 9/16/15, the PAC already reported 11,000 itemized donations!

This means Robinson had e-mails and personal info of up to at least 11,000 people!

Lastly, Ben Carson's "authorized committee," Carson America, used the PAC's "email list on a rental basis," which explains why they sent an email to the citizen on 11/16/15.

This proves Robinson's PAC collected info on its donors and rented their donor/email list out to Carson!

And, to drive it all home again, Ron Robinson worked with Yandex (Russia's "Google&quot , cryptocurrency, and set up email servers for his clients to bypass @NSAGov and to be "subpoena resistant."

McConnell & Gingrich are also alleged clients of his!
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Chris Vickery

@VickerySec
Here it is.
This site is owned/run by a leading GOP digital operative. He runs systems on servers physically located in Russia, and advertised it.
Mitch McConnell is a client. Ben Carson is a client. Gingrich is a client. And many more.

Tell the world.@fbi @fbi @fbi
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16.8K people are talking about this

Keep in mind:

Robinson had "over 100" GOP clients, so he would have data on more than 11,000 people.

Above is solid documentation filed w/ the FEC that would support 11,000 at a minimum... but this is only for Carson's PAC and only prior to Sep 2015.




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The story of McConnell/Carson/Gingrich campaigns and Russian servers? It's worse! (Original Post) Roland99 Aug 2019 OP
I don't know whether to believe Ben Carson knew what they were doing FakeNoose Aug 2019 #1
Well, there's this from 2014... Roland99 Aug 2019 #4
Likely Carson was being set up as the early alternative puppet for Putin if Trump blm Aug 2019 #6
I suspect you are correct. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2019 #10
Agree... ewagner Aug 2019 #15
It had to be around that time Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #25
Boy howdy, I was on that same page. blm Aug 2019 #32
Ben Carson was a neurosurgeon. No easy way to spend a day with someones head open. usaf-vet Aug 2019 #21
Well no he's not stupid, but he is naive FakeNoose Aug 2019 #29
Third option Cosmocat Aug 2019 #34
A lot going on, but this needs to get more MSM coverage. K and R oasis Aug 2019 #2
A "subpoena-proof" server in Russia??? DemocracyMouse Aug 2019 #3
And how many others besides McConnell, Gingrich and Carson?? Roland99 Aug 2019 #5
And the GOP was pi$$ because Hilary had her own private server. usaf-vet Aug 2019 #17
And she testified, under oath, televised, for 11hrs! Roland99 Aug 2019 #24
Hmm....... Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #28
IF a D wins in 2020, the first thing he or she needs to do Cosmocat Aug 2019 #7
👍🏼 blm Aug 2019 #33
K&R!!!! 2naSalit Aug 2019 #8
More evidence against Moscow Mitch showing he IS an russian asset duforsure Aug 2019 #9
The Russians figured out way back when that loon, Reagan was fantisizing nuclear star wars vlyons Aug 2019 #11
But don't you DARE say they switched/rigged any votes. That would be untoward. nt Baltimike Aug 2019 #12
Yeah, RepubliCONS have been feeding US voting systems information, Farmer-Rick Aug 2019 #14
"But no vote counts were rigged and no votes were switched just because..." Botany Aug 2019 #16
Just had a thought about how easy it might be to forge vote cards in advance then switch? BSdetect Aug 2019 #19
Russia was into all 50 states and they were looking @ the hardware & software of the operating ... Botany Aug 2019 #20
Actually that is more difficult than you may think Farmer-Rick Aug 2019 #23
"What would PUTIN want with rigging our election" Baltimike Aug 2019 #35
Round the traitors up and send them home to Mother Russia. Pepsidog Aug 2019 #13
They would be right at home there. They love rampant authority BSdetect Aug 2019 #22
Wouldn't surprise me to find the Kremlin involved in Gingrich's past - 1994 erronis Aug 2019 #18
Kick dalton99a Aug 2019 #26
There are days when I wish I knew Ilsa Aug 2019 #27
There is more! De64 Aug 2019 #30
Follow the $$$$ Roland99 Aug 2019 #31
welcome to DU!!! nt Baltimike Aug 2019 #36

FakeNoose

(32,613 posts)
1. I don't know whether to believe Ben Carson knew what they were doing
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:12 AM
Aug 2019

Carson has been caught sleeping at the wheel more than once. It seems that some RWNJ's have treated him like a useful idiot, if you know what I mean. But I could be wrong about that.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
4. Well, there's this from 2014...
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:33 AM
Aug 2019

Newly emerged photo shows Ben Carson with key employee of sanctioned Russian oligarch
https://thinkprogress.org/why-was-ben-carson-hanging-out-with-the-employee-of-this-sanctioned-russian-oligarch-konstantin-malofeev-alexey-komov-bdb4cd383eaa/amp

Alexey Komov — shown in the photo to the right of Carson — has worked for years to ingratiate himself with the American far right, from partnering with American homeschool organizations to working with Christian fundamentalist groups to even liaising closely with Christian movie reviewers.

blm

(113,037 posts)
6. Likely Carson was being set up as the early alternative puppet for Putin if Trump
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:47 AM
Aug 2019

didn’t pull it off. Russian ops were actively working on this 2016 overthrow operation since 2013.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
10. I suspect you are correct.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:12 AM
Aug 2019

I can't see the Russians hanging their hat on a single candidate. I would imagine they engaged in electoral espionage on behalf of a number of individuals Putin would see as particularly pliable and useful to him. I don't think he much cares which stooge is parked behind the Resolute Desk so long as it is someone he can leverage on his behalf. Can you imagine Donny's ego crush were he to realize Putin just wanted a warm body beholden to him in the White House and didn't really care if it was Trump or someone else?

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
15. Agree...
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 09:09 AM
Aug 2019

There is also the possibility that Putin wanted data from all the factions..not just Donnie's supporters but the whole "universe" of Repbulican Donors/voters.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,401 posts)
25. It had to be around that time
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:02 AM
Aug 2019

that I noticed the proliferation of shirtless pics of Putin on horseback, along with Republican Congressmen pretty openly expressing admiration of him in their attacks on President Obama and thinking it all rather weird.

blm

(113,037 posts)
32. Boy howdy, I was on that same page.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:35 PM
Aug 2019

And Republicans were spreading the manly Putin pics while attacking Obama for riding a bike with his daughters.

Smelled like propaganda from day one.

usaf-vet

(6,178 posts)
21. Ben Carson was a neurosurgeon. No easy way to spend a day with someones head open.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:03 AM
Aug 2019

So to think he might not know what is going on in his political world means one of two things to me.

1. He is suffering from Dementia / Alzheimers.
Therefore he isn't qualified to hold the office.

2. It's a political ploy to use as a defense if called to task.
In other words, he's another Trump Con man stealing from the taxpayers.

FakeNoose

(32,613 posts)
29. Well no he's not stupid, but he is naive
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:18 AM
Aug 2019

All Ben Carson ever cared about was banning gay marriage, and he had religious reasons for that.

Somehow he wound up being used by some crafty right-wingers who got him to go along with other right-wing issues. I think he's been out of his element for a long time, and he was probably not even there when the Russian collusion was discussed. It seems he's being used and doesn't even realize it. That's my take, but I could be wrong.

Cosmocat

(14,560 posts)
34. Third option
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:41 PM
Aug 2019

not ruling out 1, but this guy SCREAMS writing his own scripts.

I would bet 1,000 he is stoned pretty much every waking second.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
3. A "subpoena-proof" server in Russia???
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:30 AM
Aug 2019

Isn't that what traitors do? Isn't it flagrantly illegal?

Can we expect a press conference delivered by the House judiciary committee by the end of the day?

WTF!

usaf-vet

(6,178 posts)
17. And the GOP was pi$$ because Hilary had her own private server.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 09:44 AM
Aug 2019

How many millions did the taxpayers spend investigating Clinton?

Her emails and Benghazi?

One additional fact demonstrates the skewed priorities of the Republican-controlled Congress.

In 2001-2 Congress created a Joint Inquiry by the House and Senate intelligence committees that held 22 hearings [9 public and 13 closed] into the 9/11 attacks. [See H Rpt 107-792, p. 2]

So far, various panels have held 20 hearings on Benghazi, with the 21st to come on Oct. 22 when Hillary Clinton testifies.

22 to 21 suggests equal significance, doesn't it?


https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2015/10/assessing-the-benghazi-committee/410389/

Cosmocat

(14,560 posts)
7. IF a D wins in 2020, the first thing he or she needs to do
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:51 AM
Aug 2019

I mean drop the luggage at the steps, going straight to the Oval Office, can Barr, and start to put our justice department together, and charge them with starting get serious about American sovereignty.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
9. More evidence against Moscow Mitch showing he IS an russian asset
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:12 AM
Aug 2019

With others for putin. Kentucky voters voting for putin again by voting for Moscow Mitch and all the other KGBOP members of Congress? That would be very dangerous to our Democracy if they did. Wait until the money trail is completely exposed by them. What other Senators are taking russian money from putin?

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
11. The Russians figured out way back when that loon, Reagan was fantisizing nuclear star wars
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:20 AM
Aug 2019

that it was ever so much easier and cheaper to just buy off greedy Republicans, who value money more than their country.

Farmer-Rick

(10,151 posts)
14. Yeah, RepubliCONS have been feeding US voting systems information,
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:44 AM
Aug 2019

Government information, to Russian spies and Putin as far back as 2012 (I couldn't find anything dating back further from the links but it probably goes back further).

It's Not classified information but it is information that costs to accumulate and is sensitive. Former gov't officials feeding voting system info to Russian spies and hackers is very dangerous to our democracy.

But no vote counts were rigged and no votes were switched just because......

Botany

(70,480 posts)
16. "But no vote counts were rigged and no votes were switched just because..."
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 09:37 AM
Aug 2019

... Putin is a nice guy. So the FSB was into our election infrastructure but they didn't do anything?

Funny when we had the old fashioned voting machines where you pulled down a little mechanical
tabs to pick your candidate or issue and then you voted when you opened the curtain by pulling
the lever that opened the curtain the exit polls matched the vote but after HAVA (help America
vote act) the exit polls stopped matching the vote. McConnell knows that dirty voting has kept
Republicans in power and that in 2016 "the fix was in" hence his blocking of Merrick Garland.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
19. Just had a thought about how easy it might be to forge vote cards in advance then switch?
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 09:46 AM
Aug 2019

Tell me that can never happen.

Botany

(70,480 posts)
20. Russia was into all 50 states and they were looking @ the hardware & software of the operating ...
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 09:51 AM
Aug 2019

... systems for the voting machines and or central tabulators and that the FSB hacked voter roll
d-bases all over America and yet the didn't meddle in the outcome is laughable.

Farmer-Rick

(10,151 posts)
23. Actually that is more difficult than you may think
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:21 AM
Aug 2019

First there is some amount of bulk involved if you are going to make an impact on millions of votes. Someone is going to see you or record you on camera carying the bulk and stuffing them. Even if they merely see you going in and out of your car with a big package.

Then you will have to spend a lot of time making those ballot resemble the actual ballot and actual people who vote. Then you have to make each one look different so someone seeing the same signature over and over again may find you out.

Then you will probably need someone to get you through all the layers of security. You can't just walk up and put ballots in a box, you have to sign in. You are watched when you put your ballot in. You are watched coming in. It would require help.

With computers it is so much easier. Some machines and counting software, as reported in Wire, only needs the right radio signal to switch votes. A radio signal that can be sent from 2 blocks over. And you can switch hundreds of thousands of votes at a pop.

So much more simple especially when you have Russian spies with lots of capital helping you out.

erronis

(15,216 posts)
18. Wouldn't surprise me to find the Kremlin involved in Gingrich's past - 1994
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 09:45 AM
Aug 2019

Back when the intelligence service was called the KGB - the predecessor to Putin's FSB. In fact, the repuglicon party may just be a front for the USSR.

Strange: looking up "gingrich ussr" brings up this gentleman's wikipedia page: Genrikh Yagoda

Genrikh Grigoryevich Yagoda (Russian: Ге́нрих Григо́рьевич Яго́да, 7 November 1891 – 15 March 1938), born Yenokh Gershevich Iyeguda was a secret police official who served as director of the NKVD, the Soviet Union's security and intelligence agency, from 1934 to 1936. Appointed by Joseph Stalin, Yagoda supervised the arrest, show trial, and execution of the Old Bolsheviks Lev Kamenev and Grigory Zinoviev, climactic events of the Great Purge. Yagoda supervised the construction of the White Sea–Baltic Canal with Naftaly Frenkel, using penal labor from the GULAG system.

Ilsa

(61,691 posts)
27. There are days when I wish I knew
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:08 AM
Aug 2019

how to do computer/ internet stuff like hacking or being able to fuck with a group like McConnell's online, especially since they are centered in Russia.

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