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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:26 AM Aug 2019

I wouldn't doubt Epstein killed himself, I really wouldn't ... he had no reason not to ... BUT

That doesn't mean I don't also think:

1) He wasn't just allowed to, but encouraged to, by all means possible, while in custody of Barr. Guards probably accidentally dropped big bottles of sleeping pills in his cell, beer bottles, etc.

2) That he wasn't finally rounded up specifically for this purpose. He was a HUGE loose end out there. When that Brown article came out in November of 2018, it was a HUGE wake-up call for a LOT of very powerful people, Trump included. He had to be taken out of circulation, and if there was ANY way to make it permanent, before testifying ... it was to be encouraged.

The idea however that he might not really be dead? C'mon people. Lets not get all 'Elvis Fan' here. NOBODY would want some secret escape for this guy. Then he's a BIGGER loose end. He ain't THAT powerful, nor that well-liked, by anyone.

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I wouldn't doubt Epstein killed himself, I really wouldn't ... he had no reason not to ... BUT (Original Post) mr_lebowski Aug 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Ptah Aug 2019 #1
I agree, with most of this kozar Aug 2019 #2
Three things come to mind ... RKP5637 Aug 2019 #3
Maybe suicide watch only lasts for a set time captain queeg Aug 2019 #4

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kozar

(2,088 posts)
2. I agree, with most of this
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:35 AM
Aug 2019

except, the wake up call part.. Im not sure that the "buddies" of Epstein who preyed on young women have the ability to control their frickin illness enough to have a "wake up call" I made a chess analogy in another post,,will pm you that text. I just don't see anyone predator involved,, having any kind of "enlightening moment " today.

Koz

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
3. Three things come to mind ...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:42 AM
Aug 2019

1. How do you kill yourself on suicide watch?
2. His death seems too convenient.
3. No article I've seen provides much detail on how he did it ... what he used. I thought cells were stripped on suicide watch and minimal of clothes worn. ... plus cameras.

Not trying to say anything ... just thoughts that came to mind.


captain queeg

(10,096 posts)
4. Maybe suicide watch only lasts for a set time
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 12:04 PM
Aug 2019

Maybe he was acting better and they either rescinded the watch or just got lax. I think he was just in a cell like other inmates not a special facility. I imagine the guards have plenty of other concerns than just one guy.

But the idea that he’s escaped and some other stiff substituted is pretty far out there. Like Hitler escaping Berlin at the end of the war. Actually that theory holds more water, but also is just the stuff of movies.

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