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albacore

(2,386 posts)
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 04:55 PM Aug 2019

About Epstein.....Stalin said it best....

(At this point, I have NO idea where I picked this up. Could have been at DU. My old head is swimming. Have you folks noticed that there are about 5 major news items a day that make you say "WTFF???" And then there's follow-ups on all of them. Information/outrage overload!! Anyway... here...)

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About Epstein.....Stalin said it best.... (Original Post) albacore Aug 2019 OP
NO he did NOT kill himself Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #1
Proof ? OnDoutside Aug 2019 #2
Okay. But what will ever satisfy the conspiracy theorists? Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #4
That's the way of the world unfortunately. It's where we are. I'm OnDoutside Aug 2019 #5
That's the problem with certainty Codeine Aug 2019 #6
That's just it. Those who believe Trump did it will think he covered everything up. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #8
I miss the old days on DU Codeine Aug 2019 #9
What many here don't seem to understand is that they're fueling Clinton conspiracies... Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #10
Absolutely. Codeine Aug 2019 #11
if i understand you correctly i must accept the official story rampartc Aug 2019 #27
Nope. You're free to believe what you want. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #29
How many assassinations has Mosad carried off? elevator48 Aug 2019 #13
Whoa! Codeine Aug 2019 #17
I don't think there is any parity between the Clintons and Trump. triron Aug 2019 #16
Because they're the three who seem to be at the heart of these conspiracies. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #24
The autopsy will be fixed rpannier Aug 2019 #23
I think Epstein absolutely committed suicide, BUT ... jimlup Aug 2019 #7
That sounds possible! nt USALiberal Aug 2019 #19
People who think he was murdered won't believe the autopsy report if it says suicide. n/t zackymilly Aug 2019 #14
Of course they won't. OnDoutside Aug 2019 #25
I don't even believe he's dead, probably in Saudi Arabia. Meadowoak Aug 2019 #28
Make believe is fun! nt USALiberal Aug 2019 #18
Not a Stalin quote. Codeine Aug 2019 #3
I have 4 quote sources that say it is....nt albacore Aug 2019 #12
That's because Rybakov attributed it Codeine Aug 2019 #22
Even if Stalin didn't say it, he certainly acted upon it. LisaL Aug 2019 #15
Indeed. He is responsible for at least 6 million deaths -- of his own people. SunSeeker Aug 2019 #21
Stalin Documentaries bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #20
Have no idea what really happened marlakay Aug 2019 #26
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
4. Okay. But what will ever satisfy the conspiracy theorists?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:04 PM
Aug 2019

An autopsy comes out and why should anyone take it at its word? It could be just as corrupted. There could be video evidence of him hanging himself and people will still doubt it.

OnDoutside

(19,905 posts)
5. That's the way of the world unfortunately. It's where we are. I'm
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:08 PM
Aug 2019

expecting nothing.

What is depressing is we have until 2021 to start getting to the bottom of all that's gone on but even then there's no guarantee that the evidence will remain. I would LOVE some big wins for a change.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
6. That's the problem with certainty
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:10 PM
Aug 2019

in the face of zero supporting fact. If you can convince yourself of something without any evidence then you’ve essentially declared evidence to be meaningless and easily discounted or ignored.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
8. That's just it. Those who believe Trump did it will think he covered everything up.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:16 PM
Aug 2019

Those who think the Clintons did it will think they covered everything up.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
10. What many here don't seem to understand is that they're fueling Clinton conspiracies...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:22 PM
Aug 2019

By giving credence to the doubt, it feeds the narrative and, unfortunately, much of the conspiracy world has been corrupted by anti-Clinton forces who believe they're responsible for everything. We've got dueling conspiracy theories but the one winning out right now is about Clinton - not Trump. That's the dangerous game of playing, "something doesn't add up here..."

rampartc

(5,263 posts)
27. if i understand you correctly i must accept the official story
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 04:46 AM
Aug 2019

in order to maintain the Clintons' innocence?

being blamed by the right wing nut jobs for everything just goes with the territory for Clintons. that is just part of the yuuuge tsunami of bullshit upon which trump surfs.

i'm sorry about that. Clintons are way down on my list of suspects, but I remain skeptical about the official story.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
29. Nope. You're free to believe what you want.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:49 PM
Aug 2019

Just don't get upset if the larger narrative focuses on Clinton and not who you believe might be responsible. You open the door to the conspiracy and you can't start questioning what walks through. The same basic arguments being used here to tie this to Trump are literally the same arguments being used to tie this to the Clintons.

 

elevator48

(53 posts)
13. How many assassinations has Mosad carried off?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:47 PM
Aug 2019

Hundreds? They are certainly on any list of suspects, if he was indeed murdered. There is also "speculation" that he did work for them. Early retirement?

triron

(21,914 posts)
16. I don't think there is any parity between the Clintons and Trump.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:40 PM
Aug 2019

Why are you lumping the 2 together????

rpannier

(24,304 posts)
23. The autopsy will be fixed
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:00 PM
Aug 2019

If they have an open casket funeral the body will be someone on which they performed plastic surgery
The video would be staged and fraudulent (and with all the stories coming out about how they are getting much better at creating fake videos, this will add further fuel to the fire)

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
7. I think Epstein absolutely committed suicide, BUT ...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 05:16 PM
Aug 2019

I'd also bet money that he paid someone off to be "taken off suicide watch." He knew he had to get out of justice and it was all that he had left - that and money...

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
22. That's because Rybakov attributed it
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:59 PM
Aug 2019

to him in his novel Children of the Arbat, but he later admitted that he had no source for it. By that time Rybakov’s fame had decreased so the correction did not travel as far as the original quote.

And in fairness, it sounds like something the bastard would have said, so it stuck.

marlakay

(11,370 posts)
26. Have no idea what really happened
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 03:51 AM
Aug 2019

But I do know it shoved the coverage of the mass shootings and gun control right off the news and for once they were gaining a bit of strength.

Thats the problem every time something gets real honest communication about it, bing the next big thing comes along and knocks it right off.

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