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Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:56 PM

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Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:01 PM

1. #2

Now that is interesting...if, and I say if, the CTs are correct and his departure was helped along by some who wanted to stop the investigation, they've just put their own neck in the noose, so to speak.

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Response to Me. (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:28 PM

2. Trump IS that stupid

What is that about unintended consequences?

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:31 PM

3. THIS !!!!

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Response to Me. (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:37 PM

6. This is one reason I think it's likely he did it himself.

I can't think of any way his death helps others who were involved in this criminal activity. If anything, his death now heightens scrutiny of others' behavior.

The prosecutors and victims are out for blood now, and nobody will blame them.

I want to see them all brought up on charges: Ghislaine Maxwell, the pilots, the executive assistants, the facility managers - all the people who aided and abetted Epstein's kidnapping, rape, and torture of children.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:47 PM

8. And Don't Forget The Participants

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Response to yardwork (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 02:56 PM

10. I'm with you. I think he did himself in.

 

I believe he was allowed to do this when he should not have been. I haven't the slightest clue who really let it happen. If there was an order from the top down to the warden or not. We'll never know for sure.

I believe he saw the gig was up. That this time around he was not going to get a light sentence with no real consequences to himself. Everyone knows what happens to child molesters in prison. I think he did it to avoid spending the rest of his life in jail.

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Response to bitterross (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:04 PM

17. I agree on the why, and I think he bribed guards.

I don't believe that Trump et al is relieved he's dead. It turned up the heat.

And now, apparently, nobody has standing to protest the stuff found with search warrants? This can't be good for Dershowitz and the others. Apparently Epstein kept photos and tapes, and now it can all come out.

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Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:33 PM

4. So, in effect, Epsteins death was his dead-man's switch?

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Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:37 PM

5. Did someone inherit his property and assets?

Epstein has a brother, at least, and maybe other family members still living. How does the government think they have control of Epstein's property? It's still privately owned.




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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 03:09 PM

11. I think the issue is with the stuff taken already under the search warrant.

The brother might not have standing to fight the use of those materials in court, even if he might inherit them somehow, when the court is done using them in its cases.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #11)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 03:25 PM

13. Only his mansion in Manhattan was raided

He owned luxury properties in several states, plus his island in the Caribbean, and he owned a house in France (maybe elsewhere.) My point is that the government can't just walk in and help themselves.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #13)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 03:39 PM

15. They would need a search warrant. But the brother might not be in a legal position

to fight it - I don't know.

Also, there was a great deal of evidence already collected -- and they were expecting that Epstein would fight the validity of the search warrant in court. Now, apparently, that won't be happening.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #13)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:05 PM

18. They can if they get a search warrant. They need to show probable cause.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 03:15 PM

12. There has been discussion of

the victims suing the estate and getting the assets for the victims.

They already had all the documents, evidence, etc.

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Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:45 PM

7. Houses...multiple homes. They didn't search other residences.

I am afraid that the other residences have been "cleaned".

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Response to AJT (Reply #7)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 02:55 PM

9. Me, too.

It seems to me a thoroughgoing investigation would have included all of his homes. IANAL. Is it normal to search just one domicile? Is it a matter of jurisdictional authority? Can they be included more easily now?

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Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 03:29 PM

14. Haha. Great point. If it can be authenticated then it will be admissible into evidence.

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Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 03:41 PM

16. So if that evidence disappears....

.. we will definitely know the fix is in.

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Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:27 AM

19. Please let Epstein have a habit of recording the nasty doings.

I'd like there to be massive amounts of evidence against these crimes.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #19)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:55 AM

20. Betcha Putin has corroborating evidence...

...of many of the crimes committed by Epstein's friends. Hey, Trump? What are you doin' bout that sweating problem you've developed?

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