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Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:51 PM

'The Sea Will Get as Hot as a Jacuzzi': What Life in Israel Will Be Like in 2100

“The Sea Will Get as Hot as a Jacuzzi': What Life in Israel Will Be Like in 2100

Winter will get much shorter and even nighttime won't offer respite from the heat. Israel is warming up, and by the end of the century we simply won’t be able to exist without air conditioning
Haaretz
By Oded Carmeli Aug 15, 2019

“I’m happy I won’t be alive,” says Baruch Rinkevich of Israel Oceanographic and Limnological Research, who is currently helping to prepare the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s next report on the oceans and the cryosphere.

“After us, the deluge, as the saying goes. People don’t fully understand what we’re talking about here,” explains Prof. Rinkevich, a marine biologist. “They think about melting icebergs and polar bears who won’t have a home. They don’t understand that everything is expected to change: the air we breathe, the food we eat, the water we drink, the landscapes we see, the oceans, the seasons, the daily routine, the quality of life. Our children will have to adapt or become extinct...”

To prepare this report, Haaretz spoke to a number of Israeli scientists from a range of disciplines. All the interviewees were asked to address the anticipated implications of a “moderate” rise of only 2 to 3 degrees Celsius, the midrange of the IPCC forecast. The picture that emerges, however threatening, is the most realistic one for the near future. And even it might be overly optimistic.

...“On the hottest days of the year it will be impossible to exist without an air conditioner,” explains Daniel Rosenfeld, of the Institute of Earth Sciences at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. “It will no longer be a matter of comfort but of survival. A broken air conditioner is liable to become a life-and-death issue.”


A stunning article filled with quotes from thoughtful and brilliant scientists. A long, well written article there is much more here-
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-the-sea-will-get-as-hot-as-a-jacuzzi-what-life-in-israel-will-look-like-in-2100-1.7688062

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Reply 'The Sea Will Get as Hot as a Jacuzzi': What Life in Israel Will Be Like in 2100 (Original post)
bronxiteforever Aug 2019 OP
PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #1
BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #3
femmedem Aug 2019 #5
BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #2
BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #4
greyl Aug 2019 #9
PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #13
smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #6
bronxiteforever Aug 2019 #8
Duppers Aug 2019 #11
DavidDvorkin Aug 2019 #7
littlemissmartypants Aug 2019 #10
dalton99a Aug 2019 #12
bronxiteforever Aug 2019 #17
Duppers Aug 2019 #14
Duppers Aug 2019 #15
bronxiteforever Aug 2019 #18
Duppers Aug 2019 #16
appalachiablue Aug 2019 #19
NickB79 Aug 2019 #20
NickB79 Aug 2019 #21

Response to bronxiteforever (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:59 PM

1. Why I'm glad I have only one child

and will probably never have grandchildren.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:35 PM

3. Why I am glad I chose not to have kids

and encourage my niece to do the same.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:40 PM

5. I also chose not to have children.

I pretend to celebrate my friends' children and grandchildren, but the truth is I feel such grief and fear for them.

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Response to bronxiteforever (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:10 PM

2. Is it bad I'm kind of rooting for extinction?

I’ll be dead and so will everyone I know. Humans have destroyed the planet, it sort of seems fitting it destroys us before beginning to regenerate itself over the following millennia.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:37 PM

4. I wish that if that happens the animals and plants would survive

and thrive on Earth without us destroying them any further. They don't deserve this!

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:04 PM

9. It's not exactly humans, it's a particular human culture that is destroying the planet.

Briefly, it's the relatively young culture who behaves as though Earth was made by God for man to conquer and rule + might makes right. There are old human cultures on Earth surviving right now who are not living out that self-destructive story, so you can at least feel better that it isn't a humanity writ large problem.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:30 PM

13. I am not rooting for extinction.

But I'm glad I'll be gone before it gets completely unlivable.

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Response to bronxiteforever (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:44 PM

6. K&R

There are just way too many people who do not understand the gravity of this issue. How can climate scientists make them understand? Words aren't enough.

We need graphic commercials, ads, anything hard hitting and emotional. People need to understand how serious this is and they will not be persuaded by rational arguments. They need to SEE what it will look like, what will happen to them and their children and grandchildren. They need to know how desperate and un-survivable the situation will be.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:58 PM

8. +1

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:12 PM

11. +10

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Response to bronxiteforever (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 08:42 PM

7. The Middle East problem will finally be solved

No one will be living there.

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Response to bronxiteforever (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:24 PM

10. One sentence stuck with me, from a conference of experts in climate science I attended.

From all that was reported, from every report, one scientist, seemingly frustrated by questions from the audience, glibly said, "Think of it like this: Wet places will get wetter and dry places, drier." That got my attention, with the simple picture it painted. I will never forget it.

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:19 PM

12. +1. Drown, starve, or get roasted.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 08:06 AM

17. Sadly, that about says it all.

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Response to bronxiteforever (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:46 PM

14. 35,000+ people died in 2003 heatwave that scorched Europe

At least 35,000 people died as a result of the record heatwave that scorched Europe in August 2003, says an environmental think tank. The Earth Policy Institute (EPI), based in Washington DC, warns that such deaths are likely to increase, as “even more extreme weather events lie ahead”.Oct 10, 2003


https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4259-the-2003-european-heatwave-caused-35000-deaths/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwik_oClx4bkAhUDFzQIHZJrBvIQFjABegQIDhAI&usg=AOvVaw07CZHF-AhgquzCXKlmpGd1&cf=1&cshid=1565930400554

We will be facing far worse in the coming years.

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Response to bronxiteforever (Original post)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:39 AM

15. Life by 2100? Well...

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We are killing the planet's life, yet Israel has a 3.1 child fertility rate! Why?

A/C and desalination shall become essential solutions, but I think our environment will be much worse than those can solve long-term. Hint: food. Arable land will disappear. Build huge air-conditioned domes where food can be grown? Perhaps, but does Israel in particular have the space? (That brings up more ugly thoughts, such as war and armies to defend these assets.)

And then there's the little problem for all of the planet: Lowered planetary oxygen rates. Warming is increasing exponentially! And it's killing the oxygen-producing phytoplankton in earth's increasingly acidic oceans!* Our major sources of oxygen are those phytoplankton and of course the little remaining rainforest which are now being cut everyday.

I think this article is rather too optimistic and am expecting earth to become a dystopian world by 2100.


*"Phytoplankton are responsible for 70% of Earth's oxygen production. ...Phytoplankton levels have declined by 40% since 1950 due to the warming of the ocean."

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Response to Duppers (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 08:20 AM

18. +1. The clinical term that always strikes me is "nonlinear"

Climate change is nonlinear and that gradual warming on the planet and the rising of the seas may very well be a fantasy. When we are blind to gradual devastating climate change, we are that frightening unprepared for the sudden shocks that are coming.

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Response to bronxiteforever (Original post)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:06 AM

16. Best quote of the article...

"The obvious solution is to have fewer children. In 2017, an important research study, published in the journal Environmental Letters, found that giving birth to one less child is 60 times as effective as all the other actions a person can take to improve the environment combined, such as switching to an electric car, to solar energy or to a vegan diet."



Bless my childless friends! Btw, most of my friends are childless or only have one.

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Response to bronxiteforever (Original post)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:48 PM

19. KR

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Response to bronxiteforever (Original post)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:18 PM

20. A/C will have to run 24 hr a day to prevent heat deaths

But renewables like solar peak in mid-day.

Either we'll build massively expensive energy storage systems that may bankrupt nations, or we'll keep burning fossil fuels even as it kills us.

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