It truly really does not matter who the Democrats nominate for president.

[Yavin4]

If Trump wins, it will be because too many Americans are comfortable with xenophobia, racism, sexism, and having a complete immoral, unethical, criminal buffoon as president. A Trump victory is an indictment on his voters.

It's not about the Democrats moving too far to the left or a candidate's age, sex, race, etc. Every single Democrat running is a better human being than Trump. Someone that your kid can look up to and be inspired by.

I don't want to hear any post-election analysis about the "likeability" of the Dem nominee or that they didn't do enough to reach out to Trump voters. Fuck that bullshit. The man is a fucking incompetent asshole, criminal, and fraud, and people that vote for him are assholes, pure and simple.

[DetlefK]

1. The 2008 election was "third term for GWB" vs "anybody-but-GWB".

[Mister Ed]

2. My own thoughts as well. n/t

[wasupaloopa]

3. It matters because getting out the vote matters. The ticket of President and

Vice President that can get the most voters to the polls is the best ticket.

I’m told that ticket is Biden-Harris

[Chemisse]

4. I wish I could believe that.

It was very obvious who and what Trump was during the runup to the 2016 catastrophe, yet he still slithered in.

I fear that we will have to win by a landslide to even really win!

[Zambero]

5. It does matter

Trump is everything described. And yes, his assholian base will still turn out to vote for him. Others who were deceived and misguided and would consider voting against him in 2020 will determine the outcome of the election.

[Dave Starsky]

8. His base is nothing short of a religious cult.

They will do absolutely anything to please their master.

If Congress passed a bill making it illegal to drink liquid drain cleaner, they would YouTube themselves laughing while they chug-a-lug full bottles of Drano. And I really wish Congress would do that.

[NewJeffCT]

11. if we make the election about Trump

and his racism and sexism, it won't matter. Trump is uniting Democrats and we need to use him to drive up turnout on our side - we have more people and the moderates will be turned off by the rampant racism and sexism of Trump.

In 2016, there was so much Trump corruption and scandal already out there and the media and Clinton focused on way too many of them.

The guy that ran two campaigns against David Duke made some great points - in 1990 for Senate, they ran on the issues and Duke's corruption and his racism. The lack of focus led to a small Democratic win of about 10 points. The next year, Duke ran again and for governor and this time they (the Democrats) focused just on Duke's racism and won by 22 points, or more than double the margin. And, this was in red southern state Louisiana.

Focus on RACISM and SEXISM

Yes, with Trump you have fraud, taxes, horrible policies, scandalous deregulation, corruption, cronyism, nepotism, collusion with Russia and others, etc. However, that's too much info for the average voter. All those scandals will be given equal footing to a Biden gaffe or a Warren's heritage or similar.

[LonePirate]

6. The likeability argument will only arise if a certain candidate is not nominated.

And it will be that candidate's supporters who start the likeability nonsense.

[uponit7771]

7. Or Trump cheated ... again

[Initech]

9. It seems humanity is not only turning to, but embracing the dark side.

Good and decent are being shoved out for darkness and insanity. People the entire world over are moving in favor of fascism and dictatorships, white supremacism and racism over freedom and progress. It's gonna take a lot to sort out this mess. I'm personally in favor of killing the head vampire but that could take a lot of time and effort to do so.

[Yavin4]

12. Fall out from the failures of global capitalism

which was sold to the world as the best mechanism for lifting people out of poverty.

[Initech]

15. It lifted the billionaires out of poverty.

Those of us not lucky enough to be born with a silver spoon in our mouths are left to our own devices.

[kentuck]

10. I have thought for some time that the best candidate for the Democratic Party....?

...would be someone like a Jon Tester, the corpulent Senator from Montana? Not the most controversial or admittingly, not the most attractive, but someone that was willing to speak his mind and tell people why he is a Democrat. I thought someone like that might be a good choice for Democrats.

I think any of the Democrats should beat Trump. They need to maintain the Obama coalition, in my opinion, however.

[onenote]

13. Jon Tester would not "maintain the Obama coalition".

If that's your goal, then someone from a state with fewer than 5,000 African Americans out of a population of 1 million ( the smallest number of African Americans of any state) isn't going to cut it.

[kentuck]

14. Even with Kamala Harris or a Corey Booker on the ticket?

I probably unfairly used Tester as an example. Of course, he is not going to run for President. But, my point being, that it probably doesn't matter who the Democrats nominate. People will vote for or against the incumbent. For whatever reason they decide to vote?

[lastlib]

16. The only way I will reach out to tRump supporters is with heavy lumber.

I wouldn't touch them with anything less.

[sandensea]

17. And if he 'wins', it'll be because they cheated

Putin and Bibi are working on it as speak - including malware that can electronically switch votes (strongly suspected to have been used already, mainly by way of authentic-looking e-mails that election officials themselves unwittingly activate).

We ignore these machinations at our peril.