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bronxiteforever

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Mon Aug 26, 2019, 02:53 PM Aug 2019

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And therefor, DeSantis will stomp for shithole . . . Iliyah Aug 2019 #1
DeSantis is a racist and a pos crook rockfordfile Aug 2019 #2
DeRacist has kept a pretty low profile mcar Aug 2019 #3
Good point. bronxiteforever Aug 2019 #4
Agreed -- he's left MMJ alone, too obamanut2012 Aug 2019 #6
It is amazing that Debigot(love that) is considered a moderate bronxiteforever Aug 2019 #7
And Scott won 2 terms and cheated mcar Aug 2019 #9
This is just one indicator why those who believe Trump will definitely lose is very complacent still_one Aug 2019 #5
+1000 we definitely have to win the Midwest and Pa. bronxiteforever Aug 2019 #8
President Obama won Florida twice, President Clinton won Florida once. Blue_true Aug 2019 #10
I would adjust the score as Gore would have easily won with no cheating karynnj Aug 2019 #11
Actually the bad ballot was in Broward County. Blue_true Aug 2019 #13
Yes, but the 2000 Bad Ballot was in Palm Beach County RockaFowler Aug 2019 #16
I stand corrected. Broward was the issue last November. Blue_true Aug 2019 #18
I agree but ignoring Fl.and not counting on it are 2 different things. bronxiteforever Aug 2019 #12
Florida is winnable for us when campaigns canvass the whole state. Blue_true Aug 2019 #14
That is interesting. I did not know that. bronxiteforever Aug 2019 #15
No. Florida is a must-win. If we have to pick just three states to pour resources into, it's MI, PA, jpljr77 Aug 2019 #17
No way in hell. Florida voted for Obama twice. GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #19

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. And therefor, DeSantis will stomp for shithole . . .
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 03:14 PM
Aug 2019

rockfordfile

(8,701 posts)
2. DeSantis is a racist and a pos crook
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 03:21 PM
Aug 2019

mcar

(42,298 posts)
3. DeRacist has kept a pretty low profile
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 04:39 PM
Aug 2019

Except for the Amendment 4 shenanigans. Could be why he's polling well.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
4. Good point.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 05:23 PM
Aug 2019

obamanut2012

(26,064 posts)
6. Agreed -- he's left MMJ alone, too
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 05:50 PM
Aug 2019

Which Rick Scott kept going after. That ship has sailed, and DeBigot is smafrt enough to know it.

Amendment 4 changes will lose in lawsuits, but that will take a while to bite him. I loathe him, he is a racist and a crook and a misogynist, just smarter about it than Rick Scott.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
7. It is amazing that Debigot(love that) is considered a moderate
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 05:56 PM
Aug 2019

In Florida. He is just another in a long line of odious GOP Florida politicians. But I guess that is Florida right now. IT45 is still easily able to win the state, even after all he has done.

mcar

(42,298 posts)
9. And Scott won 2 terms and cheated
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:02 PM
Aug 2019

Nelson out of a Senate seat.

still_one

(92,116 posts)
5. This is just one indicator why those who believe Trump will definitely lose is very complacent
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 05:39 PM
Aug 2019

reasoning

There are very critical swing states that will determine the next President, and nothing should be taken for granted



bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
8. +1000 we definitely have to win the Midwest and Pa.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 05:57 PM
Aug 2019

We can’t count on Florida. Maybe Texas goes blue before Florida goes blue again. I just can’t believe that.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. President Obama won Florida twice, President Clinton won Florida once.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 10:31 PM
Aug 2019

Out of the last 7 presidential elections, democrats have won Florida 3 times, republicans 4 times. The state is third behind California and Texas in electoral votes. Florida is winnable for democrats, it is not a state that we should ignore.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
11. I would adjust the score as Gore would have easily won with no cheating
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 10:46 PM
Aug 2019

Between designating many African Americans as felons denying them the vote even though they weren't to the intentionally confusing Palm Beach ballot, many Gore votes were stolen. Still, had there been a whole state recount Gore would have won.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. Actually the bad ballot was in Broward County.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 10:59 PM
Aug 2019

In 2000 and the 2018 election, Broward County made a mess of things with an overly complicated ballot. Broward is a very large and blue county. It seems that they put too many things to vote on in key elections, then try to craft a ballot that hold all of the things to vote for, creating a mess. One solution would be to hold municipal office, bond, and county office elections on dates other than November, as my county does. Our local races are in September and stay off the statewide and statewide/national ballot.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
16. Yes, but the 2000 Bad Ballot was in Palm Beach County
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 08:55 AM
Aug 2019

Broward didn't have issues in 2000 with ballot design

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. I stand corrected. Broward was the issue last November.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 07:15 PM
Aug 2019

At any rate, since both counties lean blue, you can bet republicans are going to make an issue of any ballot snafu.

I don't know whether the elections supervisor in my county is a democrat or republican, all I know is that he runs fair voter registrations and elections and seems to have an organized office.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
12. I agree but ignoring Fl.and not counting on it are 2 different things.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 10:55 PM
Aug 2019

IMHO It will be easier to win the Midwest and pa rather than Florida. Both state houses in FL are GOP and both Senators and the Governor.
But your point is well taken.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. Florida is winnable for us when campaigns canvass the whole state.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 11:04 PM
Aug 2019

The campaigns that lost focus on the big counties and put no resources in the other 58 or so counties in the state. The key to winning Florida overall is holding down the republicans winning margin in red parts of Florida, President Obama did that twice, President Clinton once.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
15. That is interesting. I did not know that.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 08:52 AM
Aug 2019

Thank you-I always learn something here!

jpljr77

(1,004 posts)
17. No. Florida is a must-win. If we have to pick just three states to pour resources into, it's MI, PA,
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:02 AM
Aug 2019

and FLORIDA. None of this Texas/Georgia/N. Carolina talk should creep into our thinking. That's what got us into trouble in 2016 ("Hey, maybe she can pick off Georgia and/or Texas and really run up the score!" and don't pretend those posts didn't happen).

Focus on 270, nothing else matters.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. No way in hell. Florida voted for Obama twice.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 07:24 PM
Aug 2019

Texas has not voted for the Democratic Candidate since Carter.

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