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Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:02 AM Aug 2019

Drip, Drip, Drip, and Drip

A little here and a little there. It is all coming out, and it is just a matter of time. Like Watergate, but worse in many ways. But the drip, drip, drip and drip is exactly the same. Get a little here and a get a little there. This confirms that and so on. This one said that, and so on. Will it end the same way? No one knows, but actually in some ways, it looks worse than Watergate.

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Drip, Drip, Drip, and Drip (Original Post) Stuart G Aug 2019 OP
Includes actual treason I'm sure - compared to Watergate. BSdetect Aug 2019 #1
I am not a lawyer, yes it looks like treason, but one thing is for sure, and I watched Watergate Stuart G Aug 2019 #2
One big difference though FakeNoose Aug 2019 #9
And yet they nurses their grievances for years. calimary Aug 2019 #11
Watergate is like spinach stuck between your teeth... N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 2019 #3
One thing is exactly the same..Nixon was evil and so is Trump Stuart G Aug 2019 #4
Great analogy malaise Aug 2019 #5
I suspect sometime this fall there will be serious impeachment hearings. George II Aug 2019 #6
That seems inevitable to me today and did not yesterday jcgoldie Aug 2019 #7
Agree..Nadler has been publicly saying that now for a month or so Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #16
Many compare this to Watergate. pangaia Aug 2019 #8
Agree. kentuck Aug 2019 #10
K&R. Exactly - this time it's far deeper and wider in scope...... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2019 #12
Even if 'we' discover the " the dark underbelly pangaia Aug 2019 #13
But don't you think puttie is at the bottom? Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #17
That is my point.. Who can say? pangaia Aug 2019 #18
K&R BlueJac Aug 2019 #14
Agree completely. Nixon wanted to go down in history as a Great Leader. maddiemom Aug 2019 #19
Flood gates! czarjak Aug 2019 #15
Mueller Report Is 'More Damning' Than Watergate Report: John Dean Poiuyt Aug 2019 #20
Yep colsohlibgal Aug 2019 #21
Minor league is right. Trump plays with the big boys LuckyLib Aug 2019 #22

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
2. I am not a lawyer, yes it looks like treason, but one thing is for sure, and I watched Watergate
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:07 AM
Aug 2019

very carefully back then, Trump and Nixon had/have exactly the same attitude. And that attitude is simply, "I can get away with anything, anytime, and in any way."

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
9. One big difference though
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:37 AM
Aug 2019

The "I can get away with it" has been Chump's philosophy his ENTIRE LIFE. Nixon only evolved to it after he became President. It was a huge mistake for the country to let Nixon off the hook, because that's how we ended up with Chump.

There has been no accountability in the minds of the Repukes all these years since Nixon.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
11. And yet they nurses their grievances for years.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:52 AM
Aug 2019

I remember reading suspicious comments during the Clinton persecution. They impeached him for lying about a blow job with a consenting adult. Someone back then stated “payback for Nixon.”

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,721 posts)
3. Watergate is like spinach stuck between your teeth...
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:18 AM
Aug 2019

What’s going on now...is a full on complete extraction of those teeth. Sorry it’s early that was the best analogy that hit me.
I think that when the entire story of this episode in America’s history is told...I will take years for us to close our collective mouths gaping in shock, wonderment, surprise, abject horror.

The Russian corruption runs deep. This may well change the way our government works. Which way it changes we’ll just have to wait and see.

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
4. One thing is exactly the same..Nixon was evil and so is Trump
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:26 AM
Aug 2019

There are recording of Johnson saying that Nixon tried to interfere with negotiations between North Viet Nam, and the U.S. ... Nixon's attitude was, "I can get away with it" and Trump's is exactly the same. "No one will or can get me." The common trait is total arrogance. Just 2 words: total arrogance

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
7. That seems inevitable to me today and did not yesterday
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:28 AM
Aug 2019

And I still have no confidence in republicans in the senate to convict... but on the bright side some folks in battlegrounds like Collins and Ernst will be forced to tie Trump around their necks for all time like an anchor or finally jump ship.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
8. Many compare this to Watergate.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:37 AM
Aug 2019

There is absolutely no relationship between the two, nor between nixon and trump


I understand where you are coming from., but comparing the two almost whitewashes what is happening now.

Nixon wasn't involved in a blatant attempt to destroy american democracy, indeed western democracy.. he was just a crook, like any other...

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
10. Agree.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:43 AM
Aug 2019

Watergate was small potatoes compared to this treasonous bunch. Although, at that time, it seemed like the worst thing that could ever happen to a White House.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
12. K&R. Exactly - this time it's far deeper and wider in scope......
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:09 AM
Aug 2019

with international and domestic implications, and it's extremely difficult to investigate. Watergate was relatively simple and local.

I've felt for quite a while if anything good comes of this presidency, it's the exposure of the dark underbelly of the complex network of ultra-wealthy oligarchs around the globe that operate mostly out of sight and believe their wealth grants them immunity to most all laws. That's partially due to lack of enforceable international law or enforcement mechanisms.

They are largely responsible for the horrible global economic inequality that's the root cause of many of our current problems and every ray of light that shines on this web is a good thing for the public.

Thankfully, we now have internationally interconnected intelligence networks that are slowly exposing parts of this criminal web, such as with the Panama Papers, 1MDB scandal, the Epstein affair and now Trump.

KY.........

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
13. Even if 'we' discover the " the dark underbelly
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:12 AM
Aug 2019

of the complex network of ultra-wealthy oligarchs around the globe,'

It will not really be found.
There is always another layer, and another, and another.....

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
19. Agree completely. Nixon wanted to go down in history as a Great Leader.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:55 AM
Aug 2019

He just didn't care what he had to do behind the scenes as long as he didn't get busted. Yeah, he WAS a crook and always trying what to overcome what he regarded as a poorer start in life than many of his rivals. He wanted to prove his worth to the world in a way that was much more personal for him. My very first presidential vote was against Nixon. HOWEVER, Trump is an entirely different piece of work. He's a hustler and obviously prides himself on that. He was born with money, but always wants more...or, more accurately, the illusion of having more. Cheating and "stiffing" others are a point of pride for him. No use to go on about him any further to prove that he's a VERY SICK individual, who likes to BULLY to get his "name in lights." His lack of reading or general knowledge shows how lazy he really is, except for self-promotion. He likes making sucker of others who lack what he perceives as his superior"talents" Who needs it if you're the richest, most powerful man in the world? He's smarter than anyone he can "get over" on and that's what's most important for him.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
20. Mueller Report Is 'More Damning' Than Watergate Report: John Dean
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 12:12 PM
Aug 2019

"I looked on my shelf for the Senate Watergate Committee report, I looked at the Iran Contra report. I also looked at the Ken Starr report,” Dean told Jake Tapper on CNN’s “The Lead.”

“This report from the special counsel is more damning than all those reports about a president,” he added. “This is really a devastating report.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-dean-barr-mueller-watergate-tapper_n_5cb8f7abe4b068d795cabbc6

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
21. Yep
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:20 PM
Aug 2019

Nixon was rotten to the core, a twisted mind, but he was minor league compared to the Orange Creep now, who is acting more and more like a lunatic dictator. Telling underlings to break the law and he will pardon them. Says he can pardon himself, going full on crooked madman.

We are teetering on disaster folks. We must cream Trump in 2020 and take over the Senate. Then work on safeguards to this happening again anytime soon.

I dream of Trump in a matching Orange Jumpsuit.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
22. Minor league is right. Trump plays with the big boys
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 12:04 AM
Aug 2019

and is now compromised in every way possible. Nixon was chump change compared to what we’ve got now with the Trumpster.

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