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Zorro

(15,942 posts)
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 01:30 PM Sep 2019

A vegan woman sued her neighbors for barbecuing in their backyard: 'It's deliberate'

A vegan woman has filed a suit against her neighbors in the Australian supreme court after complaining about the smell of meat and fish emanating from their barbecues.

Cilla Carden took her case to the Supreme Court of Western Australia, citing her neighbors' barbecuing, smoking and children playing basketball, among other complaints, reported Australia's Nine.

Carden accused her neighbors of intentionally setting up these nuisances.

"It's deliberate," she told Nine. "All I can smell is fish. I can't enjoy my backyard."

https://news.yahoo.com/vegan-woman-sued-her-neighbors-140715647.html

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A vegan woman sued her neighbors for barbecuing in their backyard: 'It's deliberate' (Original Post) Zorro Sep 2019 OP
Oh, boy. I thought they were going to say they were slaughtering animals to BBQ in the back yard... hlthe2b Sep 2019 #1
I will take the smell of BBQ over cabbage being cooked or potatoes rotting in the compost bin. yellowcanine Sep 2019 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #7
I'll take the smell of cooked cabbage and compost over cooking tripe or rotting hamburger Maru Kitteh Sep 2019 #32
Have you ever smelled a dry-aged hamburger cooking? Blue_true Sep 2019 #76
This is why I detest vegans so much- their self-righteousness RainCaster Sep 2019 #3
You detest Ellen, Stevie Wonder, Al Gore...? Croney Sep 2019 #8
If you succeed, you'll be exactly like the woman in the story. Mariana Sep 2019 #48
I'll have to take that risk. Lol Croney Sep 2019 #61
Oh my goodness! If famous people do this or that, it must be good! cwydro Sep 2019 #60
Paul McCartney tried to make his dogs vegan LakeArenal Sep 2019 #101
It is your interpretation that gets to you. wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #9
What would happen if you just said: marybourg Sep 2019 #10
if people know why they don't want it they know not to offer it again JI7 Sep 2019 #17
Just saying no is adequate. Blue_true Sep 2019 #79
not when it comes to food. plus it's more convenient JI7 Sep 2019 #80
Someone else pointed out that food is more complicated. Blue_true Sep 2019 #87
How do you avoid gluten in hidden ingredients? pnwmom Sep 2019 #19
I say no thank you and eat only marybourg Sep 2019 #37
How can you travel, if you only eat food you prepare at home? pnwmom Sep 2019 #39
Traveling is optional, as far as I know. marybourg Sep 2019 #89
I know the diet can be a challenge, but it is easier to manage when traveling pnwmom Sep 2019 #92
Why do I have to not use plain normal words that people wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #73
They don't upset me at all, but I know it's not necessary marybourg Sep 2019 #86
When someone says 'I'm a vegetarian' I think, Well, cool. That's such an easy 'accommodation' Siwsan Sep 2019 #55
I have a hard time going to restaurants with people. wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #74
A lot of the restaurants around here specifically indicate the veg/vegan options Siwsan Sep 2019 #78
I would not put up with lectures either. I do not wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #82
That's the best way Siwsan Sep 2019 #85
How can you tell if someone's a vegan? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2019 #14
I never tell people I'm a vegetarian. Most eventually catch on though when they Maru Kitteh Sep 2019 #34
Broadbrush much? Celerity Sep 2019 #15
No kidding. smh Doremus Sep 2019 #52
i have seen people being assholes to those who don't eat meat JI7 Sep 2019 #18
I was eating at a BBQ place and the vegan protesters showed up ripcord Sep 2019 #21
People are rude Smackdown2019 Sep 2019 #28
"assholes come in every flavor" jberryhill Sep 2019 #33
I've heard that canned assholes are actually superior to fresh. Maru Kitteh Sep 2019 #35
those people are assholes also and it's one reason i don't care for PETA JI7 Sep 2019 #45
I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for $500, Alex. nt Codeine Sep 2019 #66
What odd people you must know. cwydro Sep 2019 #41
you don't need to know everyone personally to see what people do JI7 Sep 2019 #43
Wow, still. What weird people must be out there. cwydro Sep 2019 #44
Many people do seem to be threatened by veganism for some reason. Doremus Sep 2019 #53
Not threatened, disgusted. Jirel Sep 2019 #58
Yup, threatened. nt Doremus Sep 2019 #63
Or perhaps they prefer not to Bettie Sep 2019 #70
Your last paragraph is how the vast majority of vegan-non-vegan interactions go, imo. Doremus Sep 2019 #98
Yeah, but it is that 5% Bettie Sep 2019 #99
the ones I'm talking about tend to be right wing types JI7 Sep 2019 #72
Yep. Vegans and atheists. murielm99 Sep 2019 #22
You've must be awfully busy getting to know them all. UniteFightBack Sep 2019 #57
Ohh, sensitive! murielm99 Sep 2019 #65
PURE bullshit. Your post: " They are some of the most self-righteous people on earth." Where UniteFightBack Sep 2019 #67
p.s. murielm99 Sep 2019 #68
Is that all it took? Buh bye to you too. What did you tell me to do...'lighten up'. I ain't the UniteFightBack Sep 2019 #69
It has become very clear who is hypersensitive. Mariana Sep 2019 #71
Have you ever met evangelicals? You may want to hold the "most". nt Blue_true Sep 2019 #81
There are some vegans Bettie Sep 2019 #88
I am talking about rightwing religious (so they call themselves) evangelicals. Blue_true Sep 2019 #93
Yeah, I got that you were talking about the Bettie Sep 2019 #94
Most Christian churches are considered murielm99 Sep 2019 #97
Rightwing evangelicals. Frankly I view them as some of the most evil forces on earth. Blue_true Sep 2019 #100
All vegans are identical and interchangeable, right? Mariana Sep 2019 #26
You sound the same! Nt USALiberal Sep 2019 #36
Don't be a hater it will eat you up Blues Heron Sep 2019 #38
I agree demosincebirth Sep 2019 #49
Hey great way to attack a whole group of people like that. Unbelievable. nt UniteFightBack Sep 2019 #56
A lot of Vegans are cool. Blue_true Sep 2019 #77
It doesn't matter that a lot of vegans are cool. Mariana Sep 2019 #91
And that is wrong. It goes against one of our main attributes as Democrats, Blue_true Sep 2019 #95
If I should feel the need to participate in an unnatural act, aka-chmeee Sep 2019 #83
"playing basketball" eh? n/m RhodeIslandOne Sep 2019 #4
Obviously the ball was made out of a pig (or cow, or whatever) lol ExciteBike66 Sep 2019 #23
If I lived where I had to breathe cigarette smoke, I would move. Croney Sep 2019 #5
I don't plan to sue gratuitous Sep 2019 #11
Passive Aggressive: Find something that stinks and burn it when the wind blows their way. TheBlackAdder Sep 2019 #40
We have the neighbors in the rental behind us for that gratuitous Sep 2019 #47
No, don't move. Blue_true Sep 2019 #84
She lost, hardly surprising. Thyla Sep 2019 #6
Not only did they have the gall to BBQ ... lpbk2713 Sep 2019 #12
Gall, gumption, AND auDACITY! Lol BootinUp Sep 2019 #30
A lot of people barbecue in their back yard Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2019 #13
What's your Disaffected Sep 2019 #16
HAR! Skittles Sep 2019 #46
They deliberately made her want some tasty bbq? Nt BootinUp Sep 2019 #20
Bacon is the gateway meat. GoneOffShore Sep 2019 #24
If Meat Eaters Acted Like Vegans Tarc Sep 2019 #25
😂 TheBlackAdder Sep 2019 #42
Bacon cultists frequently act like militant vegans. hunter Sep 2019 #50
I love J.P. Sears. smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #102
I wonder how barbecue smoke compares to secondhand tobacco smoke sl8 Sep 2019 #27
Hmmm fan needed Smackdown2019 Sep 2019 #29
She better not move to Texas then... JCMach1 Sep 2019 #31
I grill vegetables. guillaumeb Sep 2019 #51
Oh, that suit is going to be so successful in Oz... The_jackalope Sep 2019 #54
They could try grilling up some skunk cabbage. CentralMass Sep 2019 #59
I'm a skinny bitch I've been told - OhZone Sep 2019 #62
So, not only are they not to cook things she chooses not to eat Bettie Sep 2019 #64
I read this to hubby & he said, "Rita." Read some more & he said it again. She was the terror ... Hekate Sep 2019 #75
She had a laundry list of complaints. She sounds like the neighbour EllieBC Sep 2019 #90
LOL, this thread. flvegan Sep 2019 #96
'It's deliberate' - she's probably right. Few barbecues happen accidentally. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2019 #103
People barbecuing and playing basketball irk her . She needs to move to the outback lunasun Sep 2019 #104

hlthe2b

(103,500 posts)
1. Oh, boy. I thought they were going to say they were slaughtering animals to BBQ in the back yard...
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 01:31 PM
Sep 2019

Sheesh.

yellowcanine

(35,746 posts)
2. I will take the smell of BBQ over cabbage being cooked or potatoes rotting in the compost bin.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 01:40 PM
Sep 2019

Just sayin.'

Response to yellowcanine (Reply #2)

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
76. Have you ever smelled a dry-aged hamburger cooking?
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 09:36 PM
Sep 2019

Honestly, I would take that over ANY smell ANY day.

RainCaster

(11,091 posts)
3. This is why I detest vegans so much- their self-righteousness
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 01:43 PM
Sep 2019

It's as if their beliefs trump all others.

Croney

(4,737 posts)
8. You detest Ellen, Stevie Wonder, Al Gore...?
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 01:53 PM
Sep 2019

I'm trying to eat much less meat myself. I doubt if I'll succeed all the way to vegan but it would be nice.

Mariana

(14,879 posts)
48. If you succeed, you'll be exactly like the woman in the story.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:11 PM
Sep 2019


Never mind that this woman is probably mentally ill - it certainly sounds as if she's paranoid, thinking the neighbors are grilling just to bother her. No, all vegans are identical and interchangeable, and if you do succeed in becoming one, RainCaster will detest you.
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
9. It is your interpretation that gets to you.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 01:54 PM
Sep 2019

Substitute the word Ford or Chevy for vegan and you have the same type of inference but it would not get to you.

I am a vegetarian and when ever people offer me meat to eat I say no thanks I am a vegetarian. Immediately there is tension and I did not put it there.

Then someone thinks I am preaching or something when I never tell people how to eat.

marybourg

(12,772 posts)
10. What would happen if you just said:
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 02:05 PM
Sep 2019

"No thanks"?

I'm a celiac, and I don't need to tell everyone that. I just say no thanks.

JI7

(89,641 posts)
17. if people know why they don't want it they know not to offer it again
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 02:49 PM
Sep 2019

and that they can still offer other foods.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
79. Just saying no is adequate.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 09:44 PM
Sep 2019

I don't drink alcohol, after I turned it down a few times people understood that I was not interested and if they wanted me at a bar, had to point out other reasons for me to go other than drinking.

JI7

(89,641 posts)
80. not when it comes to food. plus it's more convenient
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 09:48 PM
Sep 2019

for those giving out the food.

they can also let people know if certain foods are ol for vegans out vegetarians.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
87. Someone else pointed out that food is more complicated.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:18 PM
Sep 2019

As I have grown older, I am more sensitive to glutens (make me feel like I have a spot of bad indigestion). My case is mild compared to others, I have solved my issue by putting nutritional yeast into things like spaghetti sauce and homemade bread, that seems to help me a lot. I also drink more water than I used to.

pnwmom

(109,197 posts)
19. How do you avoid gluten in hidden ingredients?
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 03:03 PM
Sep 2019

Unless the food isn't processed at all, you can't tell very well by looking. For example, a steak might have been marinated with soy sauce.

I can say no to anything that obviously has gluten in it, but the problem is with all the non-gluten foods that are prepared with gluten.

pnwmom

(109,197 posts)
39. How can you travel, if you only eat food you prepare at home?
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:15 PM
Sep 2019

My family members and close friends know how to prepare food for me now, and there are even restaurants around here that understand. (In one case the chef's wife is Celiac.)

When I travel I go to restaurants (not food courts) and am careful about what I order and how I explain it. Sometimes a chef will even come out and talk to me, and sometimes I just tell him or her my issue, and ask for suggestions. I've even had chefs prepare something delicious that's not on the menu because I gave them free rein to make whatever they wanted -- as long as it had no gluten.

But if we're staying in a place for a while, we rent a condo with a kitchen rather than stay in a hotel.

marybourg

(12,772 posts)
89. Traveling is optional, as far as I know.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:27 PM
Sep 2019

So I opt not to. I had many years of eating out and such traveling as my spouse and I wanted to do, before I developed celiac in my early 60’s. Now I just don’t.

pnwmom

(109,197 posts)
92. I know the diet can be a challenge, but it is easier to manage when traveling
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:37 PM
Sep 2019

than it used to be. (And I am so sensitive than even the amount in a pill can bother me, so I'm very careful about contamination.)

In any case, I'm not going to give up on visiting family and friends because of gluten.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
73. Why do I have to not use plain normal words that people
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 09:01 PM
Sep 2019

can’t handle?

If the words vegan and vegetarian upset you it is your thing to change.

marybourg

(12,772 posts)
86. They don't upset me at all, but I know it's not necessary
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:14 PM
Sep 2019

to say them at all. A simple “no thank you” is almost always sufficient, so if you’re adding “Im a vegetarian”, you’re doing it for a reason. And anyone reading this thread can see the reason very clearly. Except, apparently, for you.

Siwsan

(26,728 posts)
55. When someone says 'I'm a vegetarian' I think, Well, cool. That's such an easy 'accommodation'
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:35 PM
Sep 2019

When someone says they are Vegan, my response is more 'Oh dear' because that's a dicey accommodation. My nephew and his wife are Vegan and I've given up on trying to get things right. Even if I have all of the right ingredients, they never meet their 'high standards'. They finally decided to start bringing their own food, which was fine, but now they are refusing to even sit at the table, with us evil omnivores.

They are sorely missed at holiday gatherings, but their lectures certainly aren't.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
74. I have a hard time going to restaurants with people.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 09:09 PM
Sep 2019

Some Mexican restaurants use chicken broth or put beaf in their red sauce.

So I ask the waiter if that is the case where we are.

If they do I don’t eat while others do. That upsets them but I didn’t cause it.

It is a silly thing to get upset about.

People should get use to people not eating meat or dairy. The numbers of them is increasing.

Siwsan

(26,728 posts)
78. A lot of the restaurants around here specifically indicate the veg/vegan options
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 09:44 PM
Sep 2019

However my nephew and his wife don't trust that so they will only eat at strict vegan establishments. I've gone out to eat, with them, but I find the fare to be VERY overpriced and not particularly satisfying.

Life was much easier when they were vegetarian. And not just because of the food. It's like dealing with religious cult members and the lectures and sanctimonious attitudes get really old, really fast. I've had to draw a line, more than once. I realize not all vegans are like that, but that's been my family experience.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
82. I would not put up with lectures either. I do not
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:01 PM
Sep 2019

make it a habit of telling people I am vegetarian.

I don’t tell people how to eat.

Siwsan

(26,728 posts)
85. That's the best way
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:04 PM
Sep 2019

My nephew now has a daughter. It will be interesting if she's inherited the family 'rebel' gene.

Maru Kitteh

(28,433 posts)
34. I never tell people I'm a vegetarian. Most eventually catch on though when they
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 03:54 PM
Sep 2019

eventually notice they never ever see me eating meat.

JI7

(89,641 posts)
18. i have seen people being assholes to those who don't eat meat
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 02:57 PM
Sep 2019

they say things like they are going to go to vegan people and do things like show pics of meat and other shit. and then they refer to the veg people as being snowflakes being triggered and the usual shit.

but it was these people who seemed triggered by just the fact there are people who don't eat meat. and some reason felt the need to stick things into their faces.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
21. I was eating at a BBQ place and the vegan protesters showed up
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 03:14 PM
Sep 2019

They were thrusting posters of animals being slaughtered into the faces of people eating, assholes come in every flavor.

Smackdown2019

(1,213 posts)
28. People are rude
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 03:34 PM
Sep 2019

Mercy, if that was done to me, I would demand them to pay for my hamburgers after spitting onto them. The owner would surely be quick to get them removed off the premises after the law was contacted.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
33. "assholes come in every flavor"
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 03:53 PM
Sep 2019

You've checked this out?

Personally, I'd guess the range of flavors is kind of limited, but I've never really thought about how many different flavors assholes might come in, or how one would figure that out.

JI7

(89,641 posts)
45. those people are assholes also and it's one reason i don't care for PETA
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:58 PM
Sep 2019

my point is there are other assholes also.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
41. What odd people you must know.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:54 PM
Sep 2019

This is something I’ve never seen or even heard of.

How bizarre.

JI7

(89,641 posts)
43. you don't need to know everyone personally to see what people do
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:57 PM
Sep 2019

a lot of it is things posted on vegetarian sites.

or things like this article posted.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
44. Wow, still. What weird people must be out there.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:58 PM
Sep 2019

No one has ever approached me about what I’m eating. Ever.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
53. Many people do seem to be threatened by veganism for some reason.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:34 PM
Sep 2019

Perhaps it's because they know eating meat is bad for the planet. Or they know how cruelly treated livestock are. Or maybe they know they're putting their health at risk when they eat meat.

People love to hear good news about their bad habits y'know. In any event, I wish they'd direct their hatred in some other direction than mine when they find out I'm vegan, lol.

Jirel

(2,073 posts)
58. Not threatened, disgusted.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:42 PM
Sep 2019

Vegans who just follow their beliefs rather than acting like newly brainwashed evangelical converts are great. The PETA crowd that never shuts the hell up in mixed company, messes with others’ food, sabotages agriculture especially when it causes animal suffering from THEIR acts, etc. are just idiotic zealots with as much grace and ethics as your average MAGA-hat wearer.

Bettie

(16,533 posts)
70. Or perhaps they prefer not to
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 06:12 PM
Sep 2019

be preached at?

If you are a vegan, that is fine. I don't care what you eat. (General you/me)

But, that should go both ways. You should be able to allow me to make my own dietary choices as well without a lecture every time I buy or order something.

Most people are able to deal with this basic social contract. I've seen both vegans and omnivores act horribly toward the other for no real reason.

If I have a vegan dinner guest I cook things that they will enjoy as well as things my non-vegan friends like. Everyone enjoys their meal without being assholes.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
98. Your last paragraph is how the vast majority of vegan-non-vegan interactions go, imo.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 10:37 AM
Sep 2019

It's the 5% asshole quotient, always.

Bettie

(16,533 posts)
99. Yeah, but it is that 5%
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 01:15 PM
Sep 2019

that is a problem from both ends.

Omnivores who can't stand that people aren't eating what they eat and Vegans who can't stand that others are eating what they don't eat are both obnoxious.

The woman in the OP story is probably just so far off the rails she can't even see the tracks anymore. Seems she's one of those people who hates everything and everyone.

JI7

(89,641 posts)
72. the ones I'm talking about tend to be right wing types
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 08:04 PM
Sep 2019

the ones who want to user plastic straws to stick it to liberals.

murielm99

(30,987 posts)
65. Ohh, sensitive!
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 06:01 PM
Sep 2019

I have had vegans and atheists try to bite my head off just for being in the same room with them. There are many of them that I don't care to interact with. Your touchy reaction to my mild attempt at humor confirms my feelings about the hypersensitivity of many of the people who fall into these categories.

p.s. Lighten up.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
67. PURE bullshit. Your post: " They are some of the most self-righteous people on earth." Where
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 06:06 PM
Sep 2019

is the joke huh? My post on the other hand conveyed humor.

P.S. take notes

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
69. Is that all it took? Buh bye to you too. What did you tell me to do...'lighten up'. I ain't the
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 06:09 PM
Sep 2019

one carrying a load but thank you just the same. Please have a pleasant evening.

Mariana

(14,879 posts)
71. It has become very clear who is hypersensitive.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 06:25 PM
Sep 2019

"I have had vegans and atheists try to bite my head off just for being in the same room with them."

Yeah, sure. Maybe after the poster "joked" with them by telling them they are some of the most self-righteous people on earth, they told her to fuck off. Can't blame them if they did, really.

Bettie

(16,533 posts)
88. There are some vegans
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:25 PM
Sep 2019

who are evangelical about their dietary choices and think that all of us should be forced to follow their path.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
93. I am talking about rightwing religious (so they call themselves) evangelicals.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 11:09 PM
Sep 2019

I honestly would rather get dog-doo on my shoes than spend two minutes around them. Even the most obnoxious vegan is more tolerable, at least when push comes to shove, the vegans show some ethics.

Bettie

(16,533 posts)
94. Yeah, I got that you were talking about the
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 11:18 PM
Sep 2019

religious whackadoodles and yes, vegans have more ethics, but ultimately, anyone who has decided that they know what is best for everyone and think it is their mission in life to enforce it is just obnoxious.

I don't like people telling me (unsolicited) how I should live my life. If I ask, that is an entirely different story.

murielm99

(30,987 posts)
97. Most Christian churches are considered
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 01:38 AM
Sep 2019

evangelical, because they follow the four Gospels.

You will have to be more specific.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
100. Rightwing evangelicals. Frankly I view them as some of the most evil forces on earth.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:14 PM
Sep 2019

None of what they stand for is good.

There are some borderline cases:

The Salvation Army does a lot of good feeding and housing people that really have no where to go. They seem to somehow be Affliated with Goodwill, an organization which helps really poor people by offering donated goods for cheap resale. But the Salvation Army has an outdated sexual orientation view, although I have never heard of them turning away a needy person because of sexual orientation, at least not the local one.

People don't realize that the YMCA/YWCA are religious organizations, though that should be clear by pronouncing the full names. I used to have a membership for when I was in a big city. Their administrators seem to be religious. But I have not seen cases where I could say that I noticed discrimination, they seem to serve whoever come to their facilities.

The groups with the mega-churches and leaders that have mansions and private jets, or the ones that are commenting on and attacking the rights of other members of society, are the ones that I look sideways at, and their number among evangelicals seem to be growing, not shrinking as it should be.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
77. A lot of Vegans are cool.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 09:39 PM
Sep 2019

The ones that throw blood on people and try to shut people down are just garden variety assholes and would likely be that if they ate animal products.

Mariana

(14,879 posts)
91. It doesn't matter that a lot of vegans are cool.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:35 PM
Sep 2019

RainCaster detests all vegans equally, apparently.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
95. And that is wrong. It goes against one of our main attributes as Democrats,
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 11:18 PM
Sep 2019

we evaluate every person that we deal with before making broad-brushed claims. I really don't prefer to deal with republicans, but I have met many that were ok if politics were not discussed, do I approve of how they vote? Hell no! But there are common interest things that I will work with them on.

aka-chmeee

(1,141 posts)
83. If I should feel the need to participate in an unnatural act,
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:01 PM
Sep 2019

I think something involving the Lone Rangers's great horse Silver rather than veganism. To quote Louis Wu,"How much intelligence does it take to sneak up on a leaf?"

Croney

(4,737 posts)
5. If I lived where I had to breathe cigarette smoke, I would move.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 01:44 PM
Sep 2019

This woman lives between two families that use their yards for ordinary activities. She should just move. Being litigious must give her some sort of satisfaction.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. I don't plan to sue
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 02:09 PM
Sep 2019

Our neighbors, who rent part of the house next door, like to sit outside and play cards with their friends for hours on end. They can be pretty noisy, but that's not a major problem. They also like to smoke cigars, which means on a nice summer's day, we have to have our house shut tight or have our house smell like cigar smoke. We've lived in our house for more than 30 years. I guess we should just move?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
47. We have the neighbors in the rental behind us for that
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:03 PM
Sep 2019

I don't know what it is about our neighborhood, but people all around our house seem determined to foul the air, especially on nice days when it would be great to open up the house and let the fresh breeze pass through.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
84. No, don't move.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:02 PM
Sep 2019

Buy two big assed industrial fans, run extension cords to them, turn them on and point them at your neighbors. Make sure they are firmly on your property. If they ask what's up, tell them that you are allergic to tobacco smoke but don't want to ask them to stop smoking.

Thyla

(791 posts)
6. She lost, hardly surprising.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 01:49 PM
Sep 2019

Pretty sure you could take the meat thing out of the issue and she still would of found something to bitch about.

lpbk2713

(42,915 posts)
12. Not only did they have the gall to BBQ ...
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 02:16 PM
Sep 2019


but basketball had to be the last straw.





The judge should reprimand her lawyer for taking the poor lady's money.

hunter

(38,579 posts)
50. Bacon cultists frequently act like militant vegans.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:26 PM
Sep 2019

I laugh at them if they've never killed a pig themselves.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
102. I love J.P. Sears.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:28 PM
Sep 2019

He's not everyone's cup of tea, but I find him pretty hilarious. I have seen most of his videos. He does a gluten free one as well, and even though I am pretty sure I have problems w/ gluten, I still find it pretty funny.

sl8

(15,279 posts)
27. I wonder how barbecue smoke compares to secondhand tobacco smoke
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 03:28 PM
Sep 2019

I wonder how barbecue smoke compares to secondhand tobacco smoke, both in its chemical makeup and its effects on the human body.

Smackdown2019

(1,213 posts)
29. Hmmm fan needed
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 03:37 PM
Sep 2019

If the woman was living in hell in her eyes, she should of turn a fan on and blow back onto them. Problem solved.

OhZone

(3,215 posts)
62. I'm a skinny bitch I've been told -
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:53 PM
Sep 2019

but I stay that way with working out and low carb.

That means meat.

So let's join PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals!

Ha

Bettie

(16,533 posts)
64. So, not only are they not to cook things she chooses not to eat
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:59 PM
Sep 2019

they must also keep their children indoors 24/7 so that they don't bother her, quit smoking, and otherwise curtail their activities to suit her.

Maybe she should move if she hates everything about the neighborhood.

Reminds me of some people who sued (years ago now) because they moved into a neighborhood of 3 and 4 bedroom homes and were utterly shocked that children exist and play in backyards!

Hekate

(92,423 posts)
75. I read this to hubby & he said, "Rita." Read some more & he said it again. She was the terror ...
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 09:32 PM
Sep 2019

...of our former neighborhood, or at least of all those whose houses bordered hers, and the poor lady across the street, who had children. We were lucky because we lived across the street and a few houses over, but she made those other people's lives a misery. Not vegan, just a nutty control freak in her own right.

EllieBC

(3,155 posts)
90. She had a laundry list of complaints. She sounds like the neighbour
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:28 PM
Sep 2019

no one wants and everyone cheers when she finally moves. Kids playing and bbq upset her...sounds like she's a miserable person.

flvegan

(64,473 posts)
96. LOL, this thread.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:12 AM
Sep 2019

Obviously she's an idiot. Interesting amount of intolerance and hatred towards a segment of society in this thread, though. Careful. Don't let anyone see that red hat.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
104. People barbecuing and playing basketball irk her . She needs to move to the outback
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:03 PM
Sep 2019

where she can be bothered by red dust and flies
“I’m a good person. I just want peace and quiet,” she told The West Australian, telling them that she intends to continue the legal fight

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