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Sun Sep 8, 2019, 01:51 PM

 

Anybody seen this video of QB Ryan Fitzpatrick flashing the white power symbol last year?

This was probably seen by 10x the number of people as the guy at Wrigley. How does he still have an NFL job??



https://bleacherreport.com/post/nfl/34df91d3-5c49-4508-af85-3458c82dd06e

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Reply Anybody seen this video of QB Ryan Fitzpatrick flashing the white power symbol last year? (Original post)
MadDAsHell Sep 2019 OP
tblue37 Sep 2019 #1
zaj Sep 2019 #2
jberryhill Sep 2019 #3
bearsfootball516 Sep 2019 #4
MadDAsHell Sep 2019 #5
bearsfootball516 Sep 2019 #6
uponit7771 Sep 2019 #13
Baconator Sep 2019 #14
sharedvalues Sep 2019 #27
Turin_C3PO Sep 2019 #25
BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2019 #36
SlogginThroughIt Sep 2019 #39
Tipperary Sep 2019 #21
Roland99 Sep 2019 #7
Cartoonist Sep 2019 #8
uponit7771 Sep 2019 #9
MadDAsHell Sep 2019 #11
uponit7771 Sep 2019 #12
MadDAsHell Sep 2019 #15
uponit7771 Sep 2019 #16
MadDAsHell Sep 2019 #17
Downtown Hound Sep 2019 #19
MadDAsHell Sep 2019 #22
Bradshaw3 Sep 2019 #26
sharedvalues Sep 2019 #28
Bradshaw3 Sep 2019 #29
Jedi Guy Sep 2019 #38
uponit7771 Sep 2019 #20
brush Sep 2019 #32
Downtown Hound Sep 2019 #10
a kennedy Sep 2019 #18
GeorgeGist Sep 2019 #23
egduj Sep 2019 #24
onenote Sep 2019 #30
Demonaut Sep 2019 #31
Tipperary Sep 2019 #33
Demonaut Sep 2019 #34
Tipperary Sep 2019 #35
Demonaut Sep 2019 #37
SlogginThroughIt Sep 2019 #40
4139 Sep 2019 #41
Codeine Sep 2019 #42
Blue_true Sep 2019 #43
GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #44

Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 01:53 PM

1. As long as he didn't *kneel*. nt

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:05 PM

2. Really?

It's theoretically possible, but that's pretty unfair to assume that motive given the context.

If it were Steven Miller doing that, I would jump to the same conclusion. But Ryan Fitzpatrick?

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:07 PM

3. Are his African American teammates stupid...

...or does perhaps this signal mean something else in this context?

At this moment, during play, he decides to make a political point?

Why do I doubt that the player standing right next to him, and the player who is going to be setting up the ball for him, are as stupid as you think they are.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:13 PM

4. It's a game that some people play. It's hard to describe.

The goal of the game is to make someone look at your hand, and for the person not making the hand gesture, the goal is to not fall for it. There are a few people where I work who like to play it.

Like, you’d be walking past someone’s desk, and they’d knock their water bottle off their desk and go “oh no!” And instinctively, you’d look down to see if it spilled. When you look down, he’s making th hand gesture down by the water bottle and you saw it, so he won that round.

Like I said, it’s hard to describe.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:16 PM

5. I doubt it. I was told during the Wrigley incident that no such game exists.

 

And it's just an excuse racists make when they're caught.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:18 PM

6. The only people who participate in the game at my work are black.

They have a blast playing it.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:50 PM

13. THIS !!!!

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:50 PM

14. I will absolutely confirm that "the game" has been around for years longer...

... than this trend of ok = White Power.

That's part of the appeal. There are a dozen reasons to make the "ok" sign that are all fine or at least neutral and actual racist trolls use them to get a rise of of folks.

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Response to Baconator (Reply #14)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:10 PM

27. Correct. OK still means white power to racists

And because there are other reasons for making the OK sign, racists can troll everyone when they make the sign.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 04:51 PM

25. No, it's a real game.

When I was in high school (1998-2002), students would do that sign on their pants and whoever looked at it got hit. Stupid, yes.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 06:22 PM

36. Sure it does.

My friends and I were doing this 30 years ago.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 07:27 PM

39. been around FOREVER

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:04 PM

21. Is this in a kindergarten classroom?

Wtf?

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:20 PM

7. Oh dear gawd

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:35 PM

8. He's calling a play

Or signalling a move. As Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:38 PM

9. Context counts

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:46 PM

11. Explain to me the contextual difference between this and Wrigley.

 

Both at sporting events. Both by white guys. Both on camera. Both with a black person standing next to them.

I realize there are still people desperate to excuse this type of behavior but my God I don't expect to see it at DU.

Context does count, and the context is identical in this case. Ban his ass.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:49 PM

12. The context is not identical, that's an attempt to justify the Wirgley fans racism. Screw that...

... we don't need that here.

One person is a player making a call the other is an asshole doing stupid shit

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #12)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:50 PM

15. What call was it? Nt

 

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #15)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:53 PM

16. A football play call, are you REALLY tryna say a person using said sign during a play call is the ..

... same as some asshole flashing the sign behind a black broadcaster?

REALLY !?

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:56 PM

17. Interesting. So you're 100% sure this is a play call, yet you can't identify why or what the call is

 

You sound like a real expert on this subject.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #17)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:59 PM

19. If you knew even the first thing about football, which you obviously don't

You'd know that each team comes up with their own unique hand signals for different plays and keeps that shit under wraps. That way, the other team doesn't know what play they're calling and can't act to counter it.

Jeez, get over it. You're picking a stupid fight here over nothing.

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #19)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:06 PM

22. Fair enough. Then it's the coach and GM who came up with that racist shit.

 

Ban them too.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #22)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:00 PM

26. Give it up

It's just a hand signal. This kind of faux outrage over something that isn't what you claim only makes liberals look stupid.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #26)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:13 PM

28. Correct. Rightwing trolls do stuff like this to make liberals look dumb

Rightwing trolls try to find cases where people used the OK sign innocuously and accuse them of racism, in order to deligitimize actual criticism of real racists.


These two situations were different. Context matters. It’s basically a rightwing talking point to claim otherwise.

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Response to sharedvalues (Reply #28)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:14 PM

29. Ahh but it's hard to resist the faux utrage for some

As you say, we'd be better off if they did.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #22)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 07:18 PM

38. The longer you cling to this position, the sillier you look. Just sayin'. N/T

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #17)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:01 PM

20. You're kidding right !?!?! Its pre-snap and few if any outside of a team knows their precise ...

... precise pre-snap signaling.

I 100% know the jerk flashing the racist sign wasn't making a presnap football signal 🙄

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:19 PM

32. You're off base. It's a hand signal known by other team members used in calling a football play.

Nothing to get excited about.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:42 PM

10. Um, it looked to me like he was calling out a play

Don't be so paranoid that you can't see other possibilities. Now, when the Proud Boys do it marching through Portland, I'm pretty sure it means white power, even though they like to deny it.

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:56 PM

18. Right, it's a play being called.....damn.....i'm really sure he'd be giving the

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white power sign in that situation. Sorry, just don’t believe that.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:37 PM

23. Not exactly.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 04:48 PM

24. He should have been banned a long time ago just for his quarterbacking ability.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:18 PM

30. All i see is a quarterback signaling a play.

But then again, I've played football and maybe the OP hasn't.

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Response to Demonaut (Reply #31)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:34 PM

33. Grown up people play this "game?"

How utterly weird.

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #33)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:37 PM

34. they do, usually males

it's also called the 'ball game"

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Response to Demonaut (Reply #34)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:46 PM

35. That is just weird as hell to me.

How is it even a fun thing? Reminds me of something we might have done in elementary school.

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #35)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 06:29 PM

37. it's just a game like "slug bug" immature in nature but common, just the facts

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 07:33 PM

40. Seems to me

Seems to me that being surroundd by a whole host of African American men of which many are larger by a number of 100+ pounds would be the exact wrong time to flash a white power sign.

Seriously this is the dumbest thing I hope to ever read on here. He may be signaling the route tree of the play. He could be calling out a line assignment or any number of things that a QB does presnap. Get a life and stop falling for this stupid crap.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 07:55 PM

41. This post "Kooky" and should be deleted

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:14 PM

42. You're being quite transparent here. nt

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:19 PM

43. Tom Brady flashed that sign at the Patriots victory parade in Febuary.

I saw the picture earlier today when reading an article about Antonio Brown engineering his way into New England (looks like Brown was crazy like a fox, he wanted to go to the Patriots, the Steelers REFUSED to trade him to the Patriots for a first round pick, instead trading him to Oakland for less.

Anyway, Brady's sister is (or was married to a Black man) and he often has his niece from that union in all of his Super Bowl family activities.

The symbol has historically been used to signal "A OK", which is a way of indicating that life is good. White supremacists recently hijacked it, instead of trying to take the symbol back from those assholes, people are busy decrying it's use, even when the use has nothing at all to do with white supremacy.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:22 PM

44. He calling a football play!

Good god! Does no one here watch the sport?!?

Playing QB at any level requires total focus. The amount of focus and attention detail in the NFL required to keep that job is mind boggling. I played it high school and sucked not because I was a bad athlete but because I was not fast enough at making decisions.

Anyone who thinks he decided when at the same time as analyzing the defensive set, his teams set and perhaps signals coming at him from the sidelines he is going to think, ‘how about I flash a racist symbol’ is clueless to the game. Plus, it would totally confuse his offense if it was a random gesture. Every hand signal he makes and every thing he says in that position has a defined meaning.

This OP should be deleted. It makes liberals look silly.

And anyway, most Americans aren’t glued to political sites nor following news that close. Guarantee you most Americans when shown that hand signal would say it means ‘OK’. Which it has meant for decades.

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