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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: CIA extracted a major Russian Intelligence asset...
...because they were worried that Trump would reveal it...
Link to tweet
BSdetect
(9,047 posts)Celerity
(46,154 posts)Sunny Daze
(209 posts)to describe how pathetic this information along with the so called president are...he always proves he can and will sink lower.
superpatriotman
(6,529 posts)Of burning garbage that is the Needy Amin administration
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)That pile is getting pretty damn high.
Captain Zero
(7,479 posts)and impeachment charges. This is why I say next April is fine for the impeachment. There is something new to add every day.
calimary
(84,143 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,962 posts)That's a good one.
NewJeffCT
(56,837 posts)the source would likely be dead otherwise
Enoki33
(1,605 posts)on the sole basis of the possible mishandling of vital information. There are ways of circumventing that. There is much more below the surface way too damning at this time for public exposure. Maybe for me it is way too much John le Carre.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Know who it was immediately...but just looking at who was all of a sudden missing?
machoneman
(4,121 posts)were alerted to the extraction(s) BEFORE they occurred.
One can bet that a.) they lied to Trump about the when....the agent was already safely away before they told Trump as the CIA isn't foolish enough to alert him beforehand and b.) it was likely more than one single agent although the most senior one is who they mentioned. Why tell Trump otherwise?
One can also bet our intelligence agencies alerted every single friendly foreign intelligence agency to be real careful or stop sending intelligence through normal channels at the same time. No doubt most allies see what the CIA saw: a Russian agent in the WH!
Captain Zero
(7,479 posts)with the names they were given, which could have been real or not. But it would have flushed out who 'on our side' is really a TRAITOR. Maybe I've read too many Robert Ludlum novels ?
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)What say you Republican party?
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Isn't that their usual excuse?
kentuck
(112,630 posts)Roland99
(53,345 posts)A person directly involved in the discussions said that the removal of the Russian was driven, in part, by concerns that President Donald Trump and his administration repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy.
The decision to carry out the extraction occurred soon after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office in which Trump discussed highly classified intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. The intelligence, concerning ISIS in Syria, had been provided by Israel.
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The removal happened at a time of wide concern in the intelligence community about mishandling of intelligence by Trump and his administration. Those concerns were described to CNN by five sources who served in the Trump administration, intelligence agencies and Congress.
Those concerns continued to grow in the period after Trump's Oval Office meeting with Kislyak and Lavrov. Weeks after the decision to extract the spy, in July 2017, Trump met privately with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the G20 summit in Hamburg and took the unusual step of confiscating the interpreter's notes. Afterward, intelligence officials again expressed concern that the President may have improperly discussed classified intelligence with Russia, according to an intelligence source with knowledge of the intelligence community's response to the Trump-Putin meeting.
SWBTATTReg
(24,011 posts)Skraxx
(3,146 posts)But this does not bode well for Trump. The CIA is compartmentalizing from HIM!
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)Edit: Oh, nevermind
"The decision to carry out the extraction occurred soon after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office in which Trump discussed highly classified intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak."
FakeNoose
(35,516 posts)As soon as the CIA saw how Chump blabbed everything to Kislyak in the Oval Office, they knew they had a problem. Their top spy who had access to Putin would be outed if the CIA didn't get him out of there as soon as possible.
This information tells us something important - the CIA must have known that Chump was a Russian agent even before the 2016 election. WTF CIA, when were you planning to tell the rest of us?
bucolic_frolic
(46,769 posts)To catch them all, cast as wide a net as possible.
Political neutrality limited the possible methods.
tblue37
(66,035 posts)Turbineguy
(38,301 posts)OK. now it's time for the Russians to extract their agents from the White house and the U.S. Senate.
safeinOhio
(33,974 posts)his taxes.
marble falls
(61,996 posts)keithbvadu2
(39,928 posts)1. Vlad calls in Donald's loans?
2. Polonium 210?
DemoTex
(25,584 posts)Now, more than ever.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Those assets are not easy to come by.
Lonestarblue
(11,706 posts)Not only has the CIA been forced to pull experienced agents from Russiaagents it may have taken a decade or more to implant safelybut Trump has also managed to get some of the most experienced FBI agents with knowledge of Russian tactics fired. He is a Russian asset and has been for years, most likely when they bailed him out of bankruptcy in the late 80s.
I know that many Republicans like McConnell, Nunes, Jordan, and others are corrupt as can be, but surely Russia cannot own all of them. What is wrong with these elected representatives that they are willing to stay silent while Trump tries to destroy our national intelligence services and opens the door to top US secrets to Vladimir Putin! Are there no honest, patriotic Republicans left in Congress?
defacto7
(13,559 posts)tblue37
(66,035 posts)with Trump. It was like the horse's head in the bed in "The Godfather."
keithbvadu2
(39,928 posts)extvbroadcaster
(343 posts)Seems everyone is afraid, and has been, that Trump is either an idiot who can't handle classified intel or he's a Russian mole.
spanone
(137,511 posts)And a greedy self-serving one at that.
A court martial will be too good for him.
imaginary girl
(909 posts)I believe Coney was fired the day before Lavrov's visit.
Ilsa
(62,217 posts)any other network, even fox, unless trump says it is true.
ffr
(23,112 posts)Good job FREE-DUMB idiots!
Ilsa
(62,217 posts)the FSB or GRU and were never heard from again.
How much you want to bet that our allies are redacting information from their intel to us unless they have been assured it won't fall into mf45's hands (or Ivanka's or Jared's or Jr's)?
And Moscow Mitch running blocking maneuvers to make sure Russia stays in control of America.
democrank
(11,250 posts)ffr
(23,112 posts)I wounder what makes them suspect tRump and the KGOP?
Hmmm.
tblue37
(66,035 posts)realized that he could easily expose the spy, especially since he was going to meet with Putin in Helsinki.
Even if not on purpose or directly, Trump could reveal info that Russians could use to figure out the spy. That's what he did with Sislyak: he revealed info just to brag about how great his intel was, like a grade school kid bragging that he knew a big, important secret.
And then there's his cuddly relationship with Putin. They couldn't even be sure he wouldn't give him the info on purpose.
tblue37
(66,035 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,650 posts)This question has not been answered?
Enoki33
(1,605 posts)other members of his family, are indeed Russian moles. Cannot imagine the turmoil, frustration and sense of national betrayal they have been undergoing. They are patriots who have put their lives on the line. One very powerful mole will severely damage their network, but it will not completely cripple it. Rest assured there is a plan B for extracting information out of Russia that the traitors will never see.
JHB
(37,402 posts)...on general principles, never let something like this come up without highlighting the foam cannoning that went on about Hillary's "carelessness" about security in her emails.
The portion of that which was accurate was 1) well below the the threshold where authorities thought action was necessary (except Comey, who added his own stream to the foam), and 2) it amounts to a mite on a flyspeck on a tiddlywinks piece compared to what Trump has done.
And the whole goddamn Republican Party aids and abets him. None of them in power balk. Occasional muttering in their cups, but no real action.
Collimator
(1,859 posts)is running everything from behind the scenes and has some profound power over national affairs:
If this were true, why would Trump still be in power?
maxsolomon
(34,946 posts)if some Dem PAC had the balls to run it. maybe Tom Steyer after he withdraws his candidacy?
the amazing thing is, as the GOP has proven, IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER IF IT'S TRUE.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)Not going to happen in today's world - unless it's a Democrat doing it.
Karadeniz
(23,360 posts)jmowreader
(51,382 posts)Never, NEVER tell Donald Trump anything that isn't open source.
All our agencies have a desk whose sole purpose is to analyze material from the civilian press - newspapers, magazines, radio and television. You can get enough information to keep Trump as informed as he wants to be from that source, and by only telling him things you found in the New York Times (without, of course, telling him where you got it) you can protect your classified collectors.
blm
(113,791 posts)Blue Owl
(54,633 posts)n/t
sellitman
(11,662 posts)It is impossible to get assets like this in place. Ruined by this President. Can we Impeach yet Nancy?