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Tue Sep 10, 2019, 04:32 PM

NOAA holds barred. NOAA releases stinging letter re: Dorian political interference

https://www.research.noaa.gov/article/ArtMID/587/ArticleID/2489/A-Message-from-Craig-McLean-Hurricane-Dorian-and-Exceptional-Service

A Message from Craig McLean: Hurricane Dorian and Exceptional Service

Dear Colleagues,

The fierce storm we know as Hurricane Dorian has concluded its ferocious path through the Bahamas and along the U.S. East Coast. Many of you have contributed to the excellent science that has underpinned the forecasts and current understanding of storms such as this one, which accelerated quite rapidly in intensity. The storm also presented challenges in track which improved with enhanced observations. We know that our collective work, from the scientists in the aircraft penetrating the storm, to the scientists deploying the glider picket line, to the modelers and folks working the physics of the storms, across OAR and in our CI'S, and across all NOAA Lines, we are working the problem in order to give the NWS forecasters the best tools we possibly can to keep America and our neighbors safe. Thank you.

During the course of the storm, as I am sure you are aware, there were routine and exceptional expert forecasts, the best possible, issued by the NWS Forecasters. These are remarkable colleagues of ours, who receive our products, use them well, and provide the benefit of their own experience in announcing accurate forecasts accompanied by the distinction of all credible scientists—they sign their work. As I'm sure you also know, there was a complex issue involving the President commenting on the path of the hurricane. The NWS Forecaster(s) corrected any public misunderstanding in an expert and timely way, as they should. There followed, last Friday, an unsigned press release from "NOAA" that inappropriately and incorrectly contradicted the NWS forecaster. My understanding is that this intervention to contradict the forecaster was not based on science but on external factors including reputation and appearance, or simply put, political. Our NOAA Scientific Integrity Policy and Code of Scientific Conduct make clear that all NOAA employees shall approach all scientific activities with honesty, objectively, and completely, without allegiance to individuals, organizations, or ideology. The content of this press release is very concerning as it compromises the ability of NOAA to convey life-saving information necessary to avoid substantial and specific danger to public health and safety. If the public cannot trust our information, or we debase our forecaster's warnings and products, that specific danger arises.

You know that the value of our science is in the complexity of our understanding, our ability to convey that understanding to a wide audience of users of this information, and to establish and sustain the public trust in the truth and legitimacy of that information. Unfortunately, the press release of last Friday violated this trust and violated NOAA's policies of scientific integrity. In my role as Assistant Administrator for Research, and as I continue to administratively serve as Acting Chief Scientist, I am pursuing the potential violations of our NOAA Administrative Order on Scientific Integrity. Thankfully, we have such policies that are independently cited as among the best in the federal community, if not the best. Your NOAA and OAR management and leadership team believes in these policies and principles. I have a responsibility to pursue these truths. I will.

Thank you for your continued excellent work, and your trust. Carry on.

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Reply NOAA holds barred. NOAA releases stinging letter re: Dorian political interference (Original post)
Roland99 Tuesday OP
Marie Marie Tuesday #1
Guy Whitey Corngood Tuesday #2
Floyd R. Turbo Tuesday #3
durablend Tuesday #5
nykym Tuesday #4
Midnightwalk Tuesday #6
gratuitous Tuesday #22
MyOwnPeace Tuesday #25
cp Tuesday #7
Skittles Tuesday #8
calimary Tuesday #14
Skittles Tuesday #20
MyOwnPeace Tuesday #26
Skittles Tuesday #28
Roland99 Tuesday #19
Laura PourMeADrink Tuesday #9
malaise Tuesday #10
ffr Tuesday #11
SayItLoud Tuesday #12
Haggis for Breakfast Tuesday #30
Loge23 Tuesday #13
dalton99a Tuesday #15
BumRushDaShow Tuesday #16
mcar Tuesday #17
SCVDem Tuesday #18
Moostache Wednesday #36
smirkymonkey Tuesday #21
matt819 Tuesday #23
Peace06 Tuesday #29
NBachers Tuesday #24
MyOwnPeace Tuesday #27
JBoy Tuesday #31
lamp_shade Wednesday #32
Sherman A1 Wednesday #33
gademocrat7 Wednesday #34
Laura PourMeADrink Wednesday #35
Roland99 Wednesday #38
bdamomma Wednesday #37
Harker Wednesday #39

Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 04:37 PM

1. Thankfully, Wilbur Ross is probably napping or heads would be rolling.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 04:39 PM

2. At least these scientists have more courage than "Sad Poodle"..... errrr I mean "Mad Dog"...... nt

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 04:43 PM

3. I feel a twit tweet storm brewing!

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 04:52 PM

5. Like this

"FAILING NOAA AND THEIR FAKE NEWS!!! ACCUWEATHER WOULD'VE DONE IT BETTER!!!!"

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 04:51 PM

4. The Small Fingered Vulgarian

may well be so pissed at this he will try to disband NOAA & OAR

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 04:59 PM

6. Excellent letter

Thank you Mr McLean

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Response to Midnightwalk (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:10 PM

22. Indeed

And, to other folks commenting on the political scene these days, see how easy it is to explain what happened in clear language: "this intervention to contradict the forecaster was not based on science but on external factors including reputation and appearance, or simply put, political." Not, "appears to show" or "some people say" or some other mealy-mouthed locution. Call it what it is. If the subject of your reporting objects to your characterization, then publish that and explain why you stand by your original report.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #22)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:28 PM

25. Clarity, indeed......

Probably won't be there long - SAD.

Too good for this government...............

Best of luck to you, sir. You have fought the noble fight!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:04 PM

7. Thank you, NOAA

We live in rural northern Wisconsin and trust NOAA to relay accurate weather forecasts. NOAA has always, and I mean always, come through for us, from tornadoes to snow storms to everything. We love NOAA.

This is a superb letter from Craig McLean.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:05 PM

8. love that the weather folk are fighting back

this issue started as just another Trump lie but when he dragged in weather agencies, well, NO - the public has to be able to TRUST what we are being told about the weather. Sure, forecasters get it wrong but it's always in good faith - politicizing the weather is just plain WRONG

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Response to Skittles (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:51 PM

14. And MAN do we need them to exactly that!! We HAVE TO be able to trust our weather forecasters.

HAVE TO!!!

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Response to calimary (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:42 PM

20. they have to do it because Democratic leadership is.....

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well, I will leave it right there

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Response to Skittles (Reply #20)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:31 PM

26. Careful, Skittles.........

you might be accused of not supporting Democrats..........

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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #26)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:38 PM

28. yeah, I know all about that

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Response to Skittles (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:17 PM

19. "It's not nice to fool Mother Nature"

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:16 PM

9. Great but no way will trump read ..too long

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:26 PM

10. This should receive 500 recs

This is how professionals protect their institution - most excellent.
Rec with pleasure

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:27 PM

11. Wilbur Ross getting a Bolton tweet from Cult45 would be just awesome!

I hope to see scientists of all walks of life protesting this Russian, I mean Republican, regime in the streets with us soon.

American trust in our system of government must be restored!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:39 PM

12. By End of Week

This intelligent, morally sound, pro, will be thrown under the bus.

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Response to SayItLoud (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:26 PM

30. That would be incredibly sad,

BUT he will be remembered for something that is completely absent elsewhere in this administration:

INTEGRITY.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:45 PM

13. How screwed up is this administration?

When NOAA - NOAA!! - has to endure a week of nonsense over their most basic task, forecasting, because of ham-handed interference from not only the administration but the goddamn IPOTUS himself, you have to wonder just how far down the rabbit hole we are as a country right now.
Just incredible.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:55 PM

15. Kick

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:03 PM

16. Excellent!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:10 PM

17. Methinks NOAA's press secretary,

a Trumper, issued that release.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:10 PM

18. This is how Moscow Mitch

should be talking to drumpf!

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #18)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:42 AM

36. This IS how our allies talk to him behind closed doors...

It is why he is such a petulant child around them and around world events. His ego and narcissism simply cannot handle the truth - that he is a complete idiot in so far over his head that it would takes DECADES (if EVER) for him to ascend to the surface again.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:47 PM

21. Hear, hear!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:32 PM

23. This guy

Is a hero. Sure, he sits behind a desk, but he and his “troops” save lives, and they do so with amazing professionalism and integrity. We should all be proud that there are federal employees like him.

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Response to matt819 (Reply #23)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:02 PM

29. Mr. McLean and NOAA

Good message! This absolutely needed to be said! Such a welcome dose of integrity and professionalism. We don't see that in the trump administration.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:45 PM

24. Now it's time for the CDC to go rogue and start assessing gun violence statistics and effects.

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Response to NBachers (Reply #24)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:34 PM

27. Yep!

Take the gag out of their mouths! There was another post earlier that said that New Jersey WAS sponsoring just such an investigation in conjunction with Rutgers University.
Hmmmm, must not be much NRA money going to New Jersey!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:33 PM

31. Love it! Fuck Trump. Carry On. That is all. n/t

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 01:53 AM

32. Kick for visibility.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:12 AM

33. K&R

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:56 AM

34. Powerful letter from Craig McLean

He is an intelligent, hard working man who takes his position as Acting Chief Scientist very seriously. His concern for public safety is a priority. Unlike the orange buffoon who doesn’t care about people’s safety and well being.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:29 AM

35. One day later, just got your title, duh. Very clever Roland!!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #35)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 11:07 AM

38. lol

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:45 AM

37. K&R

nt

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 12:26 PM

39. Time to send Don McLean a nasty tweet. n/t

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