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37% turnout in NC election (Original Post) BSdetect Sep 2019 OP
pathetic* splunge63 Sep 2019 #1
vote by mail? fierywoman Sep 2019 #2
i believe they had early voting where the Democrat led. it was election day turnout in rural JI7 Sep 2019 #12
NC Dem party needed a better GOTV game. Funtatlaguy Sep 2019 #3
In NC, one can vote by mail, there were weeks of early voting, etc. 37% voted. No Excuse. Hoyt Sep 2019 #4
That's pretty sad. awesomerwb1 Sep 2019 #5
Case in point why we are descending into Fuedalism. gordianot Sep 2019 #6
Perhaps mandatory voting might be a possible solution...I just don't know! Deuce Sep 2019 #7
That's pathetic. CrispyQ Sep 2019 #8
NC is ground zero for voter suppression. RandySF Sep 2019 #9
Special elections always have a miserable turnout apnu Sep 2019 #10
That's no excuse. These are crisis times and people defacto7 Sep 2019 #11
America is in decline yes. apnu Sep 2019 #15
Nothing personal. I was just venting at facts. defacto7 Sep 2019 #20
Election days need to be made into Federally recognized holidays Brawndo Sep 2019 #13
I agree apnu Sep 2019 #14
It's no mystery, repugs benefit from low voter turnout Brawndo Sep 2019 #16
+10000 bdamomma Sep 2019 #23
Low turnout by the Left here in WI in the 2010 midterm election elocs Sep 2019 #18
Yes I remember 2010 well. apnu Sep 2019 #19
Yup, 37% is actually pretty good for a special election Amishman Sep 2019 #21
When the Left chooses to self suppress their vote elocs Sep 2019 #17
We don't vote, we don't win. edbermac Sep 2019 #22
Kick dalton99a Sep 2019 #24

JI7

(89,239 posts)
12. i believe they had early voting where the Democrat led. it was election day turnout in rural
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:46 PM
Sep 2019

areas which helped the Republican.

CrispyQ

(36,413 posts)
8. That's pathetic.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 12:49 PM
Sep 2019


We need to teach civics in school. Government impacts every aspect of your life. My 5th grade social studies teacher hammered that into our heads, & then we heard it again in 9th grade civics.

Only people who don't have the best interests of everyone want to limit voting.

apnu

(8,749 posts)
10. Special elections always have a miserable turnout
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 12:58 PM
Sep 2019

Mid-Terms also usually have a low turn out, compared to POTUS years. And that's with all kinds of media hype for months. Heck, even in POTUS years, at least 40% of eligible voters don't get to the polls nationally.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
11. That's no excuse. These are crisis times and people
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 03:37 PM
Sep 2019

just sit there in apathy thinking it doesn't matter. We really are a dying species.

apnu

(8,749 posts)
15. America is in decline yes.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 11:55 AM
Sep 2019

I wasn't making any excuses, only citing facts. In 2008, a cycle considered as "huge" turnout, only saw 58.2% of the electorate showing up at the polls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidential_elections

The "Turnout statistics" table at the bottom shows a depressing trend. Essentially for decades, 40% of the electorate simply won't show up at the polls.

Brawndo

(535 posts)
13. Election days need to be made into Federally recognized holidays
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 05:27 PM
Sep 2019

along with a return to paper ballots.

apnu

(8,749 posts)
14. I agree
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 11:52 AM
Sep 2019

Given how we celebrate our democracy so much, why we don't have a holiday to exercise our democracy is a mystery to me.

Brawndo

(535 posts)
16. It's no mystery, repugs benefit from low voter turnout
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 12:21 PM
Sep 2019

I would even like to have mandatory voting, like they've got in Australia. It would show whether or not it truly is 40% of our population that prefers fascism.

elocs

(22,540 posts)
18. Low turnout by the Left here in WI in the 2010 midterm election
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 12:26 PM
Sep 2019

flipped the state from total Democratic control to total Republican control and allowed them to gerrymander the state when they took power in 2011.

apnu

(8,749 posts)
19. Yes I remember 2010 well.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 12:46 PM
Sep 2019

I'm still fuming about it.

Census year, Dem party went through that cycle on auto pilot. Republicans knew it, and pounced. We're living with the ramifications of 2010 today.

I wasn't keen on the ACA prior to 2010 strategically. It was a dicey move that backfired on the Dem party. Yes the Dems finally controlled both Congress and the White House, they didn't think about solidifying that power before picking up a lightening rod topic like health care. I know they expected the ACA to be a signature item to run on in 2010, but it was an albatross at the time. Combine that with lower turn out in mid-terms plus a loss of the youth excitement level that powered Obama in 2008, the Dems had a steep hill to climb and I don't think party leader ship knew it at the time.

Census years are critical to defining congressional seats and districts. Because the GOP made large gains in 2010 on the state level they gained in control of the election map that won't really change until 2020.

Everything we've suffered since then has been a result of the GOP flipping the electoral count and re-drawing districts to lock in their power.

2018 was extraordinary for me to watch. The math was terrible for Democrats. We had to deal with gerrymandering in every red state, plus the worst Senate defense I can remember. Yet we flipped the House.

I only hope the Democratic party is ready to dig in like that in 2020. It will be one of the biggest elections of our life time, 2020 is a POTUS and Census year. Like 1980, 2020 will define our politics for a decade.

elocs

(22,540 posts)
17. When the Left chooses to self suppress their vote
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 12:22 PM
Sep 2019

it makes life real easy for Republicans.
But hey, we can always blame the Russians or Republican gerrymandering. The truth too often is that we have met the enemy and it is us.

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