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byronius

(7,394 posts)
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 05:52 AM Sep 2012

The phenomenon of the Randi Rhodes Conversion.

I'm a hothead. A really pissed-off Abbie Hoffman Democrat who has trouble talking to conservatives without swiftly getting really, really angry, probably because I grew up with an angry Goldwater father, and we all know how that works, don't we.

I've been a Randi Rhodes addict for many years now. I like the hard stuff, the fact-based stream, don't much care about packaging. I like science and history, Martin Luther King's words get to me, I think Bobby Kennedy was The Bomb; I have a wife, two kids, a business, and a creative writing/music jones; therefore I am the classic demographic strata for her particular brand of Thing That She Does, which is rabidly honest news analysis with a monsterly keen intellect, and a sharp sense of humor. I love her brain, therefore I listen.

She does something I cannot do.

She will reason with a conservative caller, really slowly, with an impossible patience that makes my teeth ache. Often, she gets tagged with a reputation for impatience, and it is true that she has no patience for the weak-minded left-minded; she's rougher with her own. But for the honest conservative caller, she will extend herself farther than any human being I've ever heard, with a zenlike informational authority, a mother's concern for a sick child. She tolerates no name-calling, and she will not deal easily with the purposefully obtuse. But for the honest conservative, the honorably misled, the truly lost innocent soul -- she will reach out, and help.

I've heard her do this hundreds of times now. It's shocking how good at it she is. Inspiring. It never ends well; they always hang up, just because they can't stay in the light any longer. I swear, it's just like that -- she's a candle. and they struggle violently to blow her out, and then flee from the unquenchable flame, back into the darkness from which they came.

A year or two later, they call back.

Once a week, one of them calls. They explain who they were, and where they came from; then they thank her, with deep sincerity, for their rescue.

It's the most important part of the show for me, because it is something I cannot do, but that I know is the right thing to do; to love them, to extend the branch of honest information, to reveal to them the beauty of the Deeper American, the real meaning of those so-powerful words that conservatives tend to confuse with primitive tribalistic impulses, with the Old Sparks from the medulla oblongata, the part of us that still swims in the warm dark water, and to do it with the brave patience of the True Believer, the Questioner, The Seeker After Knowledge. She is a Loving Political Scientist, and she lets none of the Lost escape.

When a 'liberal' calls into a conservative radio station and 'converts', I automatically know that it's fake. No one backslides into conservative thought without a) a catastrophic event that significantly alters higher brain function, b) a pre-existing neural state that manifests itself as religious panic or existential vertigo, disabling higher brain function, or c) too much money to refuse. It's not a developmental conversion, but a de-evolution, a loss of wisdom, a failing, a fracture, a falling down.

However, it's more than possible for a conservative to wake up. Perhaps not the sufferers of a pre-existing neural state, or those who've had a catastrophic event that has significantly altered their brain function; but for those who simply don't know, who have never been allowed to truly consider facts and come to conclusions, it is not only possible, but humanly probable, given the proper stimulus.

The rage I feel toward these people is not the proper stimulus. Unrelentingly patient love, a devotion to the sweet science of reason, the gorgeous metaphor of clean statistic, and actual History -- these are the gifts that Randi Rhodes brings to bear, the power that I honor her for, and the ability that my Better Self wishes to grow into. I want to rescue people, just like she does.

She always says the same thing to these former conservatives, some of whom are now campaigning for Obama, some holding down a cold tent with the Occupy, some just talking to their friends with gentle words, passing along that thrilling and life-affirming virus that Randi spreads whenever she speaks -- Sister Reason, and Brother Fact. She says: "It takes a real man to admit when you're wrong." Some of them express joy, some chatter away excitedly, and some cry -- it is a frightening thing to be a human being, born on the outside of this baked mud ball to grow and live and die in the Strangely Random Universe, but it is even more frightening to think that Black People are scary, that Liberals love Al-Qaeda, or that Free Women hate Life.

Watch Alexandra Pelosi's documentary, " target="_blank">[iRight America: Feeling Wronged] for a good idea of what the condition of the mind and soul of the conservative actually is. Some are sick, some are abused, and some are just poisoned with lifetimes full of violence and repetitive, mechanistic fear-imagery; but some are intelligent and loving, just lost, terribly confused, and frustrated by the illogic of the suffocating cultural curtain that surrounds them. It is these souls that Randi saves, and I have never heard anything like it before.

Wish I could do that. Want to do that. Maybe someday I'll be able to do that.

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The phenomenon of the Randi Rhodes Conversion. (Original Post) byronius Sep 2012 OP
I'm a big fan of Randi's. AtomicKitten Sep 2012 #1
Wow, you babylonsister Sep 2012 #2
And what a swell creative writing jones it is. Kurovski Sep 2012 #3
Me too... a fan for many years. liberalla Sep 2012 #4
Awesome tribute to Randi rjlobo422 Sep 2012 #5
Byronius... VERY nicely said. Thanks and...kick! vanlassie Sep 2012 #6
I think your'e on to something: dougolat Sep 2012 #7
Thanks for the Post, I didn't think anyone out there appreciated bonniebgood Sep 2012 #8
I haven't listened to Randi since she left Air America. LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #9
You can get it on satellite radio DeeDeeNY Sep 2012 #11
Links to affiliates: MrsCorleone Sep 2012 #21
Thank you. I bookmarked the Denver station. I like their lineup. LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #22
You're welcome! MrsCorleone Sep 2012 #24
I'm glad she has mellowed. I stopped listening to her when she mucifer Sep 2012 #10
Big Kick for a great post! annabanana Sep 2012 #12
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #13
Fabulous post. K&R n/t OneGrassRoot Sep 2012 #14
It never pays to get angry at a conservative. Ty Templeton Sep 2012 #15
Do You Call Them "Grasshopper" As Well? Paladin Sep 2012 #17
I was never particularly struck by her intellect DefenseLawyer Sep 2012 #16
She is incredibly knowledgable. I learn things from her that gateley Sep 2012 #27
you're a wonderful writer byronius barbtries Sep 2012 #18
Hmm, I never listen to talk radio ismnotwasm Sep 2012 #19
I love Randi. SalviaBlue Sep 2012 #20
I have always loved this vid NashvilleLefty Sep 2012 #23
randi rocks proud patriot Sep 2012 #25
She is great! Webster Green Sep 2012 #26
Love your post, byronius. I could read a lot more! gateley Sep 2012 #28
Thanks for your kind comments. byronius Sep 2012 #29
The whole movie can be viewed here: progressoid Sep 2012 #32
Randi is the only radio talk show I listen to. She's the only one who really knows what she's Booster Sep 2012 #30
I had an epiphany today. FedUpWithIt All Sep 2012 #31
What a good review. I'll try to catch her on internet radio again. freshwest Sep 2012 #33
Kick. (nt) Kurovski Sep 2012 #34
I worship at the altar of Randi Rhodes! kppenguin Sep 2012 #35
WoW!!! Absolutely Superb Analysis of The Randi ConnorMarc Nov 2012 #36
Done! ConnorMarc Nov 2012 #37
The news of Randi's show being revived/renewed/uncanceled liberalla Nov 2013 #38
Extremely good news. I was quite morose for several weeks. byronius Nov 2013 #39

babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
2. Wow, you
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 06:05 AM
Sep 2012

write so well! You need to do more of it; you have me convinced I need to search Randi out. Thanks for this!

liberalla

(9,238 posts)
4. Me too... a fan for many years.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 06:44 AM
Sep 2012

She's really evolved herself these last 2 or 3 years, don't you think? She seems calmer, more balanced and happier too. (must be Howard)

She actually WANTS people who disagree with her to call, and the screener has instructions to put those calls at the top of the list.

Yes, she is GREAT at talking with the cons. It's inspiring to hear. I don't know how she does it... Russell just called in again on Thurs or Friday... he's come a long way. It's so moving to hear the change/conversion in these people. It's the audio equivalent of seeing a light bulb go on over their heads.

I love her homework section - invaluable resource.

I can't express it as well as you, but I definitely agree with you.

rjlobo422

(29 posts)
5. Awesome tribute to Randi
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 06:55 AM
Sep 2012

This is a pretty damn well written post about a lady who is truly a hero of my wife and mine. We've been listening to Randi since the old Air America days. I remember her going down to Texas to camp outside Bush's ranch in support of the Goldstar Mothers. This woman walks the walk and talks the talk.

I remember that listening to her show got Astazia and I through many a long summer day during the darkest times of the Bush years, when it seemed that our country might lose its freedom in order to nuture a false sense of security. Like all of us, Randi was totally pissed off, but her calm, logic and passion never failed to help us see the truth. As you pointed out, she was polite but fearless when she was confronted by a conservative caller. She taught me the importance of facts and reasoning when discussing politics with people. She helped to blaze a trail for all of the progressive media who are currently popular. Thanks, Randi!

dougolat

(716 posts)
7. I think your'e on to something:
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 07:32 AM
Sep 2012

Some, perhaps many, can be helped.
It's hard, I've tried, but there's often the feeling that this person is just stuck in a narrow perspective or is burdened with some basic misinformation, and the right idea might really help.
Like the guy who came into work one day, muttering about how we don't need "that gay rights crap." I said right, WE don't need it, but 5% or 10% of the population thinks they DO, and how can we justify using the laws to enforce OUR preferences on them, when they're having a hard enough time, knowing how much they're disapproved of by so many to begin with? Where's the harm in letting a few people be different, if it's so important to them? If it bothers us, it's OUR problem, but let's leave 'em be, why not?
This was in a small group, and I thought I saw some re-evaluating going on.
Anyway, thanks for that good thought.

bonniebgood

(940 posts)
8. Thanks for the Post, I didn't think anyone out there appreciated
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 07:33 AM
Sep 2012

Randi as much as I. I too have been a die-heart fan since Air America Days. She should be
right up there with Ed and Rachael. Maybe you can write about that missing link someday.
Just when I can't take anymore of her patient/gentle/reasoning with con/repug callers, I turn to Mike Malloy for adjustments. I too love her brain. Write-on I love it.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
9. I haven't listened to Randi since she left Air America.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 07:37 AM
Sep 2012

Is her show streamed? Help me out here.

I never heard a convert call back. That would be refreshing.

DeeDeeNY

(3,354 posts)
11. You can get it on satellite radio
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:18 AM
Sep 2012

I found it on #168 on XM Radio, which I think is mostly right-wing shows. She's on 3 to 6 pm Eastern time, and I love listening to her. Too bad more people can't hear her show.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
22. Thank you. I bookmarked the Denver station. I like their lineup.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 04:08 PM
Sep 2012

I am sad that Iowa, Nebraska and Wyoming are not represented on your list, though.

MrsCorleone

(874 posts)
24. You're welcome!
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 04:28 PM
Sep 2012

Yeah, unfortunately the RW affiliates do all that they can to keep her out of conservative regions, even though the people own the airwaves. Her show is too addicting and fact filled for their tastes.

Agree with the OP. She has this unique crossover appeal that gets the wingers to stop and think for themselves. This frightens the GOP.

mucifer

(23,530 posts)
10. I'm glad she has mellowed. I stopped listening to her when she
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:10 AM
Sep 2012

practically told people not to vote for Al Franken. It was such a close election. He needed every vote he could get.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
12. Big Kick for a great post!
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:21 AM
Sep 2012

I remember listening to Randi in those early AAR days. She was the first one who exposed me to the role of CACI & Blackwater. A jaw dropping moment for this gal.

Response to byronius (Original post)

Ty Templeton

(26 posts)
15. It never pays to get angry at a conservative.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:57 AM
Sep 2012

Never yell at the enemy, it only entrenches their core mistakes. No one likes to be yelled at. When someone holds positions that are inherently wrong, it's your duty to enlighten them, not belittle them. You'll never make a convert by telling them they're wrong...but to convince them you're right is an art form. It comes from believing you're helping them educate themselves. People react well to someone trying to help, even if they think you're trying to "trap" them, a part of their brain will recognize that you're genuinely interested in helping them find some information. I do this sort of thing all the time. It's not difficult to have the patience, when you care about the person you're talking to. EVEN if they're obtuse.

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
17. Do You Call Them "Grasshopper" As Well?
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:15 AM
Sep 2012

Obscure old TV show reference; may be before your time.......

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
16. I was never particularly struck by her intellect
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:04 AM
Sep 2012

But she does have a good radio voice. To each his own.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
27. She is incredibly knowledgable. I learn things from her that
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:14 PM
Sep 2012

I don't get from others. She explains things as well as Rachel.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
19. Hmm, I never listen to talk radio
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:17 AM
Sep 2012

I find it hateful and a rotten source of info. But I understand the need to counter the disease that we call conservatism, so I'm grateful those shows are there.

But your OP may have converted ME-- I'll give her a try

NashvilleLefty

(811 posts)
23. I have always loved this vid
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 04:23 PM
Sep 2012

of Randi vs RW idiot Janet Parshall to the tune of OUTKAST's "Hey Ya". All the C-SPAN host can do is just look at the camera.

You gotta watch it!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5058269

Crap! Looks like the links are dead. I'm still looking for a copy but it looks like it may have been removed.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
28. Love your post, byronius. I could read a lot more!
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:17 PM
Sep 2012

Where can we find the docUmentary by Alexandra Pelosi?

Booster

(10,021 posts)
30. Randi is the only radio talk show I listen to. She's the only one who really knows what she's
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:11 PM
Sep 2012

talking about and if she doesn't know she researches it then passes the info on. Randi's da bomb. Good writing and good post. Thanks for giving Randi a shout out - she's not appreciated enough.

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
31. I had an epiphany today.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:32 PM
Sep 2012

Introduce, previously unconsidered, perspective, give it time to simmer and you can watch people change.

There is a constant diet of simple ideas, true or more likely not true, being fed to those who have more difficulty with empathetic perspective. It's not that they do not have the capacity for empathy and therefore empathetic social response, it is that they lack perspective, which in a person of a different sort, would be the impetus to immediately counter the angry fearful and hateful force fed diet.

I really loved this OP.

kppenguin

(1 post)
35. I worship at the altar of Randi Rhodes!
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 01:34 PM
Sep 2012

I have been listening to Randi since the Air America days and I have nothing but total respect and awe for her. The one thing that impresses me the most about her is that she will always tell her audience, "Don't take my word for it. Look it up for yourself." She is not propagandizing her audience, but opening up their minds to not take whatever they are hearing in the media as the gospel truth, but to put some time and effort into learning the truth. And her daily homework only proves to us that she is a consummate researcher and has the facts to back up what she is saying.

 

ConnorMarc

(653 posts)
36. WoW!!! Absolutely Superb Analysis of The Randi
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 02:49 PM
Nov 2012

I love, love, LOVE her.

3PM EST to 6PM EST is almost sacred time...almost.

You definitely have a gift with words my brother...I'm floored.

Randi needs to see this...so I'm going to share this on Twitter.

BRAVO!!

Long live Randi Rhodes!!

Love you baby!!

liberalla

(9,238 posts)
38. The news of Randi's show being revived/renewed/uncanceled
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 10:51 AM
Nov 2013

or whatever you want to call it, brought you and this tribute you wrote for her to my mind. You must be happy with the news too, right?

I was dreading the 2014 election year without her passionate political mind, instinctual insight and rousing commentary. Thankfully, I can look forward to it now.

[font size=5]TURN UP YOUR MIND[/font]


... and bounce your boobies is back.




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