I will refrain from attacking Obama until the election

[edhopper]

There is a lot Obama has done that is good and some things that he hasn't done or where he is just dead wrong. And I see no problem in coming here and talking about where he has fallen short. This is a political discussion site, not a pep rally.

But the stakes are too high now, the differences between the two candidates too stark. I frankly don't know if this country can survive a Romney Presidency. Bush screwed up the strong country Clinton gave him, but then did so much damage, which we are far from over, that Romney would be a disaster. It's like pneumonia, if you are healthy it's one thing, but if you are already infirmed, well... but I digress.

There will be plenty of time to chide President Obama post election, but it is crucial that there is a President Obama.
So I am holding back all negative comments on him and concentrating on winning this one.


This is just me, I am not telling others what to do.

[lamp_shade]

1. Well bless your l'il heart. n/t

[edhopper]

2. Thank you

I appreciate the kind thoughts.

[geckosfeet]

3. Is you arm ok? Reaching over your shoulder like that can be dangerous.

[edhopper]

5. Here's the thing

I think it would be a good thing if others did this as well.
But i know if I even suggested that they might think about it i would be slammed for "telling others what to do."
So I made the post personal hoping people who read it might consider it a good idea. Or not, it would be up to them.

Of course it has been misinterpreted by two replies now as me blowing my own horn.

My lesson, you can't win either way because too many people here just want to jump on the slightest perceived mistake.

[geckosfeet]

16. You are gonna do what you are gonna do.

My feeling is that if you have something to say, say it. I do not see any grace earned by waiting until after labor day, halloween, the election, thanksgiving or the new year. For all you know you could be dead in a week.

You win by doing what you want to do for your own reasons, and not letting your behavior be dictated by some one elses sense of morality.

If you want to wait, wait. Not many folks care. I guess what irks me is that I get the sense that I should be appreciative of your effort to restrain yourself.

Well ok. You get brownie points.

[edhopper]

23. But you do see that was not my intent.

I am not doing anything worthy of praise, though some have interpreted that that is what I want. I really don't care what anyone here thinks of me, They don't know who I am. But I hope they can address my idea.
Think of it as an illustrative example.
You must admit, if I came here and posted, "You know what I think we should do.." I would get lambasted.

[jsr]

4. I agree

There are a few things about Obama that I am profoundly displeased with. But America cannot afford to have a Romney-Ryan presidency. Period.

[edhopper]

6. Thank you for

understanding the point of my post. (see #1 and #3 for those who do not)

[ZM90]

7. I agree there's some greviences I have with Obama too but America cannot afford a Romney/Ryan

presidency. That very presidency would finish the job Bush II started, the job of destroying America.

[nevergiveup]

8. "it is crucial that there is a President Obama"

Yes it is! We can have a knock down drag out debate on particular issues after the election. We absolutely must GOTV and rally around the troops 100% for the next couple of months. The survival of our country depends on it. I appreciate your post.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. It is the responsibility of the people in a democracy to hold public servants accountable.

Even Democrats. Even in an election year. Even if they're "not as bad".

[edhopper]

11. I don't disagree

For me though. it is paramount that we hold President Obama accountable in January, and not President Romney.
A small time out seems appropriate.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. The ends justify the means? For the greater good? Sacrifice few to save many?

These are the very kind of rationalizations used to justify our loss of liberty, the use of drones, the imprisonment of whistleblowers and other misdeeds of this administration. We should only stop criticizing them when they stop.

[edhopper]

15. Wow

I think that is a big over reaction to a modest, very temporary proposal.
But you are entitled, so thanks for the input.

For me what you are saying will only give aid to the Republicans and further move people in the middle to vote against Obama or not vote at all. I just think defeating Romney is more important than attacking Obama for the next two months.

But you sound like you don't really support Obama anyway.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. I support democracy even in an election year.

We, the people, are the watchdogs. If we fail in our job to keep the politicians governing us in line we get corrupt government. As for my vote, I have the archaic notion that it belongs to me not, to any particular party or particular politician. I've been a Democrat since 1965 and done my share of nose holding but it's still my vote to cast as I please.

[magical thyme]

20. We don't need to wait until January

We can start letting him know on November 8th, after he's re-elected, that we gave him 4 more years based on our expectation that he learned (the appropriate lessons) from his early mistakes.

Far too many lives are on the brink to pause to celebrate.

Lame duck congress or not, he can start setting the stage immediately for his renewed Presidency of "No More Mr. Nice Guy."

[edhopper]

21. I meant

in January we will either have Obama or Romney.
But if reelected, yes, we can let him know right away how we feel.
Let's just make sure he is in Office in January.

[Comrade_McKenzie]

10. I'm right there with you and I am way farther to left than the President. nt

[edhopper]

12. Most of us are

[SidDithers]

13. DU rec...nt

Sid

[demosincebirth]

18. Aww, what lil' pet project of yours didn't he address since his election?

[dawg]

19. I think reasonable criticism is still appropriate.

I'm not much in the mood to criticize the President right now, but he is still saying things that I profoundly disagree with.

But the gulf between Obama and Romney is huge. And the stakes are too high not to support the President.

In a sense, I think it might be constructive to continue to criticize the President on this message board so long as the criticism acknowledges the importance of keeping Romney out of the White House. People who are perceived as Obama cheerleaders will never be able to convince disgruntled liberals to get out and vote. But fellow "radical leftists" might be able to talk them into it.