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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Pelosi doing the right thing? Perhaps it is simple to understand.
1. Strongly worded warning
2. More strongly worded warning
3. Action on impeachment..
4. Vote on impeachment..
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Make sure everyone knows about number 1 and 2. then 3 and if necessary 4. Two paragraphs below are my opinion. I have no proof at all, as Sgt Schultz say, "I know nothing"...But I do believe Nancy and Adam are getting help on what to do, from the... very best minds around. (3 more short paragraphs )
..Yes, I would like it all done now, but that is not possible. Adam has come out with a strong statement, and now Nancy. If the above takes a couple of months. Well?? Give the other side a chance because this is extremely serious. Yes, I want it done now. But, Nancy is not working alone. I believe Nancy is getting the best help possible from the best around. The absolute best.!!!
... Oh, you don't know about it? Well it ain't public information. Just for a moment who are the ...absolute best minds around? Well you think about it. Democrats have "the best." The "best" are smart, loyal, experienced far beyond what people think, and they will help when necessary. One of "the best" has a wife who is also "the best". And that lady is indeed far better than Mr. Trump.
... Just because our "very best" are not on the public scene with Adam and Nancy in this very serious public argument, doesn't mean they are not being consulted to get through this mess. Our "best" will be there and are there behind the scenes ...in my opinion. Oh, one more idea..."Our very best".....have been through living hell and and know what to do. They are there to help win this ugly battle with Trump. And they are the "very best" living experienced people around..
msongs
(67,394 posts)Stuart G
(38,414 posts)mwooldri
(10,302 posts)Could always ramp it up to balsa wood if needs be I suppose....
randr
(12,409 posts)We are witness to a death by a hundred self inflicted wounds. Enjoy the popcorn.
dalton99a
(81,440 posts)It's just a matter of time
dchill
(38,468 posts)Gonna be death by a thousand cuts. Ten thousand?
EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)She said this shortly before the ACA vote - after more than a year of hearings, drafting and marking up legislation, negotiation, town hall meetings, etc. and she was working hand-in-hand with the President of the United States, HHS and the rest of the executive branch to carry out the President's top priority.
She didn't start out in January of 2009 insisting and demanding and forcing her entire caucus to support Obamacare as is. Instead, she spent the next year allowing her Members to find their way to the right vote.
And when she got to that point, THAT's when the whip operation went into di force and that's when she pulled out all the stopa. At that point, she wasn't trying to convince a hundred or so Members of her caucus to change their minds and go against what their constituents wanted. She and the White House and their teams were trying to push and pull the last few Members over the finish line.
This is not comparable in any way.
A better comparison would be if, after the hearings, a recommendation of Articles of Impeachment was referred to the floor and she was close to 218 but a few votes short. That would be the time to start cracking heads, as she did in the home stretch of the ACA passage.
EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)and other members of the House Democratic caucus where the Speaker of the House stands on this.
But I'm still waiting for someone to explain why, if just a word from Pelosi could sway 100 numbers to vote the way she tells them but she's opposed to impeachment, the House Judiciary Committee is moving forward with an impeachment inquiry and hearings over her objections.
Either she's not as all powerful as some of you seem to think or she's not opposed to impeachment. You can't have it both ways
EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)ArcticFox
(1,249 posts)Interestingly, I've had posts removed for saying this. Many democratic moderates are blind in my opinion
dweller
(23,626 posts)of subtle positivity...
✌🏼
kentuck
(111,078 posts)Very seriously.
Too bad for Donald.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)That's why she's been proceeding very carefully
kentuck
(111,078 posts)I think she takes these battles with Donald Trump very personal and very seriously.
But, I think there is a limit to her patience.
JI7
(89,244 posts)she isn't going to hold a vote unless she knows it will pass.
many flipped district members were reluctant to support her and many ran for office saying they would support someone else for speaker.
so her pushing them on it publicly will have the opposite effect.
they need their constituents to push them on it . their constituents need to support it.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)This has to be bottom up, not top down.
cstanleytech
(26,280 posts)it heads to the Senate where Moscow Mitch would deal with it and I guarantee you he would make sure it would not get enough support to convict Trump.
Then after that the Repugnant spin machine would kick in and by the time the elections are here the whole impeachment thing will not have nearly as big a negative impact on the Repugnants as we need it to have.
JohnnyRingo
(18,624 posts)People must think democrats are in hibernation. Things are moving along on a carefully plotted course for maximum return.
dchill
(38,468 posts)Dems won't impeach, counting on the 2020 election...
Which the Russo-Republicans will steal. Again. And nothing will be done about it. Again. The Constitution will be amended to allow a Trump dynasty. The Earth will become the biggest cinder the earth has ever known.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)dchill
(38,468 posts)The cover-up is no longer worse than the crime. It's better.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts):shrug
dchill
(38,468 posts)pbmus
(12,422 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)She could cost us our democracy if this criminal in the White House manages to steal another election.
He needs to be IMPEACHED NOW - whether the GOP Senate removes him or not!!
Let the blood be on their hands!!
This behavior cannot be tolerated!!!
dem4decades
(11,282 posts)I guess i have to have faith because i think Norm is awesome. I hope i'm not wrong.